How have they managed this, and what was the price? the RL owned the freehold didnt they?

No, the freehold of Odsal is owned by the local council, the RFL bought the lease and sub-let to the Bulls. As far as us buying land, back in the eighties freehold land for development in West London was over £1million per acre - not very feasible!

They say the is the council who are driving the deal to sell the freehold, to release cash, deal should be done later this year.
As for buying in he Eighties, West London was not the only option, there were cheaper areas.

Quote ="mickyb1234"Tend to agree with bronc, but if Melf has other information then would be interested to know to who. As I say information that I have is "the club" has no debt, as for Mr hughes I don't know is it viewed as one and the same? I suppose it depends if any new owners would have to take on that figure.'" https://companycheck.co.uk/company/0532 ... l-accounts

Quote ="mickyb1234"Tend to agree with bronc, but if Melf has other information then would be interested to know to who. As I say information that I have is "the club" has no debt, as for Mr hughes I don't know is it viewed as one and the same? I suppose it depends if any new owners would have to take on that figure.'" https://companycheck.co.uk/company/0532 ... l-accounts

Very illuminating. Thanks for that. Comment is superfluous.

is this a case of wishful thinking or sour grapes or a bit of both?..........

Not wishful thinking at all, or sour grapes just a realistic view of the amount of money being spent on signings and wondering if it can be sustained.

Quote ="mickyb1234"Not wishful thinking at all, or sour grapes just a realistic view of the amount of money being spent on signings and wondering if it can be sustained.'" Take a look at Leigh's crowds and compare to ours www.leighcenturions.com/team/fixtures

Quote ="mickyb1234"Not wishful thinking at all, or sour grapes just a realistic view of the amount of money being spent on signings and wondering if it can be sustained.'" Take a look at Leigh's crowds and compare to ours www.leighcenturions.com/team/fixtures

Nobody could deny that our crowds were poor last season.

Quote ="jbuzza"Take a look at Leigh's crowds and compare to ours www.leighcenturions.com/team/fixtures'" What has attendances got to do with it? should Huddersfield not be allowed to spend because they only get 5,000 attendances? Leigh have mow signed a player from Catalan, they must be up to their newly negotiated higher cap, funny one month ago we were refused extra cap for accommodation cost differences? in London and North.

Quote ="jbuzza"Take a look at Leigh's crowds and compare to ours www.leighcenturions.com/team/fixtures'" What has attendances got to do with it? should Huddersfield not be allowed to spend because they only get 5,000 attendances? Leigh have mow signed a player from Catalan, they must be up to their newly negotiated higher cap, funny one month ago we were refused extra cap for accommodation cost differences? in London and North.

Jaybs was not me that brought up Leigh I was just commenting on someone else's post and suggestion that it was sour grapes on our part far from it. In reality comparing our crowd numbers the last couple of years actually has no meaning as we didn't get the gate receipts from Barnet. I suppose that means we were not liable for any tax on the gate receipts so should not fall foul there.
The alarm bells do ring a little bit when you see the signings that Leigh have made and the salary cap increase, personally I hope they are stable, I don't want to see any club in difficulties

Started off poor by the end they were virtually non-existent.

Quite a lot, if you want ensure financial viability of a club.

You seem blinkered to our club's though.

Ah, the peddling of the great lie. Unless you're on here, slagging the club off at every available opportunity (without suggesting any concrete alternative) you're blinkered to the Club's plight.

Complete and utter rubbish.

Is it a Great Lie though?

There was a time (not that long ago) when jaybs was the lone voice of apology.

Now it's like a chorus where David Hughes is given a virtual Get out of Jail free card because he puts a team out on the park.

Literally in his case.

See you never responded to my Huddersfield attendance problems, remember it was only a short while since they were top of Super League, they survive with a chairman who has pumped in a lot of personal money, and this is the birth place of the sport, take away Leeds, wonder how many clubs attendances pay the bills? Wigan, Hull, Warrington, they may be all close. Look at Championship clubs, how many pay their way from attendances.

The great lie repeated. Believe it or not I did actually note that attendances in the last couple of years may have fallen short of the 15,000 who saw Fulham play Wakefield at Craven Cottage. Believe or not I did note that we were playing Batley instead of Brisbane last year - despite the similarity in the kit!

There is not one person who doesn't recognise that this club has been poorly run and is a pale shadow of the team from 1997. Guess what - I'm going to watch them anyway.

I love this sport, and I love my team.

Well said Andover Boy

So you don't think attracting a crowd is important in terms of financial viability ? You would rather we be dependent on a chairman to fund a club ? The problem is when your chairman doesn't know how to run a club you end up in an increasingly big hole.

That's what most folk don't seem to get Andover boy. I am with you, some folk cannot understand that. How not going helps improve the situation is beyond me. The facts are quite simple, until I win the euro millions I cannot do nothing to change the situation apart from go through the gate of not, I quite like my nose so I ain't cutting it off to spite my face. Every other poster on here is in the same boat, reality is there us very little any of us can do to change it. Facts are facts at the moment Mr hughes walks we fold, Salford Mr kougash walks quite likely they fold, Mr Green at Bradford Huddersfield Wakefield leigh do I need to go on?
But tgey all keep going one way or another, why? Because those owner financiers hang around. It means I get to watch the sport I love though.
Does not make me an apologist or a deluded few, makes me a fan of the club who wants to encourage those 17 blokes every week.

The club will evolve in whichever way it evolves, don't forget tho Wigan were runners up to York in div 2 many years back, Wigan seem to do OK, and hey York are still around, there fans never gave up

Where do they play, didn't they? What numbers do they get now compared to then, equally Wigan. 1982 is different to the SL era(Leigh were in the top Div!!). We are now living in a very different commercial environment.

Its good that people like you stick it through Mickey. For me I like to watch the best week in week out, rightly or wrongly. I like the crowds, the atmosphere, the buzz, the anticipation, great players showing threr skills of, great moves, great tackles, high speed defence and attack.................

I can watch local rugby and get the same buzz as watching the current Broncos team. Similarities being both play on a back field with just a few fans.

Don't take that as a criticism.

Well Said Andover Boy! just think if all the clubs who have struggled in Rugby League their fans were so negative, there would be No RFL today, including Super League Clubs.