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Can't make it myself but I really enjoyed it last year. Good beer, good game and great crack from the Keighley fans. Turn up in a Bradford shirt and see what happens.
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| Quote ="Mr Sheen"Can't make it myself but I really enjoyed it last year. Good beer, good game and great crack from the Keighley fans. Turn up in a Bradford shirt and see what happens.'"
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Couldn't give a hoot what Skolars are up to tbh. They have very different objectives to us, let them get on with things and we will go about our business too.
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| Quote ="Darthchris"Media coverage for a London league doubleheader on the weekend of the cup final would have been a lot more than either club would ever normally get.
That's one reason to have it.
another is the increased gate as a one of and the long term rub off of above on overall follow-up coverage.
two games for the price of one is always a good thing.
So is a beer festival.
It would also have helped skolars long term as it would have introduced them to the wider london rl community.'"
These may mostly be valid points though I'm not at all convinced by the last.
It's Skolars' preogative to keep their home game at their home ground, and I'm not convinced a 6pm kick off for their game against Keighley at The Stoop would have introduced them to many people other than northern neutrals arriving early for the cup final.
If they feel they're building long-term momentum with the pre-cup final Friday night home game who are we to tell them what's best for them? That's just a patronising "Guardian-reader" attitude. |
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i could be wrong but i think people like to come as they feel its grassroots. loads of fans from across SL make the effort and like the fact they can just enjoy the night as a neutral. i think as the game is so big teh day after they like the contrast. one of my concerns with wrapping around a SL game it woudl not have the same appeal.
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| Quote ="Elite Skolar"i could be wrong but i think people like to come as they feel its grassroots. loads of fans from across SL make the effort and like the fact they can just enjoy the night as a neutral. i think as the game is so big teh day after they like the contrast. one of my concerns with wrapping around a SL game it woudl not have the same appeal.'"
I fully appreciate and understand the reasons for keeping this as a skolars only event, I just think that a 1 off event would have raised the profile of both clubs. Quins would gain with increased coverage in the London Media, as would skolars. I also believe that Skolars would have received more revenue from the stoop.
That said, I am sure their friday night event will continue to grow and grow and wish them all the best (and if I can sneak out, I will be there!!!) |
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"These may mostly be valid points though I'm not at all convinced by the last.
It's Skolars' preogative to keep their home game at their home ground, and I'm not convinced a 6pm kick off for their game against Keighley at The Stoop would have introduced them to many people other than northern neutrals arriving early for the cup final.
If they feel they're building long-term momentum with the pre-cup final Friday night home game who are we to tell them what's best for them? That's just a patronising "Guardian-reader" attitude.'"
The northerners who live in London and would not have bothered/been introduced to skolars. rather than the northerners who live up north. |
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| Quote ="Elite Skolar"i could be wrong but i think people like to come as they feel its grassroots. loads of fans from across SL make the effort and like the fact they can just enjoy the night as a neutral. i think as the game is so big teh day after they like the contrast. one of my concerns with wrapping around a SL game it woudl not have the same appeal.'"
Agreed. It's a great formula that would be adulterated merely by taking it to the Stoop and further mashed by an SL game. Would be even better if the hot dog stall could speed up a bit. The Keighley fans last year were worried they wouldn't make the kick-off. Not the Skolars one, the Wembley one the day after. |
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| Quote ="joeo"Agreed. It's a great formula that would be adulterated merely by taking it to the Stoop and further mashed by an SL game. Would be even better if the hot dog stall could speed up a bit. The Keighley fans last year were worried they wouldn't make the kick-off. Not the Skolars one, the Wembley one the day after.'"
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With just over a week to go until the Challenge Cup semi finals, it's time to start making plans for your Wembley weekend! Friday Night Lights is the perfect start to the trip with live Championship 1 Rugby League between London Skolars and Keighley Cougars on Friday 28th August as an appetiser to the main event on the Saturday.
With Joe Mbu, Jack Graves, Rob Thomas and Jamie O'Callaghan turning out for the Skolars in recent weeks there is a fair chance that other future Quins stars will be playing in the Friday Night Lights event. What a great opportunity for Harlequins RL fans to see the future of their club in a carnival setting.
With a beer festival, an exhibition game between MPs and a London All Stars, food stalls and BBQ it’s a part of the weekend you don’t want to miss out on!
Advance adult tickets are £10 and concessions £6. For more information and to purchase tickets contact Paul Thorman on 020 8888 8488 or paulthorman@skolarsrl.com. |
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With just over a week to go until the Challenge Cup semi finals, it's time to start making plans for your Wembley weekend! Friday Night Lights is the perfect start to the trip with live Championship 1 Rugby League between London Skolars and Keighley Cougars on Friday 28th August as an appetiser to the main event on the Saturday.
With Joe Mbu, Jack Graves, Rob Thomas and Jamie O'Callaghan turning out for the Skolars in recent weeks there is a fair chance that other future Quins stars will be playing in the Friday Night Lights event. What a great opportunity for Harlequins RL fans to see the future of their club in a carnival setting.
With a beer festival, an exhibition game between MPs and a London All Stars, food stalls and BBQ it’s a part of the weekend you don’t want to miss out on!
Advance adult tickets are £10 and concessions £6. For more information and to purchase tickets contact Paul Thorman on 020 8888 8488 or paulthorman@skolarsrl.com. | |
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I can buy beer without paying £10 for the priv...
I can watch teams ship points like the Titanic for free
I can be patronised by a lot of things, but what I won't do is put up with a club that on one hand has fans who ridicule the idea of taking Quins reserve players on a more regular basis and then uses the same quins players to sell tickets to a dead event.
Good luck......but I really hope this event is the kick up the 'arris your management need to help them realise that their little empire is dead in the water. 46 points is the average difference between the Skolars and the opposition this year......enjoy!
And before anyone jumps on me.......sport is a business and the Skolars a prime example of not how to run a business in Sport. 300 fans........getting spanked every week and when offered an opportunity.....they turn it down on "principle"...
Roofs at HKR should get on with them.
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GF what will the [ifinal firework [/ibe like an hour before you get on that flight to the southern hemisphere!!!
That, even by your standards was cutting-Whats up was there no ox blood polish for the docs in the local shop this morning?
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| Quote ="wire-quin"GF what will the [ifinal firework [/ibe like an hour before you get on that flight to the southern hemisphere!!!
That, even by your standards was cutting-Whats up was there no ox blood polish for the docs in the local shop this morning?'"
Nope.....boots fine! The skolars though, when I posted about bouncing our reserves in, were less than complimentary..........and now they use the reserves to boost the BEST NIGHT IN LONDON RL
Sorry, but ef'em!
I have never claimed to have the answer, but have always offered a potential solution.........and when I suggested a combined night, I got shot down. I suspect the club had already thought of this (I would live to claim it but I can't) and yet Skolars still rejected it.......They are being mashed every week and whatever the turnout for the CC eve do, that is not good for the future of the game. Next time they are offered "help".....I would suggest they take it. If they don't, I would see Hemel Stags or South London Storm in the place at the drop of a hat.
As I have said......Sport is now a business. It's something we accepted along with our 3 year licence! |
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The perfect scenario. Gutters makes his fortune down under breeding Tasmanian devils or whatever they do down there. He comes back, buys the Skolars and gives the Quins a run for their money.
You read it here first.
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| Quote I can buy beer without paying £10 for the priv... '"
Unfortunately so can everyone else in London, and we charge £15.
Quote I can watch teams ship points like the Titanic for free '"
Yes - ours.
Skolars want to grow a their base in North London, fair enough. They want to use our reserves to strengthen their team, fair enough. It wasn't so long ago we needed a Leeds player (Liam Botham) to save our season, and we have a history of loan players - almost including a Skolars player (Rubert Jonkers), so we should be cutting slack, not cutting. |
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| Quote ="kit80"Unfortunately so can everyone else in London, and we charge £15.
Yes - ours.
Skolars want to grow a their base in North London, fair enough. They want to use our reserves to strengthen their team, fair enough. It wasn't so long ago we needed a Leeds player (Liam Botham) to save our season, and we have a history of loan players - almost including a Skolars player (Rubert Jonkers), so we should be cutting slack, not cutting.'"
also where do you think the reserves come from - Joe Mbu, Dennis Tuffor, Ade Adebesi and so on. err London Skolars |
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| Quote ="Elite Skolar"also where do you think the reserves come from - Joe Mbu, Dennis Tuffor, Ade Adebesi and so on. err London Skolars'"
Not the point ES. The point is that something has gone very wrong at Skolars this year. Very very wrong!
The Challenge Cup event will bring in some much needed revenue for the club and I do hope it goes well, but regardless of where some of our reserves came from I think it is very arrogant for the Skolars to believe that they are our main feeder club. Quins have scouts all over the SE and yes, I am sure that Skolars players are monitored from time to time, but by no stretch of anyones imagination are you the main feeder club.
Skolars need Quins more than Quins need Skolars.......and I will repeat, the reason for me having a pop was that I was shot down for suggesting that we loaned players to you to help out....and then the fact that a couple of our reserves are now running out for you is being used to market your event. I have no major quarrel with Skolars....but they have been badly managed this year IMO that is! |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I can buy beer without paying £10 for the priv...
I can watch teams ship points like the Titanic for free
I can be patronised by a lot of things, but what I won't do is put up with a club that on one hand has fans who ridicule the idea of taking Quins reserve players on a more regular basis and then uses the same quins players to sell tickets to a dead event.
Good luck......but I really hope this event is the kick up the 'arris your management need to help them realise that their little empire is dead in the water. 46 points is the average difference between the Skolars and the opposition this year......enjoy!
And before anyone jumps on me.......sport is a business and the Skolars a prime example of not how to run a business in Sport. 300 fans........getting spanked every week and when offered an opportunity.....they turn it down on "principle"...
Roofs at HKR should get on with them.'"
My view for what it's worth: It's people like Hector and co, who got off their backside and built a community-embedded club out of nothing, giving light to so many young kids in the process, who will make Rugby League a significant participation sport in London. GF, on the other hand, aside from a few whimsical marketing ideas, has so far delivered the square root of zero in terms of impact.
So what if Skolars are having to cut their clothes to suit their cloth a bit at the moment? They exist, and that is an achievement in itself. The arrogance of the idea that Skolars should change a long-established event to support their supposed senior partners just beggars belief. If the idea had merit, on balance, I'm sure they would have done it. Instead they looked at it, decided it didn't, and exercised free will... result? Sulking and bizzare anti-Skolars rants from people. FFS. |
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Bronco". GF, on the other hand, aside from a few whimsical marketing ideas, has so far delivered the square root of zero in terms of impact. '"
Agreed. I have come up with "whimsical" ideas that the club haven't tried and guess what, the untried ideas haven't worked. Brilliant!......but your point is? |
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Well said HKB.
Think you're wide of the mark on this one Gutters.
We're planning to be there anyway (even though it means venturing in to the wrong side of London!)
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Agreed. I have come up with "whimsical" ideas that the club haven't tried and guess what, the untried ideas haven't worked. Brilliant!......but your point is?'"
My point is very simple:
(1) Stop sulking because Skolars have made a decision you don't like
(2) The management team of Skolars have done more to promote our game (and help keep kids off the streets in the process) than you or most people on here, so they have earnt the right to make such a decision many times over.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Bronco"My point is very simple:
(1) Stop sulking because Skolars have made a decision you don't like
(2) The management team of Skolars have done more to promote our game (and help keep kids off the streets in the process) than you or most people on here, so they have earnt the right to make such a decision many times over.
It is called respect.'"
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| Quote ="Dan Stains woz God"Well said HKB.
Think you're wide of the mark on this one Gutters.
We're planning to be there anyway (even though it means venturing in to the wrong side of London!)'" ...I was bought up on the wild and windy streets of Shepherds Bush ,then moved to Hanworth (Better class of Chav ,very near to Feltham) so I should not have much fear about travelling across London..but that walk from the station to Skolars makes me very uncomfortble indeed...  |
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Personally speaking I am really disappointed that the game is not a double header and not at the stoop - mind you im also disappointed that I've only got one willy -
Skolars stadium is a hole at the rear end of London and a doubleheader the day after the cup final would have been a great party.
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