BTW Under the sticks, I don't put you into the clueless knee jerker category



More the people who can't construct a decent argument beyond "Mac has to go because the team aren't winning".

Mac is staying so more of the same for the forseeable future - God I feel depressed, its all the fault of those who started saying he was off to Bratfurt getting my hopes up! See you all at the foot of the SL again next season amigos!

I'd be interested to know if he was in actual negotiations with Bradford.

I can't say I would be keen for him to stay if he sees us as second choice.

Hull FC were going backwards and then Richard Agar was awarded a new contract, much to the disgust of 95% of their supporters. They are now 4th in the table and doing really well.

Do you honestly think that's where we'll be at this stage next season ? Much as though I'd love to see it happen I can't see us being anywhere other than between 12th and 14th.....again.

Well I'll wait until the beginning of next season to see what sort of squad we manage to assemble before making such doom and gloom predictions.

Listy, I agree with you to a certain extent, but at the end of the day, it's the coach that control's the team, the way they play, the tactics, the way they line up.
It's the coach's decision.
The players he's recruited have mainly been Leeds academy drop-outs, to put it bluntly, and half of them have left, or aren't being played, and a few are occasionally in the first team, bar Gale, who's a first-teamer, even if he isn't right now.
We might not have the money, but wasting money on players like Mills, Kaye, Nanyn, etc, is huge, as we have such a little amount to start with.
So coming up with the arguement, we haven't got the money anymore isn't that viable, as yes, we don't have as much money as we had when Rea was in charge, but Mc's also wasted quite alot of it.
He just better sort out his tactics, because to me he looks clueless. But we'll see on friday.

I think its quite interesting that a few folk on here are blaming the move to the stoop as one of the probs that we are facing at the moment!
Had we stayed at Brentford would we still be in business? dont forget thats where we went broke

The fact Brian Mac has openly commited himeslf to the club can only be a good thing for the players, ierrelevent what the doom mongerers say on here.
As fans yep we are unhappy as this is prob the worse season we have had in years, if not the history of the club, so what to do, lets put it behind us, accept the fact we need to forget the crap games and look at what went right (not a lot i know but that win at Wigan was good)

Obviously if Bradfurt were interested in Mac then at least they rate him as a coach. Never mind the tactics, lets be blunt here if the players cant keep hold of the bloody ball, no tactics in the world can change that.

And before you say it listy the Clubby fan club has now merged with the mac fan club come on you know you want the clubb tinted glasses

Nice to see the Beeb keeps up with it's usual competence.

They have a photo of Brian McDermott on the RL Homepage — Reading Football club's Brian McDermott.

SSN also showed the 'other' McD while discussing the story today.

Oh and Listy, I would hardly call two years of consistent decline a 'knee jerk' reaction

I am sure Mac would have left if the Bull had taken him, but I presume if they have got Potter they went for a coach with some record, as I have said many times in the past some assistant coaches will never be coaches, if Mac had gone I wonder who we would have got?

A lot of the problems we have at the moment is the players not putting into practise what is done in training. Having said that I have seen the team train and Mac going nuts with frustration after moves break down, players dropping balls and so forth. Mac is passionate about London make no mistake, the issue at the end of the day lays with the ability of the players and they know they have not performed. Ask them they will tell you. What is of interest is tomorrows game with a good number of london players in the team and we have the chance to experiment and the young un's may step up, then again may be over run by Bradford. Lets face it, Mac appears to be staying, this season is over lets start to see if our development policy is going to prove players coming through will cope with SL, and I say this in the belief london based players will form the backbone of the future. Yes I would like quality players and a team that is competitive but we have to work with what we have got, yes we have been poor Mac is not entirely blameless, nor is the team but I have to say our vocal support this year has been the worst I have heard in my 10 years of following RL in London.

.....so you say. You say it is the lack of talent on the field or players that aren't up to it. I ask who employed these players? Who scouted them? Who built a threadbare squad with regard to forwards/
If Mac isn't the worst coach in the clubs SL history, he is second worst.....as I say, his win ratio is terrible....and don't go down the injury route.......you start the season with 30 odd players and have to expect the worst....His squad, his team, his responsibility.

But we have had very little to cheer. Very little to get passionate about. When the game has been exciting, when the players put in the performance the vocals have been very loud. I don't think there is a person on this forum, or indeed many fans who complain for the sake of it, we complain and moan and graon because we are passionate about RL and are not seeing a performance and effort worthy of a London team. We want the team to do well, we will always be there for the team and buy our season tickets. replica shorts and other goodies and we will stand and cheer but we will not always be happy and will not always be vocal. I personally will cheer thorughout the game , clap and sing, applaud the team off the pitch everytime I see a performance worthy of it win or lose but I refuse to applaud a team off the pitch or stand up and clap and cheer when the team don't turn up and appear to show no commitment. It's a two way thing if the team give 100% every game so will the fans regardless of the score.

Yes, and Mac has been restricted like no other coach by the poor finances of the club and the fact it is difficult to convince players to leave the heartlands. No longer can we do what Tony Rea did and sign Australians, Mac has done his best IMO. He has signed decent players too - Howell, Dorn, Williamson, Golden, potenally Ellis, have all been decent buys/aquisitions.

Threadbare squad with regards to forwards?! I don't think I have seen our forwards dominated all season, so I'm not sure which team you have been watching.

Indeed, I'm normally fast to criticize to so called "loyal and loud", but nobody can really blame their lack of enthusiasm and it would be pretty embarrassing for our supporters just to keep on cheering regardless of performances.

Fantastic post

We are at the cap...or bloody close to it if you believe the club.....and I hope we are, because otherwise, where's the £1,500,000 going?

....so what? Brilliant signings? 12th on the ladder after 11th last year would say something differently. And you start by saying TR signed Australians then pointed ou that mac has as well....difference is, TR signed decent players...found gems (Dorn 1st time around being one BTW)....

...didn't say they weren't punching above their weight........just a severe lack of cover and an even greater lack of grunt.......Temata is a second rower.....and our best forward 2 years running now.

Anyway, I am sure the win ratio going up tonight, from 26% to 30% for the season, is good enough reason for you to pipe up later after closing or tomorrow morning in support of the coach. 30% from the man that says "we will win it" when asked how we will do.......unacceptable....and laughable IMO

BBC Radio Manchester RL commentary team have just stated that Mick Potter has turned down to Brudfud job leaving "Quins Brian McDermott" Brudfud's no 1 target.

Also Nathan Brown will stay on @ Giants next season..............

My instinct all along is that he will go. A Bulls fan told me on Friday that they were in talks. Isn't it also strange that Latham wrote the piece in the programme and took the post-match press conference. Brian does not seem happy at Quins, he won't show it, have you met many Yorkshiremen who would not return to the broad acres given half a chance? We could use the compo to get a couple of decent antipodeans to bring the local talent on!

My reaction to Latham taking the press conference was that it was to avoid the inevitable questions about BM and the Bradford job, but if he also did the coach's piece in the programme maybe BM's off after all.

Also for info Rob Powell did the coaches piece in the Wigan programme a couple of weeks a go.

McDermott has failed over the past four years with positions 7, 9, 9, 11 and 13 illustrating the decline. Worse than his signings have been his re-signings and random punts including players in decline e.g. Gafa, Robinson, Grayshon, James, Gardner, Nanyn, Barker etc plus many who have not turned up. He has failed his job interview and he is back with us. Woe for us. There are no fors in keeping him so please don't pretend there are - the law of averages means one win in five and the odd good signing

He's building a competitive squad of British players unlike most SL Clubs, I'm glad Mac is staying with you guy's as I think there is massive unfinished business at Quins. You have the potential in the next 5 years to be a regular top 4 SL side. Once the crowds improve the whole momentum will start swinging in your favour. Quins for the top with a British squad and a good spattering of local lads in the team. Once you can get a regular 7000+ through the door you'll be a match for anyone. I think the Quins RL develoement programme and youth set up is great. Mac can only add quality to the set up.

Competitive? We have won 7 games out of the last 32 over a 12 month period. The reason we have so many English players is that McDermott buys old players who are injured most of the time. He paid big money for Robinson and Williamson both on two year deals. Robinson played 15 times, I bet Williamson has not many more. Probably about 1 season of appearances although paid for 4 seasons between them. Dorn (and Purdham) missed three months after the silly sod took them on an Arctic bootcamp preseason and they fell over on their shoulders. Quins canned a talkback as it was too dangerous to travel but good old Mac he knows best. Howell, Temata and Randall are injured and arguably all 3 have been injury prone over the past 12 months. It would not surprise me if the players trained like Rocky Balboa given the amount of injuries we have. The talent is mainly under 18 like Sarginson and Bishay but the guys between 19 and 22 are largely unplayed or unplayable e.g. Williams, May etc. Let's give em a good manager before we lose another Joe Mbu, Louie or Worrincy. Don't be daft about pretend positives. 4 home wins in 2009 and 5 total wins in 2010.