Penguin how much needs to click for a FT team to beat a PT team?

I genuinely thought (foolishly) we would hammer them! Conditions, pitch .... Is a poor response. The tries conceded says a lot.

I thought it was a typo when I first saw the score.

Is Gutterfax really Rupe 1?

He sounds like him.

surely somebody need a drink

As I said, lets revisit end of March.

Well, hopefully, we either a) took them so lightly that our guys took the urine, and are now still reeling from Grima's bestest "hairdryer"!

or b) Dewsbury at home are going to be formidable for anyone! option c) is almost untenable for a Full Time squad, in what should be a three horse race!

Anyone remember 1994-5 when the new Brisbane owners underestimated Div 2 and we were also-rans. That was one hell of an anti-climax after Tanky Gordon and the wonderful 1993-4 season when anything seemed possible.

I was at the game on Sunday, you just had to look at Hughes face after the game, Paul Sykes, Schofield, they were laughing there head's off, you cannot blame conditions on that, same for both teams, grass was long and field un even, but still a POOR performance,

Dewsbury were just doing basics on us, we missed lots of tackles through centre again and the Dews props were just doing the simple stuff and we had no answer, no on field captains to marshall the troops etc, no plan B, just felt like Deja Vu again for the team.

Having watched a fair bit of Championship rugby I'm not totally shocked we lost, though the margin in surprising. There are some very good teams / players here. The worst team is night and day difference to Skolars/Hemel/Oxford. I think a few will be surprised by some of our opponents. Some of our recruitment was good but some is worrying - the pack concerns me for the umpteenth consecutive year. Whilst being pro will get us over the line in a few games, especially as the season progresses, it's less help early on and I think that the line of thinking it was only games v pro teams that mattered will be wrong and we will lose to some part time teams.

Deeply worrying times for RL down south and not just at the Broncos.

You are probably a bit out of touch with the championship if you thought you would hammer Dewsbury at theirs. There is not much at all between top Championship clubs and lower SL clubs. The top players in this division who are part time are easily as good as some of the players in bottom end SL clubs.

It is certainly looking like Leigh and Bradford will run away with the league and leave about 6 teams fighting for 3rd and 4th place.

Keyes, Foran and Farrar will be targeted in defence. I don't see a way to have all 3 on the pitch at the same time, especially not 2 of them defending together. Waiting to see the highlights but I'd like to see Garside at left centre in place of Farrar who is shot as a physical presence and just shoots out of the line looking for intercepts instead of contact.

On the positive side, we do have a good squad and combinations will take time. Having Riley (injured) and Dollapi (late withdrawal?) on the bench would stiffen things up. Nor is defeat away at Dewsbury (an improving mid-table side) a disgrace. But 34-6 is.

They've got 10 days of looking in the mirror to get things sorted
Hopefully this is what was needed to get it into there heads what's coming. No excuse for missing tackles other than lack of application. You don't see Wigan missing many knowing Wane is waiting for them.

Grima needs to fire this lot up.

Grima looked like he was going to cry in the interview after!! what is up with Riley??? I really hope we are looking at brining some more bodies in

Quote ="Honkytonk"Grima looked like he was going to cry in the interview after!! '" Didn't he just, like the rest of here. Vid here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clikJ1Xu0PM Edit: As an aside I'm really enjoying these videos the club are now putting up for all to see - and without any sugarcoating.

Quote ="Honkytonk"Grima looked like he was going to cry in the interview after!! '" Didn't he just, like the rest of here. Vid here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clikJ1Xu0PM Edit: As an aside I'm really enjoying these videos the club are now putting up for all to see - and without any sugarcoating.

Quote ="Torbreck" Quote ="Honkytonk"Grima looked like he was going to cry in the interview after!! '" Didn't he just, like the rest of here. Vid here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clikJ1Xu0PM Edit: As an aside I'm really enjoying these videos the club are now putting up for all to see - and without any sugarcoating.'" No match highlights yet though. I guess they're trying to find one? Found a match report. Guess where? www.dewsburyrams.co.uk/news/arti ... on-broncos

Quote ="Torbreck" Quote ="Honkytonk"Grima looked like he was going to cry in the interview after!! '" Didn't he just, like the rest of here. Vid here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clikJ1Xu0PM Edit: As an aside I'm really enjoying these videos the club are now putting up for all to see - and without any sugarcoating.'" No match highlights yet though. I guess they're trying to find one? Found a match report. Guess where? www.dewsburyrams.co.uk/news/arti ... on-broncos

Again....why wait until March? Have you seen the interview?

He is out of his depth.....another class piece of recruitment by Hughes!

Yes and wasn't the first game of that era away to Dewsbury too. A 14-12 loss in the cup after we had given it the big I am

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Ok, let me make this simple for you as you are obviously struggling. I am unable to make any sensible contributions to this debate after a sorry defeat to Dewsbury. Having been to the game (please note), there was little to cheer about but not enough to make me think it is a hopeless case. So, my view, is lets see how the first month of the season goes. I know your approach on this board is to fire loads of negatives around up front in the likely event several will come true and you can be the 'big I am' - its a shame when they dont come off you cant be gracious enough to admit it.

As for JG, he's is passionate, so why should he not look upset. By the same token he's not as soft as made out, bear in mind he fired two players before the end of last season. He wont suffer underachievement.

Anyhow lets chat anon.

I'm not making excuses for what was a poor performance - Dewsbury were better on the day.
The Rams played dry weather football creating a ton of space out wide whilst we looked to be compressing the middle anticipating a wet weather "up the jumper" affair, and we didn't really adjust.
The disappointing bit - apart from losing 34-6 obviously - was our lack of teeth in attack, we had a couple of chances but not many.
Dewsbury finished 5th last year, and they showed why. Properly a wake up call.
On the positive side, we've two weeks to address our play, it was only £10 to get in, and San Miguel was £3.50.

We'll see how Joey's skills are in the next couple of weeks. He needs a fair crack with the team he's put together before he's judged - he's been assistant in three NRL clubs so he can't be that bad, and Tony Rea must have been happy with him as assistant, so not only David Hughes decision/recommendation.

I think this is a very good point. Farrar looks so small, anyone with any size just seems to run through him, foran looks too slow, and people waltz past him, Keyes, to young and lacks weight. if we play all three then we need to have a good plan to provide cover.

No that was the start of 1996 before Tony Currie took over, we were coached? that night by Tony Rea, Peter Gill and Terry Matterson! I was one of three London fans to make the trip - so maybe it is our bogey ground.

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