We have no idea in attack.

5 drives and a kick. That is it.

Not helped tonight by perhaps the most inept referee I have seen this season, but still we dont help ourselves allowing countless knock ons and silly penalties. I think we knocked on 3 times on the second tackle after being awarded penalties in good field position.



No doubt we will smash Barrow and all will be well again

Spot on comment that, we played in the hudds hands lock stock & barrell,
very rarely did the wingers see the ball(Roberts once for the try)
We have the top scorer in super league but he never got a pass

Is it any wonder the crowds are going down playing the sort of rugby that was offered up tonight

Rant over

Feel free to rant

Feel the same myself.

After having just shelled out a small fortune to watch us in France I am wondering why I bother after tonights shambles.

What was the attendance?

11ish I think

Same tactics worked for Huddersfield though.

It was hardly the weather to be chucking it about in tonight and of the two teams I would say we were the more adventurous.

Thats assuming that we can actually complete a full-set, without dropping the ball / knocking-on / throwing a wayward pass, of course!
More like 'Wigan - Home of the 2 drives and a scrum', these days.

Woeful 11,600. Fan's have realised that we're being bullied on our own ground every game and have started to vote with their feet.

A good win tonight would have secured a sell out v Stains, now we'll struggle to sell 20K.

So we failed to play the conditions?

As i said i am not in a position to comment on the performance but from what i have heard Brown got it right and picked up the win, Noble got it wrong and we all know where that story ends.

I would agree with that. Hudds came with a game plan to spoil at the play the ball and they did it well. They were lying on and keeping a hand on the ball and generally slowing it down. I am not blaming them for that, it is up to the ref to be firm but if he isn't then you get away with what you can.

Give it a rest

five drives an a kick sounds like salfords game plan every game.... or 3 drives and a knock on ....

The main difference was the kicking game - far better than us in both short and long range kicks.

Aside from that, although its tempting to rip into Wigan again after another diasppointing result, I personally didn't feel they were far away from Hudds in performance or effort.

The late two scores give the scoreline a very flattering look.

We both played similar tactics really. That was my point.

I'd say despite the scoreline (the 2 late tries flattered them) we were the better team for the most part. The tries we conceded were soft whereas we had to create the openings to score ours.

The point I'm making is that people are spouting out the old "5 drives and a kick cost us" when in reality it's our defence they should be looking at. Huddersfield lied on at the tackle that little bit longer allowing their defence to be set and left very few gaps for Wigan to exploit. Wigan should have recognised the ref was letting them get away with it and followed suit.

Actually tonight Wigan were 2 drives and a knock on

but you got my original point

The sad thing is your bang on

Luke Robinson got sin binned and we never passed the ball to the wingers ONCE ! We still tried driving it up the middle.

They were a man short for heavens sake

Lets be honest about it we were very poor in attack.(down the middle nearly all the time)

Funny I thought Roberts scored



How many passes went out to the Hudds wingers tonight?

The worrying thing for me is that we have been beaten tonight by a side who had to do nothing special to win it. It looked liked two average sides just going through the motions.

One issue for Wigan is that with ball in hand we created very little and took several wrong options, another is that Huddersfield got into our half on probably 4 occasions in the second half and came up with two tries - our defence simply can't handle pressure.

There seems to be 2 camps regards Noble the performance camp, which i am in and who criticise Noble and the results camp where most of the Noble supporters stand.

At the moment not sure how the results camp can have a leg to stand on, other than to hang on to the frail hope we win a few play off games and still in real terms are no closer to winning anything for another year.

Hmm maybe you are right, not sure if Robbo was off then.

My alzheimers is giving me gip



But we should have capitalised on it more in my opinion.

They didn't have to get the ball to the wings because they were winning for most of the game so all they had to do was concerntrate on winning the forward battle (which they did comfortably)

Why you making this out to be an argument between the pro Nobby and anti Nobby brigade. I'm just calling it as I see it.

People are saying our tactics were inferior but Huddersfield used pretty much the same tactics. I'd say we were dominant for most of the game in terms of field position but a couple of bad decision making from individuals cost as try scoring opportunitites.

If Richards kicks his kicks we're 12-10 up and would probably see out the game. It was a fine margin between victory and defeat tonight. It was nowhere near like the humiliation of last year and the scoreline flatters them IMO.

when shaun wane appeared in bar beforehand to announce team he said the boys have been working all week on playing on the outisde shoulder cos hudds are too big up the middle...

really? did the rain mean the players forgot the gameplan/weeks training or does shaun know more about rugby then nobby?