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Wk 1 = 1v4, 2v3, 5v8, 6v8 (where 1 = 1st place finishers etc)
and 4 beat 1 and 2 beat 3, and 5 beat 8 and 6 beat 7
Who do 1 and 3 play in week 2?
Does 1 play 6 and 3 play 5, or 1 v 5 and 3 v 6?
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| Is it right that the teams 5th to 8th have to win every game? One loss and you're out?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Is it right that the teams 5th to 8th have to win every game? One loss and you're out?'"
Thats right and rightly so.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Thats right and rightly so.'"
Fully agree.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Fully agree.'"
Teams in 8th should not even have a chance of getting the the grand final, or any game bigger than your average league game.
7th and 8th place could finish the season with more losses than wins
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Teams in 8th should not even have a chance of getting the the grand final, or any game bigger than your average league game.
7th and 8th place could finish the season with more losses than wins
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True, but that's how it is. To be fair 7th or 8th are never going to make it to the final.
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| Quote ="jonnysmith"If.....
Wk 1 = 1v4, 2v3, 5v8, 6v8 (where 1 = 1st place finishers etc)
and 4 beat 1 and 2 beat 3, and 5 beat 8 and 6 beat 7
Who do 1 and 3 play in week 2?
Does 1 play 6 and 3 play 5, or 1 v 5 and 3 v 6?
HELP'"
That's the right answer!
Highest ranked teams in week 2 based on original positions are at home!
However in week 3 , If 1 & 3 progress the 2 x winners from week 1 (4 & 2) would be at home as they earned Home advantage by beating 1&3 in Week 1!
SIMPLES!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"That's the right answer!
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Not according to the Superleague website!
In week 2:
The loser of 1v4 will play the winner of 5v8.
The loser of 2v3 will play the winner of 6v7.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Is it right that the teams 5th to 8th have to win every game? One loss and you're out?'"
If you want 8 teams in the play offs then you end up with systems like this which means sudden death for the team that finished 5th just as for the team that finishes 8th. The only advantage of finishing 5th is a home tie against what is supposedly the weakest team in the top 8.
The five system was much better as with that only one team each week went out and there was a more tangible advantage for each place higher up the league you finished than there is now.
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| Quote ="DaveO"The five system was much better as with that only one team each week went out and there was a more tangible advantage for each place higher up the league you finished than there is now.'"
The top 5 was by far the best format and is missed imo.
The top 8 wont provide the drama imo.
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| Whose LMS?
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| Quote ="Richards is superman!"Whose LMS?'"
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| I'd like to see this system
Week 1:
Game 1 - 2nd v 5th
Game 2 - 3rd v 4th
Week 2:
Game 3 - Winner G1 v Winner G2 (highest ranked team at home)
Final:
1st v Winner G3
It means you have to finish highish to have a chance, no one can lose a play off game and still win the trophy, it's a big advantage to finish top, no two teams play twice and it's simple. Sadly it'd mean us travelling to either Saints or Leeds and probably getting knocked straight out but I don't think finishing 5th should give you anything like an easy run.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I'd like to see this system
Week 1:
Game 1 - 2nd v 5th
Game 2 - 3rd v 4th
Week 2:
Game 3 - Winner G1 v Winner G2 (highest ranked team at home)
Final:
1st v Winner G3
It means you have to finish highish to have a chance, no one can lose a play off game and still win the trophy, it's a big advantage to finish top, no two teams play twice and it's simple. Sadly it'd mean us travelling to either Saints or Leeds and probably getting knocked straight out but I don't think finishing 5th should give you anything like an easy run.'"
That makes too much sense for the rfl, too easy and not complicated enough for everyone.
Basically thats why some people see superleague's format as "silly" all this faffing and the team finishing top potentially not getting to the grand final makes the 27 game regular season to an extent irrelevant! Just ask Nobby
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| Quote ="AJ"The top 5 was by far the best format and is missed imo.
The top 8 wont provide the drama imo.'"
it might if they had used the mcintyre system
1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, 3 v 5
4 winners go through, plus the 2 highest ranked losers.
2 highest ranked winners get a bye in week 2, and you have 2 elimination games , with highest ranked getting home advantage.
then at week 3 we have 4 teams left.....teams from bye week have home advantage.......and its straight knock out from there, with winners going to old trafford.
simple as ABC
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I'd like to see this system
Week 1:
Game 1 - 2nd v 5th
Game 2 - 3rd v 4th
Week 2:
Game 3 - Winner G1 v Winner G2 (highest ranked team at home)
Final:
1st v Winner G3
It means you have to finish highish to have a chance, no one can lose a play off game and still win the trophy, it's a big advantage to finish top, no two teams play twice and it's simple. Sadly it'd mean us travelling to either Saints or Leeds and probably getting knocked straight out but I don't think finishing 5th should give you anything like an easy run.'"
TBH i reckon that would make it a disadvantage to finish top.
no game for 3 weeks after seasons finished???
weve seen teams go off the boil just having one week off
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| i still to this day think the team who finishes top should be crowned champions as they have performed for the full season. The playoffs should be a seperate cup competition.
more than likely upset a few people but thats my opinion.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I'd like to see this system
Week 1:
Game 1 - 2nd v 5th
Game 2 - 3rd v 4th
Week 2:
Game 3 - Winner G1 v Winner G2 (highest ranked team at home)
Final:
1st v Winner G3
It means you have to finish highish to have a chance, no one can lose a play off game and still win the trophy, it's a big advantage to finish top, no two teams play twice and it's simple. Sadly it'd mean us travelling to either Saints or Leeds and probably getting knocked straight out but I don't think finishing 5th should give you anything like an easy run.'"
Problem with top 5 is that we have a 14 team league and no relegation.
With 2 rounds of this campaign remaining 12 of the 14 teams still have everything to play for. Had it been top 5 that would effectively be 6 or 7 teams which could lead to a lethargic and boring last few weeks of the season for some.
If we still had relegation I'd go with the 5 but now that we don't I'm happy to give this a try.............and of course we get more games to enjoy!
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"it might if they had used the mcintyre system
1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, 3 v 5
4 winners go through, plus the 2 highest ranked losers.
2 highest ranked winners get a bye in week 2, and you have 2 elimination games , with highest ranked getting home advantage.
then at week 3 we have 4 teams left.....teams from bye week have home advantage.......and its straight knock out from there, with winners going to old trafford.
simple as ABC
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I agree, they should have used the NRL system, but instead we get a pick your opponent system with the announcement on sky sports news....wow
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"TBH i reckon that would make it a disadvantage to finish top.
no game for 3 weeks after seasons finished???
weve seen teams go off the boil just having one week off'"
2 weeks, and yeah I guess you could argue that but I reckon teams would be happy with that much time to concentrate on the final while the opposition are knocking each other to bits.
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| Quote ="mooster"i still to this day think the team who finishes top should be crowned champions as they have performed for the full season. The playoffs should be a seperate cup competition.
more than likely upset a few people but thats my opinion.'"
Totally agree
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| Quote ="mooster"i still to this day think the team who finishes top should be crowned champions as they have performed for the full season. The playoffs should be a seperate cup competition.
more than likely upset a few people but thats my opinion.'"
That can only be out in place if all teams play each other on a home and away basis only and there are none of the extra fixtures.
In the 2008 season for instance Wigan played Saints four times, Leeds three times and Catalan three times (the top three clubs)
This time it has been a little more even with only one extra fixture.
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