The Monkey is toxic there is no question about that. He's not all embracing, just being manipulated by a few No1 fans. Silly boy.

The No1 fans are the small gang that sit just outside the bar to the left as you look from the dugouts. They have achieved what they wanted which is to be heard (by the Monkey) and become in their eyes important to the detriment of the club. Helping Monkey man on match days selling programmes(when we had them).......... Of course you won't hear them they have what they want. Like the left with Corbyn, they created a niche alienated the public that eventually killed the party off. Sound familiar.

You are quite right WQ, That little clique who are in monkeys pocket. They like a drink that lot.
They never did anything for the club prior to monkeys arrival.

Point of order.
Hughes has had absolute control of the club since 2007. In 15 seasons he's decimated the club, making it less attractive with each decision.

As for the "keep supporting" stance. Why would you want to continue to support a club that has gone out of it's way to alienate it's fans?

I can understand fans getting upset 20 years ago with people posting negative warnings about what was going to happen, but Christ, I'd never have expected them to still be getting upset when predictions from 2 decades ago come to fruition.



Hughes has killed the club. No romantic ideal about without him etc......he's completely butchered it and people need to stop being so polite about it.

Not a clue who the so-called monkey is? and I'm not interested, all I want to see and always wanted to see is Rugby League succeed in Our Capital, I'm not interested in the least in politics of them and us! We should all be United!

I go to a match to enjoy the rugby and have a good day out, clique? not a clue what your talking about, I only know 2 other supporters at the club!

That's your opinion! do what are you doing here still? If I was liking to leave a top club like Saints, over Principal, all those years back and not have one Regret! I'm not interested in the club I was brought up on, did so much for, can't stomach to even watch them now!.

Do you seriously expect to get 4,000 in the championship? and to a ground that's not even division 2 standard, never liked it, never will, seasons at Charlton Athletic & The Stoop I never missed a home or away game in the country, a 500 mile round trip for home games, even night games,

The only way we will attract larger attendances is in Super League and a ground people feel at home in, people want modern facilities these days, have family tickets, at a good price, get them into feeling a part of the club, at Fulham it felt like that!

You don't need to know who Monkey is just look at the dwindling crowd and think ah Monkey.

If the club had not driven most of the fans away, we would not have moved to Ealing in the first place. We might not have been a champ side either. A well managed club would ot find itself.in out position, that's the point.

No. It's a cast Iron fact and your response is a perfect example of 'fiddling while Rome Burns"



In 2007 & 8 we had a side watched by 4,000 fans. A side with Howell, Mclinden, Henry Paul, Tamata., Purdham, Orr and Scott Hill!

If the demise to the stage where we have 8% of that gate, in a second tier wedding venue isn't 100% the fault of David Hughes then who the farks fault is it?

Who employed Blanchard? Who employed Gus? Who promoted Powell to head coach? Who employed Joey Grima? Who swallowed the story that Kids thought RL meant Rugby Lessons so changed our name? Who shifted us from a purpose built Rugby Stadium to a 3rd tier soccer stadium and then a wedding venue?
£30,000,000 (probably more) and it's got to the stage now where he's surrounded himself with sycophantic "yes men" who applaud him whilst the club rots.

He's not cared a jot for the club. He's cared for his farking ego!

Talk about missing the point entirely!

When David Hughes took control of the club we were averaging over 4,000 fans per game. Now we're down to 300. That's quite an incredible collapse in support, and it didn't happen because we were relegated. There was a continual drip drip drip every year.

So a SL standard ground? Hmmm? Maybe like the Stoop? Or s that not modern enough for you?
Family tickets? Hmm...I recall 2 adults and 2 kids for a SL game was an option for £40 at most Quins RL games.....now it's £60 and a "deal" at a wedding venue in the 2nd tier....hmmmm..,and there was apple parking for families at Quins.
The last Xmas family gathering at the club I can recall was 2008.....since then there has been zero. Remind me again who had sole ownership of the club since 2008?
Hughes has been giving the club chemothrapy whilst buying it 60 fags a day....I'm done with anyone who makes excuses for the arrogant idiot.
We lost 25 players at the seasons end after he spat his dummy.....relegation was bolted on. His guilt money since then has just prolonged the agony.

You can all blame one person! But if he leaves, that's the end! The RFL would come running to our assistance.

Who cares about them? If you want to go to the games. Just go.

Rammo. Al and the rest of them are full of p and wind and pretty much ignored by most other supporters at the club.

Other clubs have crashed and come back. The only issue I have is that we actually had been on the way back, yes very slowly but season on season we was growing at Ealing, each season brought a few more fans, and the squad improved until we finally made it back to SL, and then almost survived and scared the pants off everybody. Look at Leigh right now, and if Fev go up this year, they also won't win a game next year either.

My issue is that I actially saw a future for the club again with how we progressed at Ealing, yes we needed to move from Ealing at some point, but now was not the time. Like it or not it was cheap, it was perfect for Championship RL, and rebuilding after covid and relegation would have taken the squad at least 2 seasons to get back into SL. Then you move at that point, you increase ST prices once we get promoted, but you keep them as is right now.

Increasing Ticket prices like they have done, while no money at all spend on Squad, is what has killed this for most people. I cannot believe we are paying less at PL then we are paying at Ealing, so to move to a stadium where the rent is higher when income is going to be less just makes no sense. Also you can't go part time paying the sort of rent we have to pay at PL

Nope it's £70. £20 for mum and dad each and £15 each for my 6 and 9 year old

I know because that's where we were all going last Sunday until I tried to buy the tickets. Saw the price rise and went myself only. Seems everyone did as there virtually no children at all unlike before

Final straw - I'm done and not going again unless there are serious changes to everything

Might even change my forum name!

Pay attention Northernbloke......apparently, I was wrong and as usual, your apologetic version was right?.......


The problem with Forum admins is they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Because the repetitive message upset people and they collectively whined, the Mods shoot the messenger......by the time they realise the Message was on point, they'll never admit they made a mistake.

This Forum, like Total RL, was born from fanzines. As a fan of the London Broncos I was alarmed at how badly the game was run when I became a fan. On viewing forums like this, I noticed that there was a weird need to slag of union? As a fan of both sports and not a factory/pitworker in 1890, I found this bizare...so started to compare the games fortune, the marketing, the growth decline and forecasted the eventual outcome....and guess what? The Superleague is now on special offer with SKY and the Broncos are about to vanish up their own 'arris.....

...so don't change your name. Be proud to be a Bedfordshire Bronco fan and remember the good times, but never EVER let the establishment (that's the RFL fanzine guys from 25 years ago who defended the minority and the ones who now ban people for realists and anti THEIR ESTABLISHMENT)....they know where they can stick the red flag now theyve got the foreman job at last

Not sure what those last few comments have got to do with me?

I came on this link to talk about the haven game!

Other people want to talk about other things. It's not all about you. Get over it.

They “plural” (not Al) are behind the scenes influencing issues, playing Monkey, managing social media, banning people, running the SC (monkeys bunch of bananas)………. Back slapping each other, slating the deserters without thinking has this crowd dwindled, is the club going backwards, is this a poor team… they don’t get it.
They like the short term adulation they are getting.

Buzza didnt say it was all about me.
Simply stating the onbvious, the thread title is whitehaven home? Why does it have to turn into 7 pages of not liking monkey lover, the club is rubbish and slagging each other for for not supporting the other persons views.

*playing Monkey,*

WQ this is the only thing I would disagree with you about. It is the other way round those supporters are Monkeys yes men (and woman), he plays them like a fiddle and they agree because they think he is the second coming of Christ. They really do not realise he pulls their strings.

You have been on this forum long enough to know that, whether you like it or not, thread titles won't constrain what people want to talk about.

It may be all that is important in there lives? lol