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| Yes... I asked about the new training ground and as PC Plum says it has been sorted but the player I asked wasn't allowed to say where it is - not that it really matters. The strangest thing I've found, and it was the case last season too, is that there was and will still be ZERO training on The Hive pitch itself. Many of the new lads have yet to see our home ground in the flesh!! The only positive about the new training ground is that the dimensions are identical to that of The Hive which wasn't the case at Underhill.
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Yes... I asked about the new training ground and as PC Plum says it has been sorted but the player I asked wasn't allowed to say where it is - not that it really matters. The strangest thing I've found, and it was the case last season too, is that there was and will still be ZERO training on The Hive pitch itself. Many of the new lads have yet to see our home ground in the flesh!! The only positive about the new training ground is that the dimensions are identical to that of The Hive which wasn't the case at Underhill.'"
all the pitches in the hive complex are the same size.....it doesn't take einstein to figure out that we will train on one of them.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...different from 2014's though and we're office-less at present it would seem..'"
I should've responded to this claim previously but couldn't be bothered.
My original post was regarding where Broncos would train and not claiming they where office-less. Let me explain.
As you can imagine Underhill is comprised of several buildings.
1. Pavilion
Currently Broncos fitness gym and on land owned by the council adjacent to Underhill stadium and behind the Durham Suite. Not part of any sale.
2. Durham Suite
Fairly modern brick built offices and conference facility in the South west corner of the ground. Has separate access from the rest of the stadium via an access road. This may\may not be part of the sale, but if it is then it is likely to be retained in any future development and usable while development progresses.
3. South Stand
Modern 6 year old demountable stand adjacent to durham suite that Broncos currently use the internal space and existing plans are for it to be moved to the Hive to become the North stand once approved.
4. Main stand
Old and full of asbestos, requiring specialist work to dismantle
5. Other Buildings
North & North west turnstyles, East terrace and family stand are all unused. All will need demolishing to make way for whatever is built.
Hopefully this gives you enough to see that the buildings that will need to be demolished are not the buildings in use by the Broncos as office space. Yes I think they will need to move at the point planning has been approved and the South stand is taken down by, but that is not now. If demolition work is to commence then I suspect it will be to remove turnstyles and start dismantling the main stand
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| Quote ="meliferra"I should've responded to this claim previously but couldn't be bothered.
My original post was regarding where Broncos would train and not claiming they where office-less. Let me explain.
As you can imagine Underhill is comprised of several buildings.
1. Pavilion
Currently Broncos fitness gym and on land owned by the council adjacent to Underhill stadium and behind the Durham Suite. Not part of any sale.
2. Durham Suite
Fairly modern brick built offices and conference facility in the South west corner of the ground. Has separate access from the rest of the stadium via an access road. This may\may not be part of the sale, but if it is then it is likely to be retained in any future development and usable while development progresses.
3. South Stand
Modern 6 year old demountable stand adjacent to durham suite that Broncos currently use the internal space and existing plans are for it to be moved to the Hive to become the North stand once approved.
4. Main stand
Old and full of asbestos, requiring specialist work to dismantle
5. Other Buildings
North & North west turnstyles, East terrace and family stand are all unused. All will need demolishing to make way for whatever is built.
Hopefully this gives you enough to see that the buildings that will need to be demolished are not the buildings in use by the Broncos as office space. Yes I think they will need to move at the point planning has been approved and the South stand is taken down by, but that is not now. If demolition work is to commence then I suspect it will be to remove turnstyles and start dismantling the main stand'"
So we could stay there whilst everything is dismantled or demolished around us?
It's like gus never left!!!!!
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Yes... I asked about the new training ground and as PC Plum says it has been sorted but the player I asked wasn't allowed to say where it is - not that it really matters. The strangest thing I've found, and it was the case last season too, is that there was and will still be ZERO training on The Hive pitch itself. Many of the new lads have yet to see our home ground in the flesh!! The only positive about the new training ground is that the dimensions are identical to that of The Hive which wasn't the case at Underhill.'"
The player I was chatting to let the cat out of the bag, and so, respecting the clubs position I will say no more, but suffice to say, the venue is sorted and we will be there soon.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...different from 2014's though and we're office-less at present it would seem.
..indeed, but exact financials still to be confirmed by the club.
Harold Shipman and Charles Manson would have been an improvement on MacKay and let's not forget, Hughes is still "lurking"....and this team have no office to call their own apparently.
...lol.....really, personality and spirit? I'd rather they were all pig ignorant but could play at the highest level....
Whilst I like the Kit, it's still not in the shop and it has that god awful blue badge on it. I'm not as easily pleased as you it would seem.....
Yep...and I think these ones (some of them anyway) might be paying for the honour.
The ability to relay information through the website and social media is a basic function of anyone who wishes to engage with their customers. Feel free to get a hard on for it, but I won't be applauding getting the basics right.
Nope....it's an improvement, but nowhere near GREAT.
It may have escaped your attention, but we have less fans than we've seen in 19 seasons, are preparing to play in a division below the one we used to and are still tenants beholding to a landlord and a single benefactor. Our replica kits will again not be in the shop for xmas, which is a key selling period as identified by the other 23 teams in the 2 top tiers, our ticketing for next season is still to be confirmed and if we are truly planning for the future, then we have little in place that points to us having found a home, but yet again, a venue that is already chopping and changing the terms of our being there.'"
To be honest GF all your points are valid but frankly (and maybe I am easily pleased), I dont care. We are were we are, they are finally giving it a go, history is history (learn and move forward), I sense a real good vibe (I might imagine it), the players, organisation, engagement yesterday was first class, there are still issues, but this time last year .....
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| Sounds like everything was being packed to move last week. Not yet convinced they are off to the Hive.
I'm sure we will find out soon enough. Either way I very much doubt they are officeless
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| Can't be bothered creating a new thread.
Just to say planning permission to complete the Hive has now been granted.
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| Quote ="meliferra"Can't be bothered creating a new thread.
Just to say planning permission to complete the Hive has now been granted.'"
Cheers Mel. What are the full plans?
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Here's a direct link to the plan showing the rear west stand extension and replacing the North Terrace with the seated stand from Underhill.
www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... nt=obj.pdf
I'm confident that further improvements will be applied for but for now all the outstanding planning issues have been resolved.
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Here's a direct link to the plan showing the rear west stand extension and replacing the North Terrace with the seated stand from Underhill.
www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... nt=obj.pdf
I'm confident that further improvements will be applied for but for now all the outstanding planning issues have been resolved.
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Quote ="meliferra"Here's a direct link to the plan showing the rear west stand extension and replacing the North Terrace with the seated stand from Underhill.
www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... nt=obj.pdf
I'm confident that further improvements will be applied for but for now all the outstanding planning issues have been resolved.'"
What will the capacity be with the new stand in place?
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www.harrow.gov.uk/planningsearch ... nt=obj.pdf
I'm confident that further improvements will be applied for but for now all the outstanding planning issues have been resolved.'"
What will the capacity be with the new stand in place?
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| The current capacity is 5500 which is capped to 5100, after the changes the capacity will be nearer 6000 but still capped to 5100. If the cap became an issue then an application with impact assessment reports would need to be made.
The canopy at the rear of the west stand is complete but it is clearly doubles up as the supports for adding the first floor of the rear extension (It is far too solid and has way too many wires to be just a simple canopy). This was put in during the fortnight mid December when we had no home games. After New years day we have no home games for 24 days so my guess is more work will take place then.
I notice the Bronco web site now has their offices as located at the Hive. Not sure where in the Hive as there was nothing visible last weekend.
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| Cheers for all the info meliferra, quality as usual.
Shame gutterlies has to question it's accuracy from 12,000 miles away.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"New training venue sorted, playing venue sorted, off field staff greatly improved, on field personel greatly improved in personality and spirit, kit brilliant, sponsors and partners sorted, fans more engaged, so on the whole a great improvement.'"
It' the most positive I've felt pre-season for a good few years.
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| Quote ="Perry"Cheers for all the info meliferra, quality as usual.
Shame gutterlies has to question it's accuracy from 12,000 miles away.'"
Where did I question its accuracy? I asked about the capacity......how very strange to accuse me of lying when I asked a question?
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| Quote ="gutterlies"Where did I question its accuracy? I asked about the capacity......how very strange to accuse me of lying when I asked a question?'"
Asked a question, and banged on about the past, and called stuff into question. New year, same old drone from you.
You could have just thanked meliferra for keeping us all posted.
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| Not sure that any of the plans suggested lengthening of the pitch for rugby league. So same short pitch for the future.
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| Quote ="Perry"Asked a question, and banged on about the past, and called stuff into question. New year, same old drone from you.
You could have just thanked meliferra for keeping us all posted.'"
I asked a question......pure and simple. Anyhow....ticket info out in a few hours....cant wait. Planning another trip home so will look to catch a game if the price is right!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"....ticket info out in a few hours....cant wait. Planning another trip home so will look to catch a game if the price is right!'"
Really? The price of a match ticket is more important to you than the cost of a 12,000 mile flight?
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| Quote ="Perry"Really? The price of a match ticket is more important to you than the cost of a 12,000 mile flight?'"
I claim my flights back against the company....tickets to a game are only 50% redeemable.
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Not sure that any of the plans suggested lengthening of the pitch for rugby league. So same short pitch for the future.'"
You are correct SR, the pitch will certainly be short for this season.
All of the decisions that have been approved are from plans submitted two years ago and so long before there was a suggestion of Broncos coming. He has been waiting for all the previous planning issues to be resolved before submitting new ones.
It will be interesting to see what he applies for next. I have been told that it will be an extended West stand, new north stand behind the North terrace and changes to the East stand to extend towards the car park and put a decent roof in place for the seats on that side.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I claim my flights back against the company....tickets to a game are only 50% redeemable.'"
You'd probably claim for a duckpond if you could.
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| Quote ="Perry"You'd probably claim for a duckpond if you could.'"
Too right I would.
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