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| Did the club get kicked out of the Heineken Cup?
You watch RU follow RL again by making blood bins part of the replacement quota.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Did the club get kicked out of the Heineken Cup?
You watch RU follow RL again by making blood bins part of the replacement quota.'"
Club remain in the HK
Deano banned for 3 years
Williams ban reduced to 4 months
Fine increased €300,000 (£285,000) all payable Now.
Sorry state of affairs really. The guy that assisted in the Ruse, a Mr Steph Brennan is currently employed by the RFU....but his 2 year ban means he will probably get the sack..............
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| Oh dear how sad
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| Does Richards' ban only apply to Rugby Union?
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| Quote ="Marcus Notsquare"Does Richards' ban only apply to Rugby Union?'"
Yes and it is not technically a worldwide ban either, only Europe.
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| Quote ="Marcus Notsquare"Does Richards' ban only apply to Rugby Union?'"
Only applies to European Rugby.
That said, the International unions will be asked to implement the ban across the board.
In my opinion, he should never coach again, at any level, in either code, Cheating, if committed in the heat of the moment should be severely punished, but this was premeditated and apparently, not the first time.
What example does it send to young players when one of the best coaches in the country, who was touted to get the England RU jobs blatantly cheats.
I seem to remember that when he was at Leicester Tigers, Neil Back blatantly cheated at a Munster Scrum under his own posts, got away with it and everyone in Union giggled...because it was only the Irish!
You reap what you sow Mr Richards!
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| Tut tut, besmirching the Harlequins "brand".
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
I seem to remember that when he was at Leicester Tigers, Neil Back blatantly cheated at a Munster Scrum under his own posts, got away with it and everyone in Union giggled...because it was only the Irish!
You reap what you sow Mr Richards!'"
Tbf that was gamesmanship from Back in the heat of the moment rather than a planned tactic, if Leicester had pulled the scrum down and the ref given the decision in their favour (most of the time scrum decisions are just a guess on the part of the ref) then it would have been cheating. As it was the scrum half should have been more alert to Back niggling him.
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"Tbf that was gamesmanship'"
Call it what you want, but his hand swept the ball back as it was coming out on the munster side and they were robbed...I call it cheating.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Call it what you want, but his hand swept the ball back as it was coming out on the munster side and they were robbed...I call it cheating.'"
There are many forms of cheating in all sports. The punishment on this occasion seems excessive. Even drugs cheats generally get banned for a year less than Dean Richards, and players guilty of actions that could end an opponent's career much less still.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"There are many forms of cheating in all sports. The punishment on this occasion seems excessive. Even drugs cheats generally get banned for a year less than Dean Richards, and players guilty of actions that could end an opponent's career much less still.'"
Oh....don't get me wrong. I would ban drugs cheats for life and incidents such as eye gouging I would issue 3yr manditory bans if found guilty.
The fact is Richards sent the player on with a blood capsule in his sock. Richards made the decision to use it. Richards therefore made a premeditated attempt to cheat to win a game and I think given the option of a 3yr ban for the coach or the £1,500,000 hit on expulsion from the HK.....Mr Evans made the decision for Richards and made it harder for the club to be kicked out of the comp.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"Compared to spousal abuse, massive recreational drug use (Andrew Johns for example but there are more), assault, rectal probing, ball tampering, drunken stupidity, sexual misconduct, sexual assault...'"
Still, that's enough about the St Austell ladies bowls team.
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| Quote ="Homer"Still, that's enough about the St Austell ladies bowls team.'"
You say that but you've not been on the receiving end. They're one tough bunch of old crones and no mistake...
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| I am moving to St Austell now!!!!!!
As for cheating! sadly its creaping in to all sports including our own! not as blatant as the blood thing
But was it Benji in the world cup with the dive!! even admitted it, said his family even gave him stick over it.
Ok its a pro sport i know but when games are on TV i think a bit of honesty from some of the players would not go amiss (ok i know it will never happen)
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Stevo and eddie talk about it a lot with players giving themselves away
Am sorry but if you blatantly knock on when grounding a ball, its going to get seen by the vid ref, just say so
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| Quote As for cheating! sadly its creaping in to all sports including our own! not as blatant as the blood thing'"
One of the reasons for going to 12 subs from the previous number + blood bins was due to similar incidents in leaguue-RU will follow suit rest assured
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| Quote ="Dan Stains woz God"Really disappointed that Deano has gone in the wake of bloodgate.
He was in the process of building a very good Quins team and this is a real blow to the club.
What a rotten end to a good season for Quins.
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Who gives a t*ss?
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| The press have turned their fire on Mark Evans in the past 48 hours. If he ends up going we might just care given he seems to be the most pro RL man at Quins...........
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| Exactly, Halfdan.
We really don't need anything rocking the boat at the moment.
Better the devils you know and all that.
BTW, ME was at the Bradford game the other week.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"Compared to spousal abuse, massive recreational drug use , assault, rectal probing, ball tampering, drunken stupidity, sexual misconduct, sexual assault...'" Chrst!!!!!!!!...for a moment there I thought you had stole my diary...
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"The press have turned their fire on Mark Evans in the past 48 hours. If he ends up going we might just care given he seems to be the most pro RL man at Quins...........'"
No, I still wouldn't care.
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| Any chance we can blame our recent slump in form on this scandal?
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| Dean Richards ban is now worldwide.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Call it what you want, but his hand swept the ball back as it was coming out on the munster side and they were robbed...I call it cheating.'"
Yes it's cheating, just as being offside is cheating, or killing the ball (RU) is cheating, holding down (RL) is cheating (and dare I say it a ref who is wittingly or unwittingly more lenient with one side than an other on a particular type of decision is effectively cheating).
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