We don't have a team or ground though.

Or maybe AK is the investor and he's just making it clear to the RFL that he has other options if they don't get a move on. That's how I read it.

As a Barnet fan as well as a Broncos fan, this would be the dream move for me. One thing I can assure you though is that TK is no knob. He is a shrewd business man who is a passionate sports fan. He fought with the Tory council for many years and pumedp countless hundreds of thousands into BFC for little reward. He does not suffer fools gadly as you can tell. He has turned the Hive into one of the best sporting complex in London and needs to ensure it remains economically viable. SAdly at the moment a netball team may be a better proposition!

Come on you Broncos Bees!!

What people here are forgetting with regard to Bradford is that the RFL have lumbered themselves with Odsal, so if the Bulls go under what do they do with it?

For once I agree with you, and I don't like others blame Ian Leneghan, his action and the others is essential for the elite part of our game to stop the rot that has been allowed for far too long.

The RFL have spent a lot of time on Bradford, it was kept low key in the media on Tuesday night, that they have not accepted the new co-owner of Bradford and barred him due to his records on previous companies, a really dubious history, but why did they announce in the typical triumphant RFL way his arrival a few weeks before, why was his background not checked out first? typical ham handed senior RFL management.

The sponsorship that The Hive announced yesterday with Toshiba Medical is superb and after watching the press conference on YouTube impresses, why are we and the RFL not tapping into this.

If we see no action from The RFL I would like to see one of the national media do a real in depth investigation into what is and has gone on in recent months with the London Club, the day of Wembley and the World Cup semi final or The Final. I just worry that Ian Lenegan and the six may back down, if so the RFL will continue to be run like amateur time!

With Barnet's first team playing at The Hive and a Woman's side being formed to play there, that cannot leave much space in the calendar for any other sport and with two teams playing Football there, would you want a third side playing on the same pitch? I certainly wouldn't if I were involved with Barnet but I suppose that would be outweighed by a new source of income.

Or perhaps a pitch like Widnes have, and it can be used all year no problem!

Dont we play in the summer?

3 teams on one pitch is no big deal if its managed correctly. There are no big stands to prevent the sun getting at the grass.

Artificial pitches aren't allowed at any level of football from Conference North/South upwards.

Yes correct at present, but at the end of May this year "3G4US" was formed by 50 lower league clubs from The Premiership to campaign for the use of 3G pitches due to the loss of games last season. Interesting to see Cardiff Blues are looking at 4G as well for Cardiff Arms Park to follow the success of Saracens at Allianz Park.

Three teams at the City of Salford Stadium. Salford, Sale and Man Utd under 21s and academy.
Leyther_Matt didn't Leigh, Swinton and Blackburn under 21s all play at the Sports Village last season.

So you want a penniless non-league football club to spend out a minimum of 40k so your club can play there? I can't see it making any good business sense to do that.

I believe that Women's Football takes place in the Summer so Barnet's ladies would be playing throughout the summer and with Barnet back on it in August and playing through winter, I can't see how it would be good for Barnet, as they're the main priority here, to rent their ground out to a third club.

However, Barnet aren't an orthodox club. They currently have a manager in charge that has made himself captain, given himself the number one shirt, doesn't bother going to northern away games and regularly flies out of the country with no notice, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Broncos there.

The Salford stadium doesn't have regular Man United U21 games and neither does Leigh's.

One of the clubs campaigning hard for artificial pitches is Maidstone, aren't they in the Isthmian League? for some clubs it is being able to play mostly when fixtures are planned, rather than a midweek rearrangement! It allows all the club's lower team games to be played there as well, but as I said 50 lower league clubs want these pitches.

Yes they did, and will do next year as well I think.

The FA won't allow these, the 50 teams you believe want them (as a Football fan of a lower league team, I have heard nothing about what you say) have no power unless the FA change their mind but I have seen nothing to suggest they will.

I know they're allowed in Scotland but that hasn't stopped games being postponed as ice freezes on these surfaces in big, thick sheets making it unsafe to play on.

The main reason smaller clubs want these pitches is that they can rent them out left, right and centre unlike a traditional pitch. Not only do you get pitch hire fees but your bar take goes up. Having watched a game at Maidstone I have no real objection to them in terms of quality.

I expect the FA will back down at some point, not just yet though. They are a game changer for lower level sports teams if run properly.

Yes and so is women's super league football.

In any ensuing confusion we might even scrape the odd win or two.

Quote ="Moe Lester"The FA won't allow these, the 50 teams you believe want them (as a Football fan of a lower league team, I have heard nothing about what you say) have no power unless the FA change their mind but I have seen nothing to suggest they will.'" You say Moe you have never heard of the campaign, well I have and I support a Premiership team, 50 clubs are a lot to start a campaign, which may grow. As Halfdan of t'wide embrace states, lower league clubs need to maximise every income flow they can find, use of it regular and bar takings mean a lot when you may struggle. The FA may be wary at first, but I would never say they won't allow it. https://twitter.com/3G4US

Quote ="Moe Lester"The FA won't allow these, the 50 teams you believe want them (as a Football fan of a lower league team, I have heard nothing about what you say) have no power unless the FA change their mind but I have seen nothing to suggest they will.'" You say Moe you have never heard of the campaign, well I have and I support a Premiership team, 50 clubs are a lot to start a campaign, which may grow. As Halfdan of t'wide embrace states, lower league clubs need to maximise every income flow they can find, use of it regular and bar takings mean a lot when you may struggle. The FA may be wary at first, but I would never say they won't allow it. https://twitter.com/3G4US

Moe you are wrong about Man Utd at Barton they have played all their under 21 champions league games at Barton and are scheduled to play under 18 games in fact the only games not played are those that clash with Salford/Sale fixtures or those the FA say have to be at O T
Ps on the amount of games in the pitch Salford also
play all their academy gsmes at Barton.

Quote ="jaybs"You say Moe you have never heard of the campaign, well I have and I support a Premiership team, 50 clubs are a lot to start a campaign, which may grow. As Halfdan of t'wide embrace states, lower league clubs need to maximise every income flow they can find, use of it regular and bar takings mean a lot when you may struggle. The FA may be wary at first, but I would never say they won't allow it. https://twitter.com/3G4US'" Let's be honest, you're lying. You're not telling anything that is the truth but clutching at straws in the blind hope that something will come off for your benefit. There is no such campaign that involves 50 Football League sides as a quick Google search will tell you. Yes, what you say about income is correct but I believe that Barnet's The Hive facilities already has a 4G pitch there so they have that as a source of income. As for that Twitter page, it's laughable that you'd use that to back your lies up. If there was such a campaign they'd have more followers than that.

Quote ="jaybs"You say Moe you have never heard of the campaign, well I have and I support a Premiership team, 50 clubs are a lot to start a campaign, which may grow. As Halfdan of t'wide embrace states, lower league clubs need to maximise every income flow they can find, use of it regular and bar takings mean a lot when you may struggle. The FA may be wary at first, but I would never say they won't allow it. https://twitter.com/3G4US'" Let's be honest, you're lying. You're not telling anything that is the truth but clutching at straws in the blind hope that something will come off for your benefit. There is no such campaign that involves 50 Football League sides as a quick Google search will tell you. Yes, what you say about income is correct but I believe that Barnet's The Hive facilities already has a 4G pitch there so they have that as a source of income. As for that Twitter page, it's laughable that you'd use that to back your lies up. If there was such a campaign they'd have more followers than that.

Quote ="Moe Lester"Let's be honest, you're lying. You're not telling anything that is the truth but clutching at straws in the blind hope that something will come off for your benefit. There is no such campaign that involves 50 Football League sides as a quick Google search will tell you. As for that Twitter page, it's laughable that you'd use that to back your lies up. If there was such a campaign they'd have more followers than that.'" Oh dear Moe, is that not a little strong or over the top accusing me of "your'e lying" and "You're not telling anything that is the truth" I have a friend who works with Maidstone United, who first told me. www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/3g4us/

Quote ="Moe Lester"Let's be honest, you're lying. You're not telling anything that is the truth but clutching at straws in the blind hope that something will come off for your benefit. There is no such campaign that involves 50 Football League sides as a quick Google search will tell you. As for that Twitter page, it's laughable that you'd use that to back your lies up. If there was such a campaign they'd have more followers than that.'" Oh dear Moe, is that not a little strong or over the top accusing me of "your'e lying" and "You're not telling anything that is the truth" I have a friend who works with Maidstone United, who first told me. www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/3g4us/

First time I've seen the Hive on tv as Barnet FC being shown, the facilities look fantastic.

Surely, the issue of how much use is made of the main pitch is up to the stadium owners. Three teams one, ( the hosts) a soccer team a pro Rugby league team and a ladies football team is not terribly excessive. Salford, wigan, Hull FC seem to cope to name a few clubs. And why this attack on JAYBS? A bigger issue for Barnet surely is to strike a deal with the RFL over concessions because running a pro Rugby League Club is incredibly expensive. Especially one with a tiny fan base and almost zero players and no sensible backers and a useless CEO!!!!! To call the poster a liar MOE is imo out of order. Does this forum self moderate? Whoosh!!!!!!!!!