Quote ="Jukesays" Sorry everyone, I cant let this go
1/ LGBTQ/PRODE is is not "aimed at promoting sexuality choice", sexuality is not a choice, it is to promote equality for people of different sexual orientations, without their campaigning over 20/30/40/50 years they may not have that equality IN LAW they have now '"
Just by saying that people cannot choose their sexuality is discriminating in itself. You just admitted they have equality in law so they have the exact equal rights and protections as everybody else in this country.
Quote ="Jukesays"2/ There are laws already in place, not for everything but because of their campaigning most of them, whether individuals obey those laws and discriminate is another matter. The organisation is there to let others who may feel isolated or victimised or whatever know that they arent alone and they should be allowed to be themselves on this matter without discrimination or fear of violence. '"
Thats a Police matter not a RL matter. Do you honestly think the small minority that still discriminate against LGBTQ are going to change because a RL club took up the cause and promoted it? Its like the club holding an anti-theft day and expecting thieves to stop thieving. Regardless, the LGBTQ/Pride issue was not really the focus of my original post, i simply gave my opinion because somebody brought in a direct reply to me and my opinion still stands, i dont think theres any need for a RL club to take it up.
Quote ="Jukesays"3/ BLM is an extremist organisation, Really? I suppose if you either a/ believe the right wing message then fair enough b/identify that a small minority who attach themselves to a group for ulterior motives actually speak for the while organisation then fair enough.
Without being any kind of expert in BLM as an organisation (because it really isnt a centrally organised group, it is a movement of people with the same ideology and 1 common goal using a name to unite) my understanding is that the main organisers are still with the movement and havent disassociated themselves from the movement, if I'm wrong I'm wrong.
You comparing the vast majority of protestors, and not just them but the average person who supports BLM to the EDL is ridiculous. I dont even know where to start.
Using a link to a BLM UK which as already pointed could be anyone up to anything and yes, even for bad reasons, is like me stating that the EDL or any of its England football shirt wearing crew is a spokesperson for the 52% who voted Brexit
As for comparing BLM to Remembrance day, when did I do that?
I asked if you thought that it was ok to have a remembrance day/armed forces day seeing as you dont want political movements to be associated with sport. '"
You dont think calling for the Police to be abolished is extreme? Only right wingers would find abolishing the Police extreme? Are you for real? I have given you the screenshot of the GoFundMe page of the UK arm of BLM and you still refuse to believe it saying it could be anyone. It has near a million quid in its purse and you think it could be 'anyone up to anything'? I did not ever compare the vast majority of protestors to the EDL. I said that BLM as an organisation is the extreme left equivalent of the EDL, they are both equally extreme but on opposire ends of the spectrum. Remembrance day and armed forces day are not political movements, they are to show respect for those that died defending this country and those that are currently serving the country. I dont think you'll find either event promoting any kind of extreme views.
Quote ="Jukesays"I promise to not bring it up if you dont as I am sure 99% of people reading our little interaction are probably bored out of their skin.
You keep your money in your pocket, you keep picking faults wherever and whenever you can with the club.
I'm just heartened that 95% of what I have seen and heard and what other friends and family have told me that theyve seen from people is in support of the club and offering to help in which ever way they can at these times, and not trying to score cheap points. '"
Very well, as ive said countless times, everybody is free to make their own choices on how they spend their money and i am free to make mine and have done based on the club showing support for a movement that wants to abolish the Police and bring about a Marxist revolution in the UK.
Over and out.
