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| Sounds like he is having a total nightmare
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| Did the commentator say he was at stand off for a bit??
Sounds like all of them are having a 'mare tbh
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| Quote ="Batesy"Did the commentator say he was at stand off for a bit??
Sounds like all of them are having a 'mare tbh'"
I think the commentators are having a 'mare aswell
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| Wasn't really involved much. Made one error that led to one of Brough's tries and scored a walk in at the end.
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| His intercept give away was very poor but besides that he was solid enough.
We didn't really attack that much down his side which was suprising given the fact that Carmont was out but it worked going down the left so hey ho.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"His intercept give away was very poor but besides that he was solid enough.
We didn't really attack that much down his side which was suprising given the fact that Carmont was out but it worked going down the left so hey ho.'"
Just shows even when we have a quality player like Carmont out there is alway the quality to step in ala Phelps who sounded like he had a cracker on the Radio.
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| Quote ="Fly Of Carney04"Just shows even when we have a quality player like Carmont out there is alway the quality to step in ala Phelps who sounded like he had a cracker on the Radio.'"
I wouldnt say that Phelps is a quality player, he is an average player who has come in and had very good game.
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| Quote ="Fly Of Carney04"Just shows even when we have a quality player like Carmont out there is alway the quality to step in ala Phelps who sounded like he had a cracker on the Radio.'"
Phelps was excellent again and really looks to be settling in.
He's fast, strong and runs the ball very well but he can also play and provides trys for other people which is great to see. To see him play so well at centre after 2 good preformences at fullback is really encouraging.
If Carmont is back next week then Roberts would make way for me with Phelps going back to fullback.
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| fully agree with nickykiss- phelps to full back with amos to miss out next week. i want to see shaun outside gleeson!
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| Agreed,
We were right to get rid of Gleeson if you ask me
He did nowt today.
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| id keep roberts goin hes sound in defence and looks chuffed bits to have gleeson inside of him, i think hes gonna be a crackin player over the next 2 or 3 years
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"id keep roberts goin hes sound in defence and looks chuffed bits to have gleeson inside of him, i think hes gonna be a crackin player over the next 2 or 3 years'"
In the long run i think Roberts will be a good player for us but at the moment i don't see a place for him next week.
I'd like for us to have that attacking element from fullback in Phelps and we can't leave Richards or Ainscough out so i just don't see a place for him.
Somebody mentioned Phelps to 6 with Leuluai to 9 if Riddell is out and thats the only way i can see Roberts keeping his place.
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| the only downfall to ainscoughs game is his confidence under the high ball, ok hes not the biggest of lads but i think saints will expose him again on saturday if he plays, feel bad for the lad but that will be the only way to keep his confidence up in my opinion, i know it sounds daft sayin if you drop a lad his confidence will go down but if he gets peppered against saints its downhill from there
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"the only downfall to ainscoughs game is his confidence under the high ball, ok hes not the biggest of lads but i think saints will expose him again on saturday if he plays, feel bad for the lad but that will be the only way to keep his confidence up in my opinion, i know it sounds daft sayin if you drop a lad his confidence will go down but if he gets peppered against saints its downhill from there'"
i just think he needs to be protected when the high ball comes in, if thats his downfall then move him out of the way on the 5th tackle and put pat there instead. shaun went fullback towards the end of the game today when the last tackle was coming in.
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| Move him out of the way? We don't want bottlers in our team thanks.
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| Quote ="RB"Move him out of the way? We don't want bottlers in our team thanks.'"
thats not what i am saying at all, if thats his only negative part of the game you move him inside until that part improves - any team would do that, gardner gets protected at saints why cant we do the same
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| When Gleeson gave that interception, he was always going to have a 'nightmare'.
I thought he did ok. In all honesty, I was a bit disappointed with Amos Roberts' pace when Gleeson/Smith put him in space.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"When Gleeson gave that interception, he was always going to have a 'nightmare'.
I thought he did ok. In all honesty, I was a bit disappointed with Amos Roberts' pace when Gleeson/Smith put him in space.'"
The Gleeson nightmare has only arisen from the terrible coverage on BBC Radio Manchester.
Very rarely do they have a good thing to say about Wigan, and this was their little hobby horse yesterday afternoon. In particular Dave Hadfield, who has lost a lot of my respect of late.
As much as they're a bunch of clowns on Sky Sports, at least we don't have to put up with the BBC bitterness.
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| Richards had a worse game than Gleeson. He gave the ball away for the second Wakey try and then made a hash of the clearing kick just prior the the fourth Wakefield try.
If we had cut out the basic errors we would have won that game by 30+ points.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"When Gleeson gave that interception, he was always going to have a 'nightmare'.
I thought he did ok. In all honesty, I was a bit disappointed with Amos Roberts' pace when Gleeson/Smith put him in space.'"
Roberts really does my head in how long it takes him to make up his mind he's actually going to make the run forward.
He got the ball 3 times in the clear within the first halfhour yesterday but it took him that long to actually get going he was collered pretty quickly.
The time he did nearly get away and got ankle tapped he threw the worse pass of the season inside to nobody.
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| Quote ="Steinlager"The Gleeson nightmare has only arisen from the terrible coverage on BBC Radio Manchester.
Very rarely do they have a good thing to say about Wigan, and this was their little hobby horse yesterday afternoon. In particular Dave Hadfield, who has lost a lot of my respect of late.
As much as they're a bunch of clowns on Sky Sports, at least we don't have to put up with the BBC bitterness.'"
One thing is certain, Dave Hadfield is no friend to Wigan and never has been. The rest of the GMR team come over as being exactly what they are: small-time regional journalists who simply can't put their parochial prejudices behind them. The only one who ever seems to give us a fair crack of the whip is Phil Kinsella (think that's his name).
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Richards had a worse game than Gleeson. He gave the ball away for the second Wakey try and then made a hash of the clearing kick just prior the the fourth Wakefield try.
If we had cut out the basic errors we would have won that game by 30+ points.'"
Richards shouldn't have played this or last week, he's quite clearly carrying a knock. We have other options and to me, it seems we are over reliant on his kicking.
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| id love to see ainscough outside gleeson next week. George and Pat had a fantastic partnership last year.
Phelps to full back and give amos a week off. It's important we pick our players on form and amos is just lacking that killer instinct at the minute- saying that, I would take amos over calderwood every day of the week and I think that he will become a fantastic player for us given time.
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"id love to see ainscough outside gleeson next week. George and Pat had a fantastic partnership last year.
Phelps to full back and give amos a week off. It's important we pick our players on form and amos is just lacking that killer instinct at the minute- saying that, I would take amos over calderwood every day of the week and I think that he will become a fantastic player for us given time.'"
If we look at Roberts form in comparison to Richards in his first season it compares very favourably. He hasn't been a nightmare signing by any stretch but looks to be abit unlucky due to circumstances and to me is likely to miss out next week.
I suppose this is the beauty of having a 'squad' for a change. Smith has been dropped, worked on his bad parts and come back a better player.
Roberts will do the same imo.
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| Roberts looks to me to have the beating of a man, but not the confidence to finish it off.
A 50 or 60yarder would do him the world of good. I would let him sit next week out, and go with Phelps at fullback and Ainscough and Richards on the wings.
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