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| Quote ="Niceaction"The reason the half time score was so reasonable was because we made very few mistakes and gave away very few penalties.
If Skee had started (and played for 60 minutes instead of 20), the number of knock on's, errors and interference at play the ball he would have committed would have been huge. This would have resulted in a cricket score against us.
Im not sure that any player would get any confidence from that at all!'"
and this is based on what ?
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| Quote ="SteveQuin"and this is based on what ?'"
Exactly...
I know if I was playing and the coach picked me to start i'd be able to take a proper grip on the game and play with confidence. I wouldn't be too impressed that a centre/winger who hasn't played in my position since 2004 was starting in front of me.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Exactly...
I know if I was playing and the coach picked me to start i'd be able to take a proper grip on the game and play with confidence. I wouldn't be too impressed that a centre/winger who hasn't played in my position since 2004 was starting in front of me.'"
Eh?? So, as a player who has never started a professional game, you wouldn't be too impressed that a seasoned professional and someone who has played a whole season at SO was picked ahead of you??
Skee knocked on and gave away a penalty in the time he was on the pitch. This isn't disputable. Are you suggesting that if he had started, he would have played better?
I dont want people to think I am having a go at Skee at all, because i'm not. But the fact is, the team would have made more mistakes with him starting and having more game time. This would have resulted in more try's against, which would have dented his confidence.
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| Thought will had a decent game
worked hard in defence and carried the ball a hell of a lot!!!!!
still think possibly Melling better in the FB position tho and will back out on the fringes
Have to say the T Bosc kick over pick up and second kick over pure magic!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Niceaction"Eh?? So, as a player who has never started a professional game, you wouldn't be too impressed that a seasoned professional and someone who has played a whole season at SO was picked ahead of you??
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I would not.
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Skee knocked on and gave away a penalty in the time he was on the pitch. This isn't disputable. Are you suggesting that if he had started, he would have played better?'"
So that is evidence he would have been poor if he would have started? Utter rubbish. There is a good chance if he would have started he would have played better yes, rather than playing with a battered team with their heads beginning to fall.
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I dont want people to think I am having a go at Skee at all, because i'm not. But the fact is, the team would have made more mistakes with him starting and having more game time. This would have resulted in more try's against, which would have dented his confidence.'"
Ridiculous statement.
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| Good to see your total lack of debating skills are lost on this thread as well as every other one.
Why do you continue to post on here? If someone disagrees with your point of view then they are in the wrong according to you.
You make sarcastic replies and offer nothing to back up what you've written.
I really do wonder what you get out of posting on here.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"He did indeed carry the ball very well and looked reasonably assured at FB. Bit greedy at times though.'"
which seems like a sensible strategy for him to employ until someone has helped him per your first post
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| Quote ="Niceaction"
I really do wonder what you get out of posting on here.'" COUPLE OF CLUES AS TO WHAT LISTY MAY GET FROM POSTING ON HERE...
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| Quote ="Niceaction"Good to see your total lack of debating skills are lost on this thread as well as every other one.
Why do you continue to post on here? If someone disagrees with your point of view then they are in the wrong according to you.
You make sarcastic replies and offer nothing to back up what you've written.
I really do wonder what you get out of posting on here.'"
I don't quite get what you are talking about, are you seriously saying that having Gafa at SO for the whole game was better than if we started with Skee there?
Skee knocked on once, and gave a penalty away.
Gafa continually missed tackles, twice they ran through him and scored.
I would of prefered a knock on, and a penalty given away then to have Gafa missing as many tackles as he seemed to do.
The only time he was noticeable in the whole game was when the Catalans players continueally ran all over him.
Very poor game by him, and i'd be extremely disappointed to ever see him play there again, tbh.
IMO of course.
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| Hindsight is a wonderful thing of course. Given the choice before the game as to start Gafa or Skee at SO, I would have chosen Gafa.
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| Quote ="Niceaction"Hindsight is a wonderful thing of course. Given the choice before the game as to start Gafa or Skee at SO, I would have chosen Gafa.'"
And I would have given Skee or Gigot their opportunity to play in a position they are familiar with - even if they have limited SL experience, and i think if you check my postings I said so before the game
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| I thought Will had a better game, and considering the stomach bug that "The Wigster" harped on about pre-match. Matt Gafa continues to disappoint, but playing in that position hardly helped him. The first half was a heroic effort, with some incredible defence - the tackle statistics - us making over 110 more tackles than them was incredible. Given the weather and the amount of tackles we were making, we needed to score the penalty before half-time, and then make a strong start. As soon as Catalans scored first in the 2nd half, it was always going to be too much for us. Overall, we did emerge with some credit. However, we have to get a win from somewhere - although one this coming Saturday looks increasingly unlikely.
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| Quote ="Niceaction"Good to see your total lack of debating skills are lost on this thread as well as every other one.
Why do you continue to post on here? If someone disagrees with your point of view then they are in the wrong according to you.
You make sarcastic replies and offer nothing to back up what you've written.
I really do wonder what you get out of posting on here.'"
You are so ironic its funny. You say I lack debating skills after i've posted various points which you obviously can't respond to.
Then you question why I continue to post on here - if someone disagrees with my point they are wrong - that is what debate is
I don't back up what I have written? Please remind me of your evidence that Skee would have had a bad game if he would have started
I get plenty out of posting on here when idiots like you reply
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| Quote ="Niceaction"Hindsight is a wonderful thing of course. Given the choice before the game as to start Gafa or Skee at SO, I would have chosen Gafa.'"
Join McDermott in the completely wrong club then
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| Quote ="tim791"I don't quite get what you are talking about, are you seriously saying that having Gafa at SO for the whole game was better than if we started with Skee there?
Skee knocked on once, and gave a penalty away.
Gafa continually missed tackles, twice they ran through him and scored.
I would of prefered a knock on, and a penalty given away then to have Gafa missing as many tackles as he seemed to do.
The only time he was noticeable in the whole game was when the Catalans players continueally ran all over him.
Very poor game by him, and i'd be extremely disappointed to ever see him play there again, tbh.
IMO of course.
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What is going on Tim? Yet another fantastic post I agree 100% with
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
You are so ironic its funny. You say I lack debating skills after i've posted various points which you obviously can't respond to.
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I agree, these were some intelligent comments from you...
Quote ="Dave Lister"I would not.
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Greg McNally, 2008
So that is evidence he would have been poor if he would have started? Utter rubbish. There is a good chance if he would have started he would have played better yes, rather than playing with a battered team with their heads beginning to fall.
Ridiculous statement.'"
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Then you question why I continue to post on here - if someone disagrees with my point they are wrong - that is what debate is
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A debate generally means a discussion. You rarely offer anything in this regard. The best you offer is a diatribe against the club, manager or player(s) against which you will not listen to any counter argument.... Because you are always right!
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I don't back up what I have written? Please remind me of your evidence that Skee would have had a bad game if he would have started
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I told you why I thought he would have had a bad game. Because, he didn't have the best of games having come on as sub! He made 2 of the teams 10 or so errors, despite only being on the field for 20 minutes. So if he had been on the field for 60 minutes, logic says he would have racked up a large majority of the teams errors.
Your thinking that he would have had a better game if he started is however not based on logic. It's based on nothing but your view of what [i might[/i have happened.
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I get plenty out of posting on here when idiots like you reply
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Once again you show your class by stooping to personal insults. Nice one!
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Do you even know what you are typing?
I offer my opinion on matters but you take it like its a "distrabe against the club, manager or player" - of course I will listen counter argument. Why do I bother responding to points you make? The only person here who can't enter a discussion is your goodself, bleating when there are posts that you don't like.
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| Quote ="Niceaction".
Your thinking that he would have had a better game if he started is however not based on logic. It's based on nothing but your view of what [imight[/i have happened.
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Its based on my opinion you blithering fool
Am I not allowed to have an opinion on what MIGHT have happened now? Shall we stop predicting how games will finish because it will rely on what MIGHT happen during the match?
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| And just out of interest, when you decide to post, do you do so in the belief that you are right, or do you decide to post content that you think is incorrect?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"And just out of interest, when you decide to post, do you do so in the belief that you are right, or do you decide to post content that you think is incorrect?
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When I decide to post?? Not sure what you mean there, but then I rarely do. A 3 post response to me though, blabbering on about nothing is pretty impressive if slightly sad.
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| Quote ="Niceaction"When I decide to post?? Not sure what you mean there, but then I rarely do. A 3 post response to me though, blabbering on about nothing is pretty impressive if slightly sad.'"
Alot of your posts on here is that if Skee had been playing from the start, he would of knocked on loads, gave loads of penalties away.
Does that classify as 'foresight' as you keep going on and on about this word saying we're using it. Yet, you are as well?
Maybe if Skee had started the game he would of had that confidence to not knock the ball on, not give a penalty away(which imo wasn't a penalty anyway).
And Dave, I should probably stop talking sense shouldn't I?
Stop agreeing with my posts.
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