Interesting use of words in the RFL press release. The Super 8's will "largely determine the make up of Super League and the Championship the following season."

Presumably this just recognises SL will surely have a tougher ground grading etc but......

How am I delighted?
I am ing furious.....disgusted and amazed at the demise as well as the level of acceptance of some fans.....we've just signed a retired player who was average in his day and yet it's being applauded.
Hughes has allowed failure to fester at the club for too long......once the retired player/miner and his mates have bled us dry of the parachute payment, we are ed

Interesting words gutters, level of acceptance, what do you want us to do? Go jump into the fast lane of the m 1 I would have said jump off Richmond bridge but we left the stoop so hey ho.

I will make the point again, god am getting like you now, WE as fans cannot change what has happened, so believe it or not you me everyone else has to accept it, because we are not in the position to change it, apart from watch them or not watch them.

unless you have a master plan AND the way to make it happen

Sure was, it was beyond my comprehension that no-one at the club could see there wasn't enough Props to have ANY chance at all, I assumed that in fairly short order the services of two or three big old ugly props were going to be obtained and this would at least give us a platform to squeeze a few wins from.

My son is 16, and likes cricket & boxing, yet even he has grasped the basic principle that RL games are won (and lost) on the platform created by the Forwards, not enough Forwards = No bloody platform! Excuse me for believing that even the imbeciles appointed by Mr Hughes would see what a non-interested 16 year old could!

As for us "folding", get over yerself! As long as theres fans, theres a club, maybe not a very good club, but a club non the less. You do talk sense most of the time dude, and for the most part you tend to get your facts right, but you gotta get out from under that cloud and try and cheer yersel' up, smile and look on the bright side!

With London being the richest area of England, I'm still not sure how we have been unable throughout these years to find money to get a consortium of millionaires with an interest in RL to invest in the club. Now we've been relegated that is probably a much harder task... but DH can't fund us forever and we really need to be putting the feelers out for rich investors to come on board.

There must be a plot of land somewhere if we could encourage investment that we could purchase and build a stadium on.... I know, I know... it requires capital to do so and also planning consent from LA's... but stranger things have happened.

Anyway, enough dreaming.... we are where we are.....

Do I think we can come back? Yes... I do. But it won't be easy and it probably won't happen in the first year. I've said on other threads all we needed is a squad to finish in the top 4 of the league... but having thought more, the SL in the play structure will always be a massive favourite. Not only are they full time (like a number of championship clubs now are), but the quality of player and their experience will give them a huge advantage.

Playing top tier opposition every week develops the SL team at a faster rate than a championship side (both being full time)... so we'd probably just be in shock at their speed and accuracy when we play the play-off compared to what we'd of experienced throughout the regular season.

Unless we were ruthless with the players and demanded (and achieved) winning each game of the regular season by 50 points (not going to happen), we'd be sat on our backsides in the play off game.

That all said though... a one-off shock can happen and it would take immediate recruitment processes to start for any championship team that is lucky to win the game to get players to keep them in SL.

I'm going to be optimistic... we can do it and come back yes.

drone

Next year depends on the final squad signed, how the coaching team bring them forward and the financial support from the owners. We are still not sure of the final squad but it'll be likely agreed before the end of November which is a bit different to last year and we may be also clear about other aspects. Though grateful for the extra issues, excluding the ground, to be outlined.

We have most of confirmed and as we are playing in an unknown league (to most of us) we really can't say one way or t'other if we will compete.

Coach comes with a reputation of being good and does look quite deflated when talking about hsi current squad, but he may well be confident of what he can achieve with a squad he has assembled next year.

We are full time next year thanks to the parachute payment. 2016 is a whole different matter and Hughes needs to declare his intentions past 2015 because crowds of 500 or so ain't going to finance a competitive team (or satisfy the landlord/partner/host/administration provider)




better than 2013?without a doubt. Enough to get us around the corner and on the road to recovery?........

Drone

What's all this "we" stuff? You're 12,000 miles away slagging off those of us who turn up to watch.
I'm with CrusaderPete and mickyb, we'll still be here in one form or another because we, the fans, the REAL fans, will still be here.
And yes I will continue to watch, because I can, and because I don't need your bloody approval to do so.

Have to say summat before Gf goes off on one its what I have hinted at a few times Gf cannot be denied the label of fan, as he is certainly a fanatic of the club, however he is not a supporter of the club, it's those of us that currently provide actual support by going to watch and paying at the gate that do that

He shoots....he scores.....
From Sunday Evening:

...if you run you might just catch him up so you can "be with him"

And aren't you pleased. How you delight in another fan walking away.
Bye bye Pete, so long. I'm not running anywhere.

Depends how you define fan. I struggle to see how a fan would constantly belittle those who are loyal.

Agree with you on that point, you cannot deny he is a fanatic in regards to the club, how he goes about his business is actually the issue.
We still have the supporters of the club, hopefully we can build a squad that can compete next year and win a few games, maybe the long sufferers who could take no more might start to come back.
It's sport! As has been pointed out on another thread KR were on there haunches not that long ago, Wigan were not always top of the pile, widnes could have been written off a few years back.
anybody remember the film "another bloody sunday" that club is still in existence, all be it a small club.

There is loyalty and then there is lemming like behaviour. I am loyal and will support the team whomever they are playing and no matter who is paying those wages. What I won't do is be a quiet supporter who shrugs and says nothing we do will change anything.....
The club has no place to call home. The club has lite in the way of a development program. The club has few assets that would appeal to a new investor and I believe we are all in agreement that we need a new investor........and as much as I am a fan, If I were a potential investor I'd be looking at a passionate fan base as something I could build on.........not a bunch of 200 or so whom roll up and are just grateful that they have something to do on 13 weekends a year.

But nothing is exactly what you do you pussy

are you 5yrs old


You certainly lie and then try to cover up that lie like a child

There you go again, petty name calling of the supporters.

Oh I'm sorry, do you not approve of how I spend my weekends? Do I not show the correct emotion when I attend a game? Did I not seek your permission before I go to support my team?

Nope...re-read it. I said there is loyalty and then there is lemming like behaviour. Is English not your first language? I am clearly having a pop at the "shrug shoulders" brigade who by their continued happy smiling attendances with no murmur of discontent give Hughes a nice warm fuzzy feeling. Go back and see the positive claptrap that rolled around here after the one and only super delayed fans forum....it's all been shown to be bollox, the lot of it, bot certain people who also attend games lapped it up........it's not petty namecalling of all supporters, just the idiots who have their heads in the sand/who aren't prepared to even register their discontent with the club. Can I make it any clearer for you?


No I don't care what you do at weekends...but neither do you have the right what, where and when to tell me what to post on a public forum.If you don't like it, there's an ignore button, but tell me what to do and I'll respond in kind!

No. Because you spout the same rubbish time and time again. Repeating it won't make it right, or make people agree with you.

Then why do you indulge in petty name calling of anyone who continues to attend matches ("deluded", "lemming", "fanboy", "idiots"icon_wink.gif?

And while we're at it, yes it's a public forum. While you call me names I'll tell what the hell I like, when the hell I like, because contrary to what you seem to think a "public forum" does not restrict everyone else's views while ring-fencing yours.

as I suspected. English isn't your mother tongue because you patently can;'t distinguish between "agree with"
and "clarity". I don't give a flying one if you agree with me......it that clear enough?


Are you French? German perhaps? I ask because I have already explained the difference between the fanboyidiotlemmings and fans.....if I were to post in Swahili would that help you?


ah.....so you do have a soupcon of the mother tongue and therefore understand the meaning of debate. Your view is duly noted and your right to call me names is accepted as a matter of course. Now off and tell someone who cares

Not anytime soon. The only way back is if we get a settled core of a team for a couple of seasons . Probably be too late by then.

Just watched the KR highlights. We were dreadful in every aspect. Followed that with the Leigh v Rochdale game. Leigh have structure, stability and quality players. We will struggle against the top championship sides.

I understand the difference perfectly, clarity is not an issue, I am perfectly clear about what you write on here, I just happen the think it's self-serving rubbish.

No, I understand you perfectly, and your self-promoting diatribes.

More name calling...

...and finished off with thinly disguised banal abuse. All of which just shows up the paucity of your argument and, despite your pretentious claims of articulacy, your limited command of language.

Yes, but that assumes that the team we put out last Saturday will bear any relation to the one that we'll have next season, which, with the number of players being dumped, it won't!