Mathers, Phelps, Riddell, Bailey all may be out so I would go for ..

1. Richards
2. Ainscough
3. Goulding
4. Carmont
5. Roberts
6. S Tomkins
7. Smith
8. Fielden
9. Leuluai
10. O'Carroll
11. Hansen
12. O'Loughlin
13. J Tomkins

14. Feka
15. Prescott
16. Hock
17. McIlorum

However I know this very unlikely to be the side as Coley will probably return in place of Prescott, Sam will be on the bench if at all and Lockers will more than likely play at Loose

Thoughts?

Amos
Phelps/Ainscough
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
O'Loughlin
Smith
Fielden
Tommy
O'Carroll
Hansen
Bailey/Hock
Joel

Prescott
Feka
McIllorum/Sam
Hock/Mossop

We need to give Riddell time to get fit. O'Loughlin @ 6 isn't perfect but we need to start this game well and Tommy is outstanding at 9.

I expect Bailey to be fit, it Phelps isn't then Ainscough comes in.

If Riddell is out then either Tommy has to play 80 minutes at 9 or Tomkins will come in I assume.

Roberts
Ainscough
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Tomkins
Smith
Fielden
Tommy
O'Carroll
Hansen
Tomkins
Lockers

Hock
Feka
Prescott
McIlorum

Just go for it with the youngsters, thats 10 of the 17 from our academy, and its still a strong team, imo its stronger than what we played yesterday - gets rid of the deadwood like bailey and phelps.

To call them deadwood is simpily going over the top because they have aussie accents.

Phelps is better than Goudling, swap the accents around and nobody would care that Phelps was picked ahead of him.

If people didnt think they knew what Bailey earned he wouldnt be a target either.

I agree with that but i also think he should be our 5th choice back rower behind Hock,Lockers, Tomkins and Hansen.

Phelps is not better than goulding.

What does Bailey offer that Hansen, Hock, O'Loughlin, Tomkins, Mossop, Farrell, or Flanagan dont?

I'd also add Coley to the deadwood list and he doesnt have an Australian accent.

what gets me is that noble knew riddell and bailey weren't match fit, yet he still played them!

Richards, Roberts, Goulding, Carmont, Ainscough, Smith, Leuluai, Fielden, McIlorum, Coley, O'Loughlin, Hock, J Tomkins.
Feka, Prescott, O'Carroll & S Tomkins.

That's assuming that Bailey nor Riddell are not fit next week and Smith is. I wouldn't pick Phelps even if he was and Coley must realise that Castleford for him is a chance to put a bad match behind him and come up with a good performace. Lockers is more suited to the 2nd row and Joel could do with a start at 13.

Yes he is, he is quicker, can pass better and finish a move. As for defence, both are poor



To compare Mossop, Farrell or Flanagan is silly.

He offers exactly the same as Hansen. Hock & Locky are different kinds of players.

I think hes going to be reluctant to play Sam Tomkins but IMO I do not see why he cannot play him off the bench at home against a team like Cas. Its ideal for him IMO especially when we are carrying a few knocks.

It all depends if Riddell is injured. McIlorum will probably retain his place.

Bailey doesn't offer anything compared to Hansen.

We will have to agree to disagree with Goulding/Phelps cause i think Gouldings defence has improved alot since 2007. Goulding is an excellent finisher and once he gets over his 'greed' of the ball - which he will, he will learn he is only young, his winger will see more ball also. I remember an Interview with barrett in his first year and he spoke very highly of Goulding.

As for Bailey offers the same as hansen

Hansen is miles better in attack - he actually runs onto the ball at speed, makes more tackles and scores more trys.

richards
roberts
carmont
goulding
ainscough
s.tomkins
smith
fielden
leuluai
ocarroll
hansen
tomkins
oloughlin

feka
hock
prescott
mcillorum

Long distance glasses on again I see.
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FB 2 Amos Roberts
RW 5 Pat Richards (k)
RC 3 Darrell Goulding
LC 4 George Carmont
LW 21 Cameron Phelps
SO 6 Tim Smith
SH 7 Thomas Leuluai
P 8 Stuart Fielden
H 9 Mark Riddell/17 Michael McIllorum
P 23 Eamon O'Carroll
SR 12 Phil Bailey/16 Harrison Hansen
SR 13 Sean O'Loughlin (c)
LF 14 Joel Tomkins
S 10 Iafeta Paleaaesina
S 11 Gareth Hock
S 16 Harrison Hansen/19 Paul Prescott
S 17 Michael McIllorum/25 Sam Tomkins

Phelps, Roberts and Richards all picked up knocks against Hull. If only one is injured I'd bring in Ainscough on the wing, and move Richards to full back if neccessary.

If two are injured I'd bring in Ainscough and Pryce on the wings, and move Richards to full back if neccessary, unless the two injuries are Roberts and Richards, in which case I'd use Ainscough on the wing and Vievers at full back.

If all three are injured I'd have Vievers at full back with Pryce and Ainscough on the wings. That was a bit complicated but I hope it made sense.

Vievers is nowhere near ready for first team rugby.

I'd go with:

Richards
Roberts
Carmont
Bailey
Ainscough
Smith
Tommy
Fielden
Piggy
Prescott
Hansen
Locky
Tomkins

Subs

Feka
Hock
Eamonn
S. Tomkins

Probably won't happen. Want to see Ainscough given a go. Not a big fan of Goulding or Phelps or Bailey for that matter but think he would give Ainscough some protection.

That's shockingly harsh, Bailey is a very good player.

Phelps although no world beater is still better than the alternatives currently available within on squad.

Based on what???

Richards
Roberts
Goulding
Carmont
Pryce
STomkins
Smith
Fielden
Leuluei
Prescott
Hansen
JTomkins
O'Loughlin

Hock
Feka
O Carroll
Riddell/McIlorum

his form for cronulla

exactly, hes done fook all since he got here!! oh except be good in defence - yet he is keeping hansen from a starting spot who is better in defence and attack.

didn't hansen look good in the world cup? looking forward to the next one already!