The truth is we need some new props stu was very poor last night as was coley we only make ground when feka is on we get more go forward from our second rows than our props . did any one notice the spat stu had with Crabtree stu was s h i t i n g him self the lad has total lost all confidence as long as we keep playing behind a beaten pack this will happen week in week out

coley is very poor dose not play to his weight trundles up and is tackled 1st time every time

stu is a spent force no one fears him anymore and his confidence is total gone time for him to move on

feka a very good impact player but that's all he is

the young lads try hard but will always be at a disadvantage against a older bigger more experienced pack

dont hold out any hope for this year think we will make the play offs but not make any real impression just hope we can put things right in the forwards for next year

Prescott was our best prop last night, he made fielden look like a little boy.

Fielden gets beat in every tackle, i used to stick up for him. But last night was just pathetic from him, got beaten in every single drive he made, he may aswell not even be there.

Feka - we just need a coach who knows how to use a player like him, cause god help SL when we find one. Noble took him off after 6 mins in the second half

Why????? Him and Hock are practically our only go forward at the minute, and Feka CAN do more game time but Noble plays to some strange clock that doesnt even make sense.

Coley - His form has picked up since he got dropped but thats definanetly up to the fact he needs a new contract. I say keep him playing fairly well till the end of the season then let some other team put up with his lazy ness next season.

IMO we need 2 new props and get rid of Fielden and Coley if we can. But can only see us getting rid of Coley unless someone is stupid enough to snap Fielden up

We need props that are a whole lot better.

How do the current props compare to the recent past.

O Connor, Craig Smith, Neil Cowie, Quentin Pongia

Sorry but our current crop are not a pactch on those 4.

I reckon Fielden will go to Warrington at the end of the year - they're the oly team left really who are going to offer silly money for a player [carvell, king, higham, morley etc. I don't see him staying on as he will only be offered a reduced contract. Coley will probably leave too for the same reason. Probably end up somewhere like wakey or cas.

Are there any decent props going to be available come the end of the year though?

wouldnt get in our team we have 4 better props and some young lands breaking through.

Feka needs to run onto the ball from deeper, this season he has been getting it after a run up of 2 yards!

Fielden is a tart, end of, all he needed do was spark Crabtree out, he would have had a five second scuffle at most and the confidence would be back in him, instead he squatted down on the floor and had a turd in his shorts.

Coley didnt do too bad last night, he needs run it in harder and straighter though!

Prescott did well.

Apparently the roosters want to offload Willie Mason at the end of the year, interested ?

Rather have O'Meley to do the hard yacka! Mason wont come over here yet, he got a rep career still going.

Prescott was the best prop out there last night imo. He makes hard yards in every drive almost. Defiantly got a good future in front of him if he can come over his injuries.

with regard to the thread title... no shiiiiiit sherlock

I am worried about Feka - he seems to have put back on all the weight that he lost at the end of last season.

Not only this but sides now know that he is the only prop who goes forward in the Wigan side and can easily target him - yet we continue to make it easier for them by having no one running thru the hole alongside him.

Prescott was fantastic last night.
We are very lucky that as one goes (O'carroll) another young lad can take his place (Prescott).
In Paul Prescott and Eamon O'carroll we have 2 very bright props for the future.
Andy Coley was very good last night. Kicked on from the Salford performance. I have to confess I was impressed. He needs to remain consistent in his performances till the end of the season to have any chance of a contract extension.
Stuart Fielden just doesn't give us enough go forward. Coley and Prescott were working hard, Fielden just wanted a fight with Crabtree.
Feka was good in patches but we need to use him a lot better. We need him to run onto every ball, sometimes we just give it him when he is standing still. Why we don't have a ploy where close to the line we let him have a run after taking a few yards back I don't know.

Fielden is contracted to Wigan until the end of 2010 I believe.

shame

drop him and bring lee mossop in.

The irony is against Barrow Noble probably will.

no, the irony is that he'll bring mossop in to give fielden a rest for the saints game

Which is what I was getting at

great minds and all that

I'd drop Fielden, for the Saints game. He's just gonna get owned, rather have a young wiganer with passion, probably be more effective.

Mossop isn't a Wiganer.
He come from Cumbria.

And? I'm not a Wiganer, never lived there, but cut me and I bleed Cherry and White.

Fielden and Coley out

Luke Bailey and Andy Lynch in

my team for barrow

Richards; Roberts, Pryce, Carmont, Ainscough; S Tomkins, Leuluai; Mossop, Riddell, Prescott, O'Loughlin, Hansen, J Tomkins

Thought he looked scared to be honest.