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| With Mcguire landing in England soon do you think he will choose a new captain? new ideas new techniques Mcguire and Wane may opt to choose a new captain? if so who would your choice be.
Personally mine would be George Carmont may not have all the exsperiance in the world but at the grand old age of 31 he has the maturity and the respect from all of the younger players to look upto.
With either Lockers or Leuluai taking the vice captaincy.
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| I think Lockers will remain captain and rightfully so, I don't know who the vice captain is but my vote would go to Sam Tomkins.
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| Quote ="GingerWiganer"With Mcguire landing in England soon do you think he will choose a new captain? new ideas new techniques Mcguire and Wane may opt to choose a new captain? if so who would your choice be.
Personally mine would be George Carmont may not have all the exsperiance in the world but at the grand old age of 31 he has the maturity and the respect from all of the younger players to look upto.
With either Lockers or Leuluai taking the vice captaincy.'"
I'm not sure that replacing Lockers at this stage would be an astute move. It think it's more likely that Maguire will want to have a good look at his team before making such a decision, though no doubt Shaun Wane will already have marked his cards on likely candidates.
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| We don't need a new captain. Vice captain could be Sam or Phelps I reckon. Both seem fired up when it's important.
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| Quote ="piemandan"We don't need a new captain. Vice captain could be Sam or Phelps I reckon. Both seem fired up when it's important.'" IMO both are too young i'd give it paaaat or carmont
It's vice what i'm on about stick with locky
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| Quote ="king warrior"IMO both are too young i'd give it paaaat or carmont
It's vice what i'm on about stick with locky'"
thers only a few months betwwen pat and lockers anyway. 27 isn't really young
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| stick with Locky i say surely taking the captians role of somebody who has been outstanding this years will only make there head go down.
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| Lockers is our captain and should continue in the role for the forseeable future imo.
He's grown in the role over the years and the job is becoming easier all the time for him as he gets more experience and more and more young lads come into the team who look upto him as a role model.
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| I can't see any reason to take the captaincy off Lockers?
In regards to the vice captaincy I can see no reason to look any further than Tommy L.
He’s talented, young and already well respected. Add to that he’s played in some big games in the past and seems to wear his heart on his sleeve he’d be the perfect candidate.
Maybe the added experience and responsibility will bring his game on as well as he’s got to start marshalling from HB more.
I agree that it would be too much for Sam next season. After all let’s not forget next season will only be Sam’s 2nd in SL and his first starting as Wigan’s No.6. Let his game develop a little more first as it’s not like we are in a massive rush. If he gets the captaincy in 4 years time he’ll still only be 24 then!
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| If Lockers retires around 32/33 years of age Sam will be in his prime at 26/27 ish and will be in a perfect position to take the captaincy on.
It's long term planning like that the club needs.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If Lockers retires around 32/33 years of age Sam will be in his prime at 26/27 ish and will be in a perfect position to take the captaincy on.
It's long term planning like that the club needs.'"
Defiantly.
The captaincy is an important role at the club but the supporting players have to help as well. We are in a lucky situation that we've got a long term captain sorted now lets build a supporting network round him.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Defiantly.
The captaincy is an important role at the club but the supporting players have to help as well. We are in a lucky situation that we've got a long term captain sorted now lets build a supporting network round him.'"
Thats it isn't it.........you have a captain in name but in reality you need numerous leaders within your side who are willing to put their hand up and lead the way.
Leeds have them in Sinfield, Peacock, McGuire, JJB etc and Saints have them in Cunningham, Wellens, Graham etc.
We now look to be building a side with leades in there like Lockers, Bailey(if he stays), Carmont and Sam Tomkins.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Thats it isn't it.........you have a captain in name but in reality you need numerous leaders within your side who are willing to put their hand up and lead the way.
Leeds have them in Sinfield, Peacock, McGuire, JJB etc and Saints have them in Cunningham, Wellens, Graham etc.
We now look to be building a side with leades in there like Lockers, Bailey(if he stays), Carmont and Sam Tomkins.'"
Yep no one guy can do it on their own. All the great captains talk about the supporting guys around them and how it helps.
Even Faz had the likes of Radders, Newton, Craig Smith etc around him to pick on the stuff that he missed.
We’ve still got a quiet team although imo and we need to start encouraging lads like Sam, Joel, Prescott and Phelps to speak up and egg the team on when it’s needed.
I’m sure Graham & Ryan Bailey will help with this next season
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| IF he changes it id give it to Bailey if he stays although i dont see the point in changing things
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| Please, please, please let this not be another Lockers knockers infested off season....
He did a good job last season under difficult circumstances.
He is a lead by example type of leader and his example last season was superb.
Changing our captain should not be our new coach's priority. If our new coach does only two things next season - get the team fit and make sure they work as hard and as are as committed to the cause as Lockers - that will do for me because I think that will allow us to be consistently competitive with the best sides in what is a mediocre SL.
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| Quote ="wiganparkside"thers only a few months betwwen pat and lockers anyway. 27 isn't really young'" I was on about sam and phelps
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| Absolutely no need to change the captain. Tommy/Gleeson should be vice captain.
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| Quote ="Deano G"Please, please, please let this not be another Lockers knockers infested off season....
He did a good job last season under difficult circumstances.
He is a lead by example type of leader and his example last season was superb.
Changing our captain should not be our new coach's priority. If our new coach does only two things next season - get the team fit and make sure they work as hard and as are as committed to the cause as Lockers - that will do for me because I think that will allow us to be consistently competitive with the best sides in what is a mediocre SL.'"
My post is not another one of the many attack on him I am a big big fan of Lockers my post is just merely stating out that with new coaches you get new ideas and techniques maybe Mcguire will want to change the captaincy around. I guess we can only wait and ponder as to what Mcguire will want to change or keep at the club be it Lockers staying as the captain or not.
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| Quote ="AJ"Absolutely no need to change the captain. Tommy/Gleeson should be vice captain.'" I agree
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| Stick with Lockers - he's the best mon for it IMO.
Sam as vice-captain? Don't talk wet. He's just done his first season in full professional RL. Let him adapt to it properly first and foremost before racking even more pressure upon him.
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| Personally I would give it to Leuilali but that's me.
I would also move Lockers to the 2nd row.
I think player and club would benefit.
However, he is likely to stay at 13 and captain imo.
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| I think this thread just highlights the lack of leadership and experience in our squad when people nominate players like Sam Tomkins for captain/vice captain when he is only 20 and has just had his first full season in Super League. Could you imagine Kyle Eastmond or Ryan Hall being talked up as vice captain/captains at their clubs?
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| Quote ="cadoo"I think this thread just highlights the lack of leadership and experience in our squad when people nominate players like Sam Tomkins for captain/vice captain when he is only 20 and has just had his first full season in Super League. Could you imagine Kyle Eastmond or Ryan Hall being talked up as vice captain/captains at their clubs?'"
No way should we burden Sam at this point of his career.
I'm sure MM hasn't even thought about it.
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| Lockers should be captain no doubt.
Very under rated as a leader IMO
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| Worst idea ive ever heard, all the player have full respect to Locky and say how good he is, that coming from ex Aus international Bailey. And what has Tommy done to get the vice captains job if we did get a new captain.
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