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| Well disciplined???? You watch a different team to me. Invariably even when we win we are the wrong side of the penalty count, how that makes then disciplined am not sure! The rest I can't disagree with
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| So Wires have sacked Smith and for some of you who rate Andrew so highly will be sleeping uncomfortably in your bed.
Moran and or his rep are heading to Australia head hunting. I'm assuming they will fly from Heathrow so they can nip into Ealing to speak with Andrew
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| Wire wont risk Hendo, they will go with a much more proven manager. Hendo needs to get us promoted really before looking at a gig like Wire. We have 2 games coming up vs Widnes and Leigh.. He needs to win at least one of those games for us to have not gone backwards from last season, and I think he needs to get London to come top of the championship next year to be in consideration for a larger SL club.
MPG was the min requirement this year, and it looks like we will miss out owing to dropping silly points vs Cats, Fev and Warrington.... Hopefully we will sneak in, but I have feeling Widnes will want to make sure of third next week, so I dont see us getting anything next week. We will hopefully beat Leigh, but only 5 points will leave us 6th, and in the same place as last year
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| Dropping silly points against Catalan and Warrington ?
That could also be written as coming up just short against the two Super League teams. The only dropped point was that against Fev.
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"Dropping silly points against Catalan and Warrington ?
That could also be written as coming up just short against the two Super League teams. The only dropped point was that against Fev.'"
Depends on how you look at the game, if Sammut had kicked the penalty into touch 5 mins before the end of the first half, Warrington would not have scored just before 1/2 time and gained both 6 points plus all the momentum going into half time. Therefore out inabilty to perform a simple rugby league ability like kicking a ball into touch when its a penalty cost us the points. That is my view is dropped points, as warrington did not beat us, we beat ourselves.
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| Crashmon, you are right. We all have our opinions on that call made by the TJ, reality is it was a penalty, a free kick into touch, the poor execution forced a call by the TJ that should never have been needed.
We lose games more than the other team winning them. How many times have we kicked out on the full from a re start? It's criminal! The not taking kick at goal for penalties or attempting drop goals worry me less, it's the no pressure stuff we get wrong that hurts.
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| Quote ="crashmon"Wire wont risk Hendo, they will go with a much more proven manager.
Geoff'"
I suspect you're right. Oddly, Warrington find themselves in the same situation as they did when Smith was appointed, in that they have a bunch of players who are underperforming. I would assume they would look to do the same as when appointing Smith, a coach with a track record of coaching top quality players and getting the best out of them.
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| It does not look like they will.
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| Following Wigans failure to make the semi finals of The Super League 8s. Changes are said to be planned at the club. Shaun Wane is thought to be keeping his job, but from what I understand, John Winder may well be forced to leave. This would leave an opening for an Assistant Coach with the potential of taking the first team coaches job in the future.
Would Hendo be up for it? I think he would find it hard to turn down if offered. It might be a sensible move for The Pies. However there is no love lost between Ian Lenegan and David Hughes, which would complicate things.
We shall just have to see how things pan out with our award winning coach..
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| Wigan need specialist coaches such as an attack coach like Deacon and Harris not a general coach. Wane sorts defence, aggression out but they seem to struggle with attacking shape.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Wigan need specialist coaches such as an attack coach like Deacon and Harris not a general coach. Wane sorts defence, aggression out but they seem to struggle with attacking shape.'"
Are you trying to say Wiggan don't have specialist coaches?
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| Maybe you could name the specialist attack, defence coaches
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It's as if Clubb, LMS, McMeeken, Caton Brown, Sarginson, Krasniqui, and many many more never really happened. Jonsey ran a great youth system for many years long before the current management team were in town.
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It's as if Clubb, LMS, McMeeken, Caton Brown, Sarginson, Krasniqui, and many many more never really happened. Jonsey ran a great youth system for many years long before the current management team were in town.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"www.totalrl.com/andrew-henderson-insists-committed-london-broncos-regrowth/
It's as if Clubb, LMS, McMeeken, Caton Brown, Sarginson, Krasniqui, and many many more never really happened. Jonsey ran a great youth system for many years long before the current management team were in town.'"
So much wrong with that article it's hard to know where to start?
But here goes
Quote I think London has had its knockers in the past [uand rightly so[/u'"
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE F&&K? London RL is just fine buddy.....talk to the guy who pays your wages if you want to know where the problems start and end!
Quote “We’re spreading the gospel down here. We’re giving kids the opportunity to be exposed to Rugby League.'"
Just checked my wardrobe.....12...that's a dozen Broncos shirts in my wardrobe, 8 in my wife's and I believe my daughter still has about 6....we've been spreading the gospel? Have we F&&K! We are preaching to the converted and us converts aren't getting any younger.......we've had good youth teams and set ups for a decade or more....stop jumping in the good foundations laid by Jones and claiming it as a + in your ledger.
Quote but I’d like to think for the first time we will put our roots in London and Ealing and go from there.”'"
Not a chance that London Broncos v Wigan Warriors in SL 2019 or later will be played at the Wedding Venue.......not a chance in hell. My flat around the corner in Hanwell recently had a neighbour request to put up a conservatory and he received 33 objections......there are only 20 flats in the Block FFS......not a chance in hell we'd get even temporary stands put up at the venue.
Quote But what I do know and trust is that we are putting the right system and structures in place'"
Systems that will fold like a cardboard box once old money bags leaves......600 fans paying 10k a game isn't enough to float the ETF boat and as soon as we're "ownerless' we're gone.....a wedding will generate more revenue than we do!
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| GF I fully agree with your sentiments. The only explanation I could come up with is that we will be based at Ealing but play SL at a decent ground. i.e. rent it for 14 games.
I'm not even sure Ealing is set up to be a commercial operation either. Im not talking about events on non match days as thats for the union club, more offices for the marketing teams etc
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| Ealing trailfinders ru are planning on how they can comply with requirements next season should they be in the position to get promoted again. It not just us
Dog, why do you have to scatter profanity into your post? There is no need for it.
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| I find it quite interesting that we are knocking an article that says good things about the club, I don't see anywhere in it where he knocks what has happened in the past.
Maybe the mistake was not saying we are continuing to spread the gospel in the junior set up.
As for setting roots, to succeed it's got to be done sometime.
As for systems in place folding, what's the other option do nothing at all?
News is about now not the past.
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| Do wigan train at the DW, Hudds the ground they play at? Its just a nothing story. The reality is that people are unwilling to accept or talk about the massive fall we've had and have set the bar so low anything is seen as positive.
Just tell me whats so good about the club and compared to what. Don't use your benchmark as Barnet.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"I find it quite interesting that we are knocking an article that says good things about the club, I don't see anywhere in it where he knocks what has happened in the past.
Maybe the mistake was not saying we are continuing to spread the gospel in the junior set up.
As for setting roots, to succeed it's got to be done sometime.
As for systems in place folding, what's the other option do nothing at all?
News is about now not the past.'"
Sorry for the earlier profanities......bad day and all that!
The Article in itself isn't a bad thing, but I've just watch a video of LMS talking about their game v Castleford and it's so refreshing to hear a cockney accent talking about making the GF and winning things. Henderson has achieved no more or less this year than last year and we are still light in the pack for next year when the competition will be stronger. The pathway for kids has been there for over a decade now and we are starting to see the results but we're still reliant on outsiders coming down to play for us....and Ealing is a great little venue, but we won't be playing SL games there if we do go up......IIRC we had 2 port-a-cabins as offices at Quins when we were first there....Ealing as a base is great but we need access to a 7/10k stadium and more importantly, we need a plan on how to fill it!
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| Had we done the unlikely next year the plan was to stay at Ealing but play our home games elsewhere. As for the future, we all know we cannot play super league at trailfinders as it stands. Trailfinders also cannot get promoted in the RU world. Trailfinders want promotion, they have to and will do something with that venue, what am not sure, just things I hear so yep just rumours.
WQ is right this year we are a step back from last year, so from a coaching point of view actually we have achieved nothing more than we expected to.
Yes we need investment, but where will that come from? DH at the moment is what we have, he was walking a few years back, no one rushed in to take over, so back to call me dog and his predictions. He may be right next year we could end up part time, sorry to say if we are fan owned that's a certainty.
What's the answer, where is the investment? Who knows
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| Quote ="northernbloke"
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Eric Watson.....was the answer in 2006 and is still the answer!
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| I believe someone will come in when Toronto, NY,TO..........are in SL and it becomes a northern hemisphere game
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| Quote ="wire-quin"I believe someone will come in when Toronto, NY,TO..........are in SL and it becomes a northern hemisphere game'"
..possibly, but not with the current RFL management in place...
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| GF you don't know that for fact, just because your 'mate' in NZ wont doesn't mean there aren't others. I do agree fatty Woods needs to be booted into touch with a credible business visionary replacing him.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"GF you don't know that for fact, just because your 'mate' in NZ wont doesn't mean there aren't others.'"
Yeah...there are a line of them around the Trailfinders Ground just waiting to pick up what's left...and my "mate" lives in London....he's fully aware of the fall of the cub from what could have been as well as the expenses that would be incurred trying to even get us back to a level of 2006 Stability......he is a businessman first though who, to paraphrase a snippet from "Pastel Revolution",
Quote does understand marketing, sponsorship staffing & employment etc etc.....'"
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