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| On the subject of British coaches, watched the Carney interview with Shaun Edwards last night….now there is a guy who has proved himself in the Union game and has not discounted a return to RL in a coaching capacity.
It would seem that he likes being in and living in London, has family in London, has good memories of his time with the Broncos and still keeps an eye on our progress. He has a good mate `John` who is still a Broncos fan…………John, do us all a favour and get him to come along and have a word with David Hughes.
Wouldn`t it be good if once, just once, something fell into place for London and someone of his quality wanted to help make a success of London RL and spread the gospel. He said in the interview that the game of RL needs stars like Tomkins to build the game and pull in new fans in, well the same could be said of the potential impact he could have in making the game a success down south.
It would be oh so easy for him to return to league, no doubt get a slot at Wigan and make a success of it as he would be working with an already winning team. The greater challenge would be for him to recognise where expertise like his is most needed and be part of turning around London`s fortunes and helping the expansion of the game……that could be his legacy to the game.
If he were to get involved with London, be it on a full time or part time basis, it would do so much for the club and RL down south and potentially be the draw needed to attract additional investment in the Broncos.
I know I am only dreaming, but he could do so much for the game and particularly the game down south if he were up for the challenge.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Hello WQ. Comment's not directed at you specifically, but I do scratch my head as to why there is a perception that because someone is Australian they are clearly better than someone from blighty re coaching RL.
It's a mindset I personally detest and is deep rooted in our psyche. Time to get rid of it.'"
Well, we could go through all the recent changes from Brit > Aussie or Aussie > Brit and see whether the club improved/declined/maintained. I think we'd see that Brit > Aussie generally improves performances. We also need to remember that the Aussies over here are nowhere near the best pickings; the British coaches are, however, the cream of what our coaching system has to offer.
I too detest the 'Aussie is best' psyche. I think it leads us to prefer some very ordinary players and coaches to better British ones. But, at the very top, the best 12 or so coaches in the world are almost certainly all Aussies - if you genuinely think differently, you'd be able to name the British contenders.
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| A good short term fix for the rest of the season would be Brian Noble. I know that there's a rumour that he's not prepared to take a job that involves a house move, but if it's just to the end of the season he'd only need temporary accomodation (I believe that some of the benches on Richmond Green are quite comfy!).
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"On the subject of British coaches, watched the Carney interview with Shaun Edwards last night….now there is a guy who has proved himself in the Union game and has not discounted a return to RL in a coaching capacity.
It would seem that he likes being in and living in London, has family in London, has good memories of his time with the Broncos and still keeps an eye on our progress. He has a good mate `John` who is still a Broncos fan…………John, do us all a favour and get him to come along and have a word with David Hughes.
Wouldn`t it be good if once, just once, something fell into place for London and someone of his quality wanted to help make a success of London RL and spread the gospel. He said in the interview that the game of RL needs stars like Tomkins to build the game and pull in new fans in, well the same could be said of the potential impact he could have in making the game a success down south.
It would be oh so easy for him to return to league, no doubt get a slot at Wigan and make a success of it as he would be working with an already winning team. The greater challenge would be for him to recognise where expertise like his is most needed and be part of turning around London`s fortunes and helping the expansion of the game……that could be his legacy to the game.
If he were to get involved with London, be it on a full time or part time basis, it would do so much for the club and RL down south and potentially be the draw needed to attract additional investment in the Broncos.
I know I am only dreaming, but he could do so much for the game and particularly the game down south if he were up for the challenge.'"
I watched this as well and was amazed he wasnt offered any sort of coaching role when he first retired. i know a few years abck when we were looking for a coach he was meant to have said something about him and i think it was Gilly taking over as coaches and could do a good job of it,and the rumour was he rubbed Tony Rea up the wrong way by saying this in the press and not to him or the club.
At least he down went to Aus on more then one occasion to learn more on coaching and worked with Wayne Bennett and they are still good mates (now theres a contact for when scouting players). Yes i know it was a few years ago but he has become a far better coach since then and you only have to look at what he has done with not only the Wasps defence but the Welsh too.
Its just a shame when he left Wasps that Wales are going on a tour down to Aus, as he might have been free for a couple of weeks to have a word and look at what we doing in defence training to improve it.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"A good short term fix for the rest of the season would be Brian Noble. I know that there's a rumour that he's not prepared to take a job that involves a house move, but if it's just to the end of the season he'd only need temporary accomodation (I believe that some of the benches on Richmond Green are quite comfy!).'"
I heard he commuted to Wrexham, don't feel he would do that to London, he could do a job and bring some stability and be used in PR exercises.
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| Quote ="Colly2"I too detest the 'Aussie is best' psyche. I think it leads us to prefer some very ordinary players and coaches to better British ones. But, at the very top, the best 12 or so coaches in the world are almost certainly all Aussies - if you genuinely think differently, you'd be able to name the British contenders.'"
If I followed the game back home, I'd have some chance about thinking differently. But I don't. I just look out for our results these days.
Besides how does one quantify if someone's a good coach? By results? Has Stephen Kearney become a shıt coach after helping Melbourne win premierships over the years and win a 4 nations with NZ? Afterall, his team are bottom. Or Ivan Cleary who was an assistant under Ricky Stuart when helping the Roosters make 3 consecutive Grand Finals and winning one Premisership, also taking the Warriors to last year's GF? Is he now a shıt coach? His team are second from bottom afterall.
Aussies do not learn more. They have no super powers, they don't know much different. They have no magic wand. Because internationally they have beaten us often over a series for decades, the richer clubs looked to their best players and coaches and signed them. A bit like they did with our best in the early 70s. They still produce great players. Back home we still sign them. The aussies must be best thing is very frustrating. Moreso when you work in the game over here and hear about there being no real difference in the games, the technique, the sports science, coaching. etc. etc.
I think also having been blessed with the opportunity to be involved in the machinations of clubs over here. I empathise with the club and its staff as some of the things that get said on here are pure fantasy and utter bolloçks. Everyone's jacked off with them and it's understandable because of what's happening on and off the field as to why they're being said, but some of the comments are laughable.
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| Quote Powell, at 31 the youngest coach in Super League by some distance, says he is as keen as his chairman to unearth the reasons for the under-performance of his team and is happy to play his part in the review.
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Tony Currie had the perfect answer for these situations. "Put a mirror at the bottom of your bed and wake up to yourself "
While David is asking the tough questions maybe he can ask Gus to show just what the hell he has achieved? Stones / Glass Houses anyone?
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| Quote Besides how does one quantify if someone's a good coach? By results? Has Stephen Kearney become a shıt coach after helping Melbourne win premierships over the years and win a 4 nations with NZ?'"
He was a No 2 at the Storm behind a great coach with what turned out to be a great No 3(McGuire). With NZ he has been clever enough to bring in the best coach thats ever coached RL as an "assistant". Being a No 1 is different. He may not have the managerial capacity to do it(which is the gamble ie Walters at Catalans etc). Although only one example, look at what Noble and McGuire did at Wigan with the same (ish) resources(players)
They do learn more because the game is bigger in Aus than it is here. Football coaches in UK will learn more about football than lets say Iceland. Thats because more is invested into the science & infrastructure amongst other areas of the game.
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| Hasn't he been working in the club in some capacity recently- I'm sure Ive seen him at matches
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| I wouldn't take anything on Wiki too seriously unless it's confirmed independently, but IF he has been seen around the ground it MIGHT be that RP's been kicked upstairs until the end of the season when his contract expires. We shall see.
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| Quote ="east stander"Hasn't he been working in the club in some capacity recently- I'm sure Ive seen him at matches'"
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Maybe he was watching his brother play.'" Maybe. I thought he was Chris Baileys brother but wasn't 100% sure until now.
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| Oh... and that Wiki page was updated yesterday which coincides with the announcement of the board meeting.
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| Under-pressure London Broncos coach Rob Powell remains undaunted by the club's decision to hold a mid-season review into his under-performing team.
Broncos chairman David Hughes, who has poured millions of pounds into the London club and agreed to spend up to the salary cap this year in a bid to transform their fortunes, yesterday announced he would be leading an inquest into the club's disastrous season so far.
Despite the arrival in pre-season of a host of experienced overseas players, Powell's men are joint bottom of the Stobart Super League after winning just two of their first 13 matches and they crashed out of the Carnegie Challenge Cup in meek fashion last Sunday with a 50-14 defeat at Huddersfield.
Powell, at 31 the youngest coach in Super League by some distance, says he is as keen as his chairman to unearth the reasons for the under-performance of his team and is happy to play his part in the review.
"It's just a reality of where we're at," he said. "Everybody at the club needs to be accountable.
"It's a results-based industry and we have won just two league games so naturally the chairman is not happy. There is nothing untoward or sinister about it.
"It is what it is, questions have to be asked so that we can move forward.
"The players are clearly not performing to the potential we know they've got.
"I'm not passing the buck onto the players, it's my responsibility to best prepare the players to perform and we've got to get to the bottom of why they've under-performed.
"What I would say is there that is no problem with discipline. Obviously things are not going as well as we would have liked but our behaviour as a group is intact.
"The guys are doing things really well and there are no problems or people falling off the boat or wanting to go elsewhere."
Sheffield-born Powell, who cut his coaching teeth at Newcastle University, is in his second season as head coach of the Broncos, having succeeded Brian McDermott when he returned to Leeds.
Meanwhile, the Broncos go "on the road" again on Sunday when they host Hull at Gillingham's Priestfield Stadium.
The move is part of a bid to gauge interest in the professional game in other areas of the south-east.
A fortnight ago London drew a crowd of 2,844 when they played Bradford at Leyton Orient and are hoping to top 4,000 in Kent, where interest in rugby league has been generated by the rapid progress made by amateur club Medway Dragons.
"There is genuine interest in that area," said Powell. "There are some good things going on there.
"It's right to expose the game to different places. It's not technically in London, it's in Kent, but it's an untapped area and apart from cricket, there is not a lot of sport in Gillingham.
"Medway is probably the strongest junior club in the south of England and, in fact, a lot better than some of the northern set-ups."
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| Quote It's just a reality of where we're at," he said. "Everybody at the club needs to be accountable.
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| "It's not technically in London, it's in Kent, but it's an untapped area and apart from cricket, there is not a lot of sport in Gillingham."
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| Quote ="wire quin"What does this mean?'"
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| The review's a complete waste of time. Just sack the head coach and move on. There's nothing wrong with the players as individuals anyone can see that they're just being coached by a man hopelessly out of his depth.
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| The Sky commentary on Sunday mentioned that Bailey was on the backroom staff at the club. Is it true or did they just read Wikipedia?
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| Since when as Gillingham been in London, there is no technical about it.
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They do learn more because the game is bigger in Aus than it is here. Football coaches in UK will learn more about football than lets say Iceland. Thats because more is invested into the science & infrastructure amongst other areas of the game.'"
To start. Kearney was not No 2 and Macguire 3 at Melbourne. They were both assistants and had different responsibilities.
"They do learn more because the game is bigger in oz". You believe that ES. It's exactly the mentality that keeps us and the game where it is, looking up at them. And guess what. It's nonsense. But belief is a large part of it. You ask the Australian National Football team if they thought that before beating England 3-1 that England learnt more because it's bigger.
I'd love to talk to an England RL side who came out here. I'd love to get people who have played in both comps to talk to them. Or were coaches, trainers, conditioners, physios. etc. etc. We fans, don't know this, we just see our national side not beating the aussies in a series. And we believe they are superior in every department including coaching.
Overall it's the capability of the individual rather than where he comes from or how good he played. a la Meninga, Lewis, Fittler. etc. etc. with the flip side being someone like Maguire who was a reserve grade player and only played around 18 or so first grade games in 7 years.
Sorry to harp on, but I do find it frustrating people's perceptions of the mighty aussies back home. Maybe ask an Adrian Morley or a Gareth Ellis when he gets back to talk about a big difference.
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They do learn more because the game is bigger in Aus than it is here. Football coaches in UK will learn more about football than lets say Iceland. Thats because more is invested into the science & infrastructure amongst other areas of the game.'"
To start. Kearney was not No 2 and Macguire 3 at Melbourne. They were both assistants and had different responsibilities.
"They do learn more because the game is bigger in oz". You believe that ES. It's exactly the mentality that keeps us and the game where it is, looking up at them. And guess what. It's nonsense. But belief is a large part of it. You ask the Australian National Football team if they thought that before beating England 3-1 that England learnt more because it's bigger.
I'd love to talk to an England RL side who came out here. I'd love to get people who have played in both comps to talk to them. Or were coaches, trainers, conditioners, physios. etc. etc. We fans, don't know this, we just see our national side not beating the aussies in a series. And we believe they are superior in every department including coaching.
Overall it's the capability of the individual rather than where he comes from or how good he played. a la Meninga, Lewis, Fittler. etc. etc. with the flip side being someone like Maguire who was a reserve grade player and only played around 18 or so first grade games in 7 years.
Sorry to harp on, but I do find it frustrating people's perceptions of the mighty aussies back home. Maybe ask an Adrian Morley or a Gareth Ellis when he gets back to talk about a big difference.
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