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| Only 4 days until you visit us next Friday, should be a good game as he have started pretty well (despite getting beat last week) and you have won 3/3 (Even though not playing your best with injuries etc).
Should be some god match ups, particularly in the backrow and in the centres.
Hopefully our forwards will get on top and lay the platform and we can get the two points, but we need to tighten up our defence outwide with your threats and pace.
Due a win against you, as haven't beat you since 2009? (If you don't count the game after the cup final).
Any players back from injury or will it be the same 17 as Salford?
Safe journey over.
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| I suspect this might be the game when we get exposed somewhat.
Charnley might come back in although I personally wouldnt drop Gildart.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I suspect this might be the game when we get exposed somewhat.
Charnley might come back in although I personally wouldnt drop Gildart.'"
Yeah. I don't think too many of us are looking forward to this one.
Up until now we've clung to the straw that 'playing badly and still winning is a good sign'. However, if we can win this one it will prove that we can mix it with the better teams and haven't just been flattering to deceive.
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| I fully expect a tonking
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| Hull just lost to Cas. The same Cas who have beaten Wakey (big deal) and drew with Hull KR (oh dear) in their previous two. So there's no form guide there. Hull beat Salford at home as we did and had a good win in France.
We have a good record in Hull. I suspect that they have more reason to fear this game than we do. A loss for them will take off the early season shine and the fans will turn on Radford again. A loss for us will give us a 3-1 record. I for one, will be more than happy with a start like that. A 4-0 start would be very nice indeed.
I expect a tougher game than the last few seasons, but nothing to fear really. Whilst our attack is misfiring - our defence has been very good. Tierney has confounded the critics (including me) and it's good to know that Wane has called it right yet again on a young player.
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| Worst thing that could have happened to us was Hull getting beat as we certainly won't catch them on an off night this week. They'll be fired up to get back to winning ways.
We're going to need to be much improved to get close. If we play as we've played to date it could get a little messy because this is definitely our toughest test.
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| i reckon it'll be an excellent game. Sadly Hull is way out of reach for me.
I watched the full Salford game on Wigan TV yesterday, and although I wouldn't quibble with the description of our attack as 'misfiring'. we did manage to string a few decent attacks together and scored three good tries. Defence generally wasn't bad, but they did score one try by running through a Michael Morgan-sized hole. As NK says, we'll need to be better.
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| tough game for us, always seem to be when wigan come to the KC
the loss to cas hopefully will give us a kick up the backside against complacency, we played poor yet could still have won the game in the last two minutes
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Yeah. I don't think too many of us are looking forward to this one.
Up until now we've clung to the straw that 'playing badly and still winning is a good sign'. '"
At least you lot have got a straw. And it is a sight better than playing badly and losing three straight.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"At least you lot have got a straw. And it is a sight better than playing badly and losing three straight.'"
Absolutely no-one is writing any team off, let alone Leeds, after just three games. However the days of winning Super League from fifth have thankfully passed. Your next two games against the Giants and Wigan need to see some improvement - otherwise fourth place could start to look tricky.
Might be worth an investment at the bookies though as Leeds have drifted out to fourth favourites, and you can get decent odds.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Absolutely no-one is writing any team off, let alone Leeds, after just three games. However the days of winning Super League from fifth have thankfully passed. Your next two games against the Giants and Wigan need to see some improvement - otherwise fourth place could start to look tricky.
Might be worth an investment at the bookies though as Leeds have drifted out to fourth favourites, and you can get decent odds.'"
Us Yorkshire folk don't like parting with our dosh - which is what I think would happen. Trouble we have is that our defence is definitely suspect and although it sounds like we're getting a couple back these are either ones who've been missing a long time (JJB) or who aren't any more familiar with our defensive structures (Falloon) than those who've been struggling to get to grips with them in the first place. And Wigan (certainly) and Hudds (possibly) are gonna be two tough fixtures to drop those players into. I could see us squeaking a narrow win against Hudds but not against yourselves unless there's a big transformation in how we're playing.
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| If Charnley is back we have an opportunity to try something different, I'd like to see Sarginson at stand off to add abit to our attack. Hes not got a kicking game but that is usually down to smith anyway. Williams on the bench to rotate with Powell as hooker.
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| Powell starting at 9 with George on interchange is how we beat Wire away 0-28 last year.
Best performance of the season IMO.
Sam P to do the first 20 mins followed by George. Then Sam P to return from the bench to run the second half.
The 2nd 40 mins at Hudds 2015 Sam Powell played the full half and killed Hudds.
That would be my favourite 9 play and interchange.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Powell starting at 9 with George on interchange is how we beat Wire away 0-28 last year.
Best performance of the season IMO.
Sam P to do the first 20 mins followed by George. Then Sam P to return from the bench to run the second half.
The 2nd 40 mins at Hudds 2015 Sam Powell played the full half and killed Hudds.
That would be my favourite 9 play and interchange.'"
You fail to mention that Wire were crap that night!
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| Improving our passing accuracy, decision making and the timing of off ball running should be the priority. Im not convinced changing our half back combo will improve anything- our core skills simply need to be better.
On the plus side I think our attitude and aggression in defence is much improved compared to the start of previous years. Hoping that we are going heavy on skills sessions in training this week.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"=#FF0000Absolutely no-one is writing any team off, let alone Leeds, after just three games. However the days of winning Super League from fifth have thankfully passed. Your next two games against the Giants and Wigan need to see some improvement - otherwise fourth place could start to look tricky.
Might be worth an investment at the bookies though as Leeds have drifted out to fourth favourites, and you can get decent odds.'"
Strange comment as in your earlier post you seem to dismiss Wakey, Cas, Hull and HKR's chances.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Strange comment as in your earlier post you seem to dismiss Wakey, Cas, Hull and HKR's chances.'"
My apologies. But lets be realistic. I won't be rushing be rushing to Mr Hill or Mr Ladbroke to put my hard earned on any of those. Wigan, Saints, Wire or Leeds on the other hand. Hull might be worth a punt on top 4 I suppose.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"My apologies. But lets be realistic. I won't be rushing be rushing to Mr Hill or Mr Ladbroke to put my hard earned on any of those. Wigan, Saints, Wire or Leeds on the other hand. Hull might be worth a punt on top 4 I suppose.'"
Depending on injuries to key players, I see Cas as dead certs for top 4, at least at the split.
Wigan and Warrington will be the other two.
I think we might see some real surprises in league standings this year.
Makes the league very interesting.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Depending on injuries to key players, I see Cas as dead certs for top 4, at least at the split.
Wigan and Warrington will be the other two.
I think we might see some real surprises in league standings this year.
Makes the league very interesting.'"
It would be good for Super League if you are right. Can't see it with Cas myself. Saints will finish above them. With a fit James Roby they are a different animal from the one that got beat at Salford. They have one of the best props in the league (along with Chris Hill). They've had dreadful luck with injuries over the last few years and that seems to be affecting others at the moment too. I can't see Saints missing top 4.
That leaves Leeds. They have given Cas a 5 point start but with 27 games left that's no worry for a club used to confounding the critics.
I actually backed Wire ante-post. Sandow and Gidley is the best pairing in the comp by a distance. It really may be the year of the Wolf!!!
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| Quote ="Dave K."Depending on injuries to key players, I see Cas as dead certs for top 4, at least at the split.'"
Maybe beyond as well. They were pretty hot in the super 8s last time IIRC. They certainly blew us away at Headingley.
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| Whoever finishes in the top 4 at the end of the season, I hope that the league is more congested when the leagues split. The early signs suggest that it will be and will make the Super 8's far more exciting than last year (when essentially the top 3 was decided even before the Super 8's started and 4th was decided after around 4 games).
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Hull just lost to Cas. The same Cas who have beaten Wakey (big deal) and drew with Hull KR (oh dear) in their previous two. So there's no form guide there. Hull beat Salford at home as we did and had a good win in France.
We have a good record in Hull. I suspect that they have more reason to fear this game than we do. A loss for them will take off the early season shine and the fans will turn on Radford again. A loss for us will give us a 3-1 record. I for one, will be more than happy with a start like that. A 4-0 start would be very nice indeed.
I expect a tougher game than the last few seasons, but nothing to fear really. Whilst our attack is misfiring - our defence has been very good. Tierney has confounded the critics (including me) and it's good to know that Wane has called it right yet again on a young player.'"
We like playing at KC because it very similar to DW in size and surroundings but with the conditions over the last couple of days can see it being a tight game like Catalan. High completion rate and a good kicking game will be key. If Wigan win it will be Matty Smith MOM loves these conditions
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| under soil heating on at the kc, the pitch is totally different to wigans' paddy field, even in this weather it looks like a snooker table, dont expect too much muddy conditions, just rain!
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| "Uglier than Jackie Stallone first thing in the morning".
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| Great win over there, we are certainly grinding them out.
Our +16 points difference considering we're unbeaten says it all! Once we click on attack we will beat most teams.
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