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| Bribery is a criminal offence, to acuse someone is libel! So I refuse to comment.
Interesting you ignored the question option 1/2/3
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Discussing our home in a thread about our home.....my bad.'"
You were making personal attacks on people who disagreed with you.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"Bribery is a criminal offence, to acuse someone is libel! So I refuse to comment.
Interesting you ignored the question option 1/2/3'"
Option 1. Losing 26 games destroyed the confidence of some younger players who have now been cast aside to make way for some of the coaches buddies.
The reality is that the man who destroyed the club now has an opportunity to walk away blameless in the eyes of some on here. Chirpy confidence of a good season in the 2nd tier seems to placate the few fans left, when in fact we should still be in sl.....
If you dont think i am right, then do some maths......3800 average before hughes took sole ownership.....1200 this year. How many fans are missing......as in they couldn t be d anymore because the club was being death ridden. We lost another 1100 this year........but i am wrong in your eyes.
After asking for help and threatening to walk a few years back, hughes hailed his achievement of getting assistance......not money but assistance. In 2014 the rfl stumped up assistance and cash...CASH. it was a bribe to get AK to take us in.
As for 2015......sure, the team will win more than they lose, but fev arent the draw wigan are.....new fans will be harder to come by now.
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| It's been a disaster, one monumental cock up too far resulting in us losing a HUGE portion of our fanbase, forever, and getting relegated.
I don't see any bright future for the club, we'll win a few games next year sure, but we WILL NOT get promoted and the lost fans will not come back, I expect if we get this long term deal signed at the Hive we'll be playing lower tier RL for the next 10 - 20 years in front of crowds of 500-1000.
Where there's life there's hope so you never know I guess, and I'm pleased we'll still be around, but it's such a shame the supporters have gone.
If we'd moved to the Hive with that support still there we'd be one of the strongest clubs outside SL with a real hope for the future.
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| Ah so you show your true colours, in your opinion then we should have folded last year and not played at all.
As you love your numbers so much, how would that have panned out with comparison fan numbers?
As for shattering confidence errrrr the difference is they played rugby league, not playing at all would have achieved what for players confidence levels?
Coaches build squads generally from players they know, if you consider that to be looking after his mates, then so what? It's what happens.
As for not having the draw of big clubs and fans on here looking at the positives of next year, sadly some of us want to watch rugby league, yep we would prefer it to be SL but it's not going to be, so we will enjoy what we can, constant bleating ain't going to change it.
But most of us obviously not including gutters are just pleased we still have the team to support
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"Ah so you show your true colours, in your opinion then we should have folded last year and not played at all.
As you love your numbers so much, how would that have panned out with comparison fan numbers?
As for shattering confidence errrrr the difference is they played rugby league, not playing at all would have achieved what for players confidence levels?
Coaches build squads generally from players they know, if you consider that to be looking after his mates, then so what? It's what happens.
As for not having the draw of big clubs and fans on here looking at the positives of next year, sadly some of us want to watch rugby league, yep we would prefer it to be SL but it's not going to be, so we will enjoy what we can, constant bleating ain't going to change it.
But most of us obviously not including gutters are just pleased we still have the team to support'"
My true colours
Believe me Michael, i would give anything to see a successful london sl club but i refuse to accept that hughes js anything more than a meglomaniac who has killed us.
Id have rather the rfl had let lenegan own us, but the minute tbey said no, hughes should have ploughed in with demands for assistance. .....
The confidence of those players playing rl was shot......and that was before they were binned.
Skolars play rl.......broncos edge was that jt was top flight. 500 is tops in regard to next years regular seasons average........and memberships?????
Most of us? Wrong mikey boy......wrong. most of us are GONE. Close to 4k to close to 1k in 6 years.........lets applaud huges some more shall we.....after all......it is HIS CLUB
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| Quote ="gutterfax"www.wasps.co.uk/news/article/2014/10/08/the-ricoh-arena-q-as
Interesting article'" Very!!! Sounds similar to our plight doesn't it.
Over the last ten years we have made no secret of our determination to find a permanent home we can call our own. It’s a move we believe is essential to guarantee the long-term success of the Club, both on and off the pitch.
Unfortunately attendances at Adams Park have not been as high as we would have wished, or as we need, to survive as a business in the professional era.
Why can’t we stay at Adams Park?
We run a high risk of going bust. It’s as simple as that.
Adams Park was always intended as a short-term solution. The Club doesn’t make enough money in High Wycombe for it to be sustainable - for every £1 spent by supporters at Adams Park the Club gets 15p.
Over the past 18 months our owner has absorbed almost £10million of the Club’s losses. We are losing approximately £3 million every year. We cannot continue in that vein if we want our Club to survive and succeed.
Staying where we are would mean continuing to lose £3 million a year while awaiting planning permission elsewhere. The green field sites we have explored have a low chance of success. On average, securing planning consent, building new stadiums and the infrastructure they require, takes 10 years to come to fruition.
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Very!!! Sounds similar to our plight doesn't it.
Over the last ten years we have made no secret of our determination to find a permanent home we can call our own. It’s a move we believe is essential to guarantee the long-term success of the Club, both on and off the pitch.
Unfortunately attendances at Adams Park have not been as high as we would have wished, or as we need, to survive as a business in the professional era.
Why can’t we stay at Adams Park?
We run a high risk of going bust. It’s as simple as that.
Adams Park was always intended as a short-term solution. The Club doesn’t make enough money in High Wycombe for it to be sustainable - for every £1 spent by supporters at Adams Park the Club gets 15p.
Over the past 18 months our owner has absorbed almost £10million of the Club’s losses. We are losing approximately £3 million every year. We cannot continue in that vein if we want our Club to survive and succeed.
Staying where we are would mean continuing to lose £3 million a year while awaiting planning permission elsewhere. The green field sites we have explored have a low chance of success. On average, securing planning consent, building new stadiums and the infrastructure they require, takes 10 years to come to fruition.'"
....very open statement. Compare it to the ramblings of the cricket feilding maestro and part time CEO who applauded his own efforts in the same area of business
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| as a bloke that came to one game this season I never classed you as part of us anyhow mate.
And why could Lenehgan not own us
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Very!!! Sounds similar to our plight doesn't it.
Over the last ten years we have made no secret of our determination to find a permanent home we can call our own. It’s a move we believe is essential to guarantee the long-term success of the Club, both on and off the pitch.
Unfortunately attendances at Adams Park have not been as high as we would have wished, or as we need, to survive as a business in the professional era.
Why can’t we stay at Adams Park?
We run a high risk of going bust. It’s as simple as that.
Adams Park was always intended as a short-term solution. The Club doesn’t make enough money in High Wycombe for it to be sustainable - for every £1 spent by supporters at Adams Park the Club gets 15p.
Over the past 18 months our owner has absorbed almost £10million of the Club’s losses. We are losing approximately £3 million every year. We cannot continue in that vein if we want our Club to survive and succeed.
Staying where we are would mean continuing to lose £3 million a year while awaiting planning permission elsewhere. The green field sites we have explored have a low chance of success. On average, securing planning consent, building new stadiums and the infrastructure they require, takes 10 years to come to fruition.'"
Be interesting to see the support we get in Coventry ... Over 2.800 supporters have signed a petition saying they will not travel the 3/4 hours !!!
I wasn't one ... I'll check it out first !!
Supporting both wasps and London for over 30 years has had me travelling all over the place !!!!
But it's all good.... Though how I miss wasps at Sudbury and Fulham rl at craven cottage !!!
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"
And why could Lenehgan not own us'"
Because the regulations sate that you can't own two clubs (conflict of interest) - they had to bend the rules for a bit as no-one was interested in buying his stake (wonder why? Shut up, Gutters!) Incidentally, the row over the Wasps move is deepening, with Worcester (currently spending a year visiting the poor relations before swapping with London Welsh) now asking questions about development areas, plus Coventry RFC aren't happy either - it's been a lead story on 'Midlands Today' all week.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"as a bloke that came to one game this season I never classed you as part of us anyhow '"
Oooooooh.....the clique has an inner-clique now does it? I reckon i clocked up more miles to get to games this hear than you have.......please let me one of the gang!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"My true colours
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Being patronising again. Will you ever be able to post without making it personal?
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"... the difference is they played rugby league, not playing at all would have achieved what for players confidence levels?'"
It wouldn't have achieved anything for their confidence levels, but would have enabled gutterfax to crow about how he was right, hence why he spends his entire time on here attacking anyone who continues to attend matches, or says anything remotely positive.
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| Perry I know, but it's fun winding him up and seeing what drivel, insults, personal attacks, and random numbers he can come up with.
It's ok he laid his stall out here in thinking we should have folded!
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| Quote ="Perry"Being patronising again. Will you ever be able to post without making it personal?'"
After my support for the team is questioned I am the one making it personal? lol......you are a tad precious aren't you......loops, there I go again
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"Perry I know, but it's fun winding him up and seeing what drivel, insults, personal attacks, and random numbers he can come up with.
It's ok he laid his stall out here in thinking we should have folded!'"
We are as good as gone in 2016......you're just to stupid to do the maths. Oops....another one
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| Any chance you guys can either set up dedicated threads the rest of us can ignore or take to using the PM system to wind each other up etc. A quick look at how few active posters we have these days suggests it might be widely appreciated.
A message board loses it's value when you have to wade through pages of people winding each other up to get at the facts
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Any chance you guys can either set up dedicated threads the rest of us can ignore or take to using the PM system to wind each other up etc. A quick look at how few active posters we have these days suggests it might be widely appreciated.
A message board loses it's value when you have to wade through pages of people winding each other up to get at the facts'"
A quick glance as to has just freely admitted to trying to wind me up will point you towards the cause. This thread is about our home and my posts in it are about our home........
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| As much as Id rather not discuss rah rah at all ever I don't see why we're comparing our situation to High Wycombe London Coventry W*sps.
Can you imagine the uproar if we were still in SL and moved to Sheffield while the Eagles were still there?!? RL fans would spontaneously combust all over the place, it's the dumbest thing ever.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"As much as Id rather not discuss rah rah at all ever I don't see why we're comparing our situation to High Wycombe London Coventry W*sps.
Can you imagine the uproar if we were still in SL and moved to Sheffield while the Eagles were still there?!? RL fans would spontaneously combust all over the place, it's the dumbest thing ever.'"
Quite possibly......much better to get moved along every couple of years, dropping fans by the bucketload and becoming even more Dependant on hughes......there's a much more sensible plan
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| When I think I've got problems in my life, I just read a post by Garbagefacts, it helps me put things in perspective and everything is hunky-dory again!!
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| Quote ="eastman"When I think I've got problems in my life, I just read a post by Garbagefacts, it helps me put things in perspective and everything is hunky-dory again!!'"
Simple cure for a simple person. you're welcome
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"As much as Id rather not discuss rah rah at all ever I don't see why we're comparing our situation to High Wycombe London Coventry W*sps.
Can you imagine the uproar if we were still in SL and moved to Sheffield while the Eagles were still there?!? RL fans would spontaneously combust all over the place, it's the dumbest thing ever.'"
To be fair, a number of RU fans are combusting over it.
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