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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Nothing to do with quoting only part of your post. You got your facts wrong and instead of admitting it, you changed the subject from marketing to attendances.'"
No.....I replied to a comment. About the content of the flyers.....as usual, I was right. Not long til we can discuss both championship footsie as well as more massive crowds like today......or am I wrong there too?
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| Quote ="meliferra"I've been trying to find out but so far no joy,.I've already said on twitter that unless the incentive is more than just telling people that there is a game I cant see it having much effect on numbers.'"
Agree wholeheartedly with this.
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Agree wholeheartedly with this.'"
Which is the point I was reaponding to......but some just can't see past their own negativity on here!
Officially the lowest SL crowd for the London team in 19 seasons.........gus must be on a bonus now whilst tone rea and the team will be looking towards the 3rd set if 4 games for that elusive first win.....Leeds castleford and saints will ing murder us
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| Todays game?.........same crap, different ground.
First game I have seen this season and first visit to the Hive. Went to the game with low expectations but hopeful that I would see a team giving their all (as many have suggested).........was not to be, the team is a complete shambles and looked just like every other disappointing team we have had over the last 4-5 seasons or more. I doubt we will win a single SL game this season. I have been a long term supporter, but sorry to say the team/club is a complete embarrassment and it would have been better if we had just slipped away into obscurity at the end of last season.
There should be no doubt about our relegation, the loan players will return to their clubs and once we go down the best of the remaining players will leave.....and that will be that.
The Hive?....it`s ok, but I am not sure I will be going back to watch the current rabble.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"Todays game?.........same crap, different ground.
First game I have seen this season and first visit to the Hive. Went to the game with low expectations but hopeful that I would see a team giving their all (as many have suggested).........was not to be, the team is a complete shambles and looked just like every other disappointing team we have had over the last 4-5 seasons or more. I doubt we will win a single SL game this season. I have been a long term supporter, but sorry to say the team/club is a complete embarrassment and it would have been better if we had just slipped away into obscurity at the end of last season.
There should be no doubt about our relegation, the loan players will return to their clubs and once we go down the best of the remaining players will leave.....and that will be that.
The Hive?....it`s ok, but I am not sure I will be going back to watch the current rabble.'"
No no no, RLLDN says everything is ok! Have faith!
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| That hurt today. Some of the tries were comical. Vea, Cunnngham, Farrar, Solamona, Moore look good players but there is no team defensive structure. The forwards are not big enough to allow the backs the time to play.
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| Sorry guys but i can't see any way you will stay up, a majority of your players just aren't good enough. And believe me i'm one who would like to see a successful team in London. But it is probably rebuild time in the championship. There are a few decent performers in there but overall i can only see 2 or 3 wins at absolute best this year. But if your young players can keep picking up the experience at the top level this year then it will leave you in good stead for the future.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Nothing to do with quoting only part of your post. You got your facts wrong and instead of admitting it, you changed the subject from marketing to attendances.'"
BroncOnIon...point out where I got my facts wrong...here's the ENTIRE conversation for you.....feel free to proffer an apology once you've sobered up
Quote ="meliferra"Interesting that a 10k leaflet drop was done for the area around the hive for tomorrows game.'"
Quote ="jbuzza"With a good offer ?'"
Quote ="gutterfax"Good stuff. Needs to happen for every game for the next 5 years and everyone who takes up the offer needs to have their data collected and their feedback sought. Alas, if the past is an indicator, it will happen once more and the be written off as a bad idea!'"
Quote ="meliferra"I've been trying to find out but so far no joy,.I've already said on twitter that unless the incentive is more than just telling people that there is a game I cant see it having much effect on numbers.'"
Quote ="gutterfax"Sticking posts in the ground and announcing a kick off time is standard marketing practice for the club. You'd hope that they would have given a decent incentive with a monitored call to action if they've spent a grand or so doing this.'"
Quote ="BroncOnIon"Do you know that they've done nothing else locally?'"
Quote ="gutterfax"Are you saying they have?'"
Quote ="wire quin"10000 leaflets posted it says on FB'"
Quote ="meliferra"Harrow Observer has had a full page spread for the last couple of weeks. A friend runs the admin at the shopping centre in Edgware and I know the Hive do occasional marketing exercises there.'"
Quote ="BroncOnIon"Yes, it's a bit difficult for gutters to notice that kind of stuff from 12,000 miles away.'"
Quote ="gutterfax"Indeed.......but the resultant attendances are there for all to see'"
Oh....on the last point. 1,017 is the result of putting flyers in letter boxes and ads in the papers. That's not marketing,,,,,,,that's advertising.
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| Quote ="willow6666"That hurt today. Some of the tries were comical. Vea, Cunnngham, Farrar, Solamona, Moore look good players but there is no team defensive structure. The forwards are not big enough to allow the backs the time to play.'"
Great shout re our forwards not being big enough. They need to bulk up a lot to protect our backs and enable em to utilize their fast feet and skill.
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Great shout re our forwards not being big enough. They need to bulk up a lot to protect our backs and enable em to utilize their fast feet and skill.'"
Maybe gus could make them a big bowl of madras to share?
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| Quote ="Euclid"No no no, RLLDN says everything is ok! Have faith!'"
That's the spirit. Keep it up Squire!
Who needs enemies, with friendly fires like ours
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Maybe gus could make them a big bowl of madras to share?'"
Lol, with a protein shake in each portion. Like it.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Which is the point I was reaponding to......but some just can't see past their own negativity on here!
Officially the lowest SL crowd for the London team in 19 seasons.........gus must be on a bonus now whilst tone rea and the team will be looking towards the 3rd set if 4 games for that elusive first win.....Leeds castleford and saints will loving murder us'"
Yeh, totally agree about more incentives needed to get new fans. You can bring a horse to water but can't make it drink it without an incentive right........
We need to be thinking outside the box more to get in more punters despite results. Ie: making it a matchday experience .
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| Quote ="RLLDN"We need to be thinking outside the box more to get in more punters despite results. Ie: making it a matchday experience .'"
Thinking outside the box Making a matchday experience is hardly rocket science and something the club had done for years.
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| Getting new supporters in the current situation is not an option. Magically getting Barnet's 1500 fans likewise. The question is how do WE get those who have stopped coming to watch us again. I say we meaning the supporters; we have a pretty good idea of what the rump Broncos organisation can do about this.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Thinking outside the box
Making a matchday experience is hardly rocket science and something the club had done for years.'"
Yep, and something that is desperately needed now. Man utd have won trophies for years, but are not doing so right now. Things need to be adapted when the chips are down.
Things can change if they let the willing volunteers help
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Yep, and something that is desperately needed now. Man utd have won trophies for years, but are not doing so right now. Things need to be adapted when the chips are down.
Things can change if they let the willing volunteers help
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Comparing our club's plight to Man Utd is frankly ridiculous.
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Yep, and something that is desperately needed now. Man utd have won trophies for years, but are not doing so right now. Things need to be adapted when the chips are down.
Things can change if they let the willing volunteers help
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What are volunteers going to do to help the club?
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| Come to The Old Kings Head on Thursday and help shape what we can do!
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| Yesterday was dire and a worrying regression given that we were okay last week. Really awful.
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| Quote ="wantawin"What are volunteers going to do to help the club?'"
Perhaps a lot more to promote the club than the current marketing lot are doing as they seem to know more about the area. It baffles me that there hasn't been a massive concerted effort to get the name around to the new area apart from a Harrow Observer ad and a few tweets that I am only aware of.
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| As the crowds are getting so low maybe the time has come for the club to be more innovative? Maybe let kids living in local, selected postcode(s) in free all season if they come with an adult? Let the adults come free all seasobn too so long as the kid and adult buy a replica shirt first visit? Make sure there are catering outlets with profits going to Hive. May find that revenues actually increase with free entry?
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| As a "lapsed fan" this season I find it interesting that I have not received a single communication asking me to come back or why I have not gone.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"As a "lapsed fan" this season I find it interesting that I have not received a single communication asking me to come back or why I have not gone.'"
Likewise. They are just not interested, and the feeling is becoming mutual.
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| I couldn't get to yesterday's game (only time I have been thankful that I was ill).
But can anyone who was there tell me just what was the HB pairing. I ask because when I saw the line up and that Bishay was on the bench and that Moore and Cunningham were both in the starting 13. so did one of these play in the halves with Drinkwater and Bishay was playing the hooker role of the bench.
If this was the case, it sounds madness to me. Moore and Cunningham have been playing well when both playing the hooker role. and Bishay been doing alright in the halves. So why would TR mess around with this it don't make sense how can players get use to each other if week after week he moves them round.
I read that Farrar played FB, which again I don't understand from what I read and picked up on when asking in a NRL forum that Solomona is a great FB and the Mel Storm coach didn't want him to leave and the fans saw him as the guy to take over from Billy Slater.
I don't know a thing about coaching (so know need for any comments ok lol). but wouldn't it have been better to play Farrar in the centres to keep an eye on the young ones and then have Solomona at FB. and then stop messing with the halves and have Drinkwater/Bishay, and then just let Moore and Cunningham do their job at Hooker.
maybe then the guys can stop dicking around and know where they playing all season. I just look at the Bulls game and Drinkwater/Farrar ran that well and we know we could have won it if the rest of the backline hadn't got injured and left us short and no bench to use. And against the Wolves Bishay had a good game in the halves and for a while we were in with a shout in that game.
I just don't understand why all the moving around in position. so after all that waffle if anyone can tell me what the set up was and if you felt it was wrong or went ok.
On another note after that defeat I was trying to get out of going out next Friday night, but I aint now that's for sure.. Watching what Leeds could and will do to us will be more then my heart and nerves could take, that and my wife be so glad as I wont be screaming at the tv and having the neighbour's moaning or thinking she try to kill me yet again.
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