Exactly what I'm saying mate, I agree with every single word you say. You came with a well coached team with rock solid defence and tactics and we could not cope. IMO the difference between the two sides at the moment is the coaches. Nathan Brown tactically outclassed Noble last night.

The thing is - your defence was not that good. Most teams would have killed you with the lying on tactics because they would have got up and tried something different - we stupidly tried to match you. You are right about the coach, but the thing is people on this forum aren't used to losing, because they support wigan, and just because you are used to losing doesn't give you "the divine right" to come on here trying to p!ss us off (ok that last bit was to most Huddersfield fans here to be fair).

its a shame most people cant or wont see the harsh realities but wigan simply arent good enough anymore, no offence but tomkins has been lauded this last few weeks, mainly in by sky i admit, but last night he was shown up i felt sorry for him and ainscough at times.

its nice to see some level headedness for a change instead of the usual bile about cheating refs and dirty hudds etc

TBH i went to this game not bothering if we actually lost because Huddersfield are a very good team this year. Last night they werent.

We should have made them pay for every mistake, every penalty - Hudds discipline was poor last night, and if we had someone in the team who had that spark to create something close to the line on the last tackle (because we were there alot) we would have been the ones 22-8 up. Possibly even more.

But we just had nothing, and thats whats most disappointing. I just hope we dont go on another end of season spree to paper over the cracks, ending up in noble getting another contract because i would rather go through this year with nothing and end up getting a new coach at the end of the season who can get the best out of this team consistantly rather than put up with another 3/4 of a dire season and a happy little fart at the end of the season, which gets us nowhere really.

One thing I was surprised at was Hudds never went back in the dressing room at half time, they carried on with the ball work whilst Wigan had yet another half time bollocking to go with their oranges!

Glad it wasn't me, I was bloody freezing sat watching them!