..got absoloutly owned tonight.

correct

Aye, O'Carroll will bolster us soon hopefully but long term we need another prop. Paleaaesina's lost form too, he was knocking them down like pins early in the season. He shouldn't step off his right leg when he takes the ball, should just run straight like he used to.

Yep.

Morley, in particular, was immense

T'was pi*s poor.

Fair play to O'Loughlin and McIlorum but as for the rest

awful display.

Maybe this puts to bed any chance of a new deal for Coley. I know it's only one game but Carvell and Morley were head and shoulders above him(and our other props) and they're the type of prop we need to move forward.

Fielden got absoloutly smashed all over the show.

Another thing about Wigan that annoys me is when we are in our own 20 we expect the backs to make all the hard yards?

The backs and O'Loughlin.

All the other forwards stand there with hands on hips.

Coley has been the corner stone of our pack of late, he looked like man playing on emotion tonight trying too hard, it did not work. Fielden was ok still finding his front which is nice. Feka poor by his standards. Prescott i felt was our best Prop. Hock was poor, Hansen was poor and his time is running out. Locky superb.

McIllorum poor. Riddell average.

The truth is we should hve put the game to bed in the first half. Nothing to do with the forwards just Brett Kenny (clueless) in attack.

Were you watching the same game mate?

Take that back, he was dreadful.


spot on

As I said on the Warrington forum, Morley owned our pack on his own tonight. When he came back on he turned the game in their favour. What would we do for a prop like him!?!

fielden was gash, but agree about prescott.

Sometimes its not about the yards its about momentum. Of late Fielden has been finding his front and we have been making yards off the back of it.

Think he played tonight s well as he has in the last few gmes.

He is far from value for money but in my opinion he is doing ok of late.

When asked questions McIllorum failed.

I can see where you are coming from and I think for this season overall you have it spot on however tonight he got absoloutly smashed in the first 20 minutes.

Agree but he generated momentum in my opinion. Coley Feka and Hock let us down tonight in my opinion.

he was better than riddell

Disagree. He was more eye catching than Riddell i give you that.

each to their own

Regarding Hock, I just think that the Warrington outfit knew how to handle him, for a change the opposition got into him early and he never once looked like breaking the line.

Feka was woeful tonight, no yards, no defensive efforts. I witnessed on at least 3 occasions Wire breaking through a gap in our line which Feka should of covered.

Coley I thought tried but it just wasn't good enough, in patches there were glimpses of his recent form but for the rest I can't compliment his game.

TBH I thought Fielden had a good game, agreed he got smashed a few times but he was IMO one of the only few in our team willing to take the ball up and try and make some yardage. His defense was outstanding, especially his kick-chase, him and Lockers were the first two from the majority of our team to lead the defensive line up to Wire.

Prescott did OK but he played with a well beaten pack. He is a good player but was made to look bad a bad player by our dominated forwards.

What puzzled me was Noble chose to replace Fielden with Prescott instead of Feka for Prescott, think it was in the 75th minute. Fielden was showing enthusiasm and giving his all - although it wasn't pretty he did get through some hard work, where as Feka must of been on the field about 5mins and he was blowing out of his ar*e.

Our pack was beaten by a well-drilled, powerful Warrington pack. Simple as, they showed more desire and more courage than our pack - even though Fielden did show some courage throughout the game.

We need a new prop ASAP - Wigan will never win SL with the pack we have, too weak and IMHO too soft.

To be fair to Coley maybe his head wasn't fully in the game. A touch of compassion wouldn't go a miss.

Our pack hasn't been any good since 2004 when we had four big props (O'Connor, Smith, Sculthorpe & Pongia) and Newton as hooker, and despite a final appearence, we hardly set the world alight that year.

Our pack was 2nd best tonight.

Warrington were very quick and solid indefence - which combined with us looking predictable in attack without Smith meant we struggled to make any threats on their line.

I do also think that Thaler was VERY influenced by the home crowd in dishing out penalties which was also a big factor in giving warrington plenty of momentum.

They singled Fielden out last night and he got smashed all over the place - his effort is there, the passion and fire is back but my god does he need an agressive partner to help him dish a bit out too.