That is completely correct, that is why it is the best system, people would like to see relegation & promotion to return but in out sport currently how would clubs promoted survive. We think we have problems with the review today Bradford Bulls announce that their position is worse than predicted, they now admit they need $1.25 million just to survive to the end of the year! I do feel David Hughes and Gus should have set a period for the review and then kept to it.

This season would at least be interesting with relegation at stake. Our games our currently pretty pointless (no pun intended).

Sogs is right, imo.

Re the "Review", wonder if there actually is one? Could it be that the powers that be came up with this in response to pressure from the fans (and maybe to quiet those grumbling about us on Sky and in the media?) Guess it looks like we are trying to address the issues...

A review just involving Gus and DH is pretty pointless, imo.

I hade e-mail from Gus: [iReview is in progress and will complete as soon as we can.[/i

I am not impressed with the review done on the Bulls in that case, it may just be better to stick to Gus and David's 'back of envelope, kitchen table' review!

If Bulls go into Administration what does it matter in SL terms - just a points deduction?

The CEO is responsible for the overall running of the club. He went on record as saying that he would like to see us commercially viable with 10,000 attendances........nobody forced him to say this.
I repeat.....a winning team would of course help, but the opening round attendance was nothing short of a disgrace.....yes, a hammering at Wire was not ideal, but a closer game at Hull was followed by a sub 2k gate.............
Yes, attendances are not the be all.....but they do = both ticket sale revenue, residual revenue and make us more attractive to sponsors...... It is a point I have religiously banged on about since 2002 and I will continue to do so.
Licences are up for renewal in about 20 or so home games time........the club has wasted nearly 1 million pounds in wages of ex cricket and tennis admin staff...these people, including Gus, have presided over the consistant decline of the club in every aspect.
To sell something, you must understand and believe in it..........I have no doubt the belief might initially be there, but that's about it IMO!

As a manager I always look for the staff member with enthusiasm and passion, knowledge is always a benefit but without the first 2 traits you are going to struggle.

A winning team will always help but just to shed a light on what Gutters is always trying to get through to the club. Back in 96 / 97 in what I believe to be some of our most succesful times, it wasn't just a winning team that got us the support we had then. The owner Barry Maranta was a workhorse and tough task master. He was a friend of Rupert Murdoch and was on the phone all day everyday trying to get the papers interested in stories about the club and I mean anything ! Gavin Allen wrestling crocs, The Scud keeping fit by wrestling Cattle (hell I even got the job of finding a cow in London for him to wrestle for a photoshoot for the Sun). If Barry wanted a meeting you were expected to be at his appartment in Knighstbridge at 7am so as it didn't disturb your day duties. We also gave away cars, holidays to Australia, did leaflet and poster runs in the local area. He gave away a box a game to the local business that brought the most staff to a game etc. He invited local pub landlords down to try and get them to support the team. There were planning meetings with Fosters etc to formulate business plans, strap lines etc. Remember the slogan " See the excitement feel the passion" ? This was used on every bit of marketing for 2 yrs to try and build the brand. We used it in papers, on transport and anything else we could think of. So as you can see, these elements were put into place long before we knew the team would be winning.

wow, I met him just once, but he was 100% RL, he once went to Charlton FC and said how boring soccer was. Passionate man with big ideas, ran out of steam and out of money!

Honestly never knew any of this....I reckon me and him would have got on like a house on fire

PR only works when the product is any good otherwise you're selling a lie.

You can't polish a turd and the club's e

Simon......the point is that even if we were winning, the people tasked with "selling us" weren't up to the job.....we didn't know we were when St Helens came down...we got an average crowd....3 weeks later we had 3k less.....that's a disgrace and points to them not knowing what they are doing.

Sorry mate, you are right. I'm just so angry. I want to take my kids to something I loved before they were born and they dont want to go and see the Broncos slaughtered again. Upsets me so very much.

In the 90's and early noughties we were special - now we're an embarrassment.

Yes maybe although for what it is I have sent off a long email to the CEO with my own view on the situation.

Your not the last.I can assure you .

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Has anyone ever considered that the "review" never really existed? Ask yourself this, by hearing the club say it will be launching a review, did that make you feel that something was being done? Exactly. If there was a review then all that came from it was the sacking of two members of staff who's jobs were nigh on impossible given the lack of funds at the club. If there WAS a review, do you not think we would have heard something by now? If there WAS a review then do you not think that we would have seen something change on or off the pitch? I know we all live in hope that something might have been done to halt the collapse of the club but I think it is time to be realistic. There never WAS a review and NOTHING will change this year. Yet another tranisition season only I fear by the time next year comes around, crowds will dip below 1000 and the future will be very bleak.

Im trying to remain optimistic and that we have the next coach lined up and Towel is just biding time until the axe falls come end of contract time as DH wants to let him go with a clean cv. The ultra optimistic in me thinks maybe the new coach could even be pulling the strings with Bailey and setting things up for next season.
Not sure i like the alternatives.

I find it implausible that the club has not concluded the review given that it was announced to us over three games ago and I am sure things had started already given the departure of two staff plus signing of Bailey which happened shortly after it.

If you look at, we can safely assume that Hughes and Mackay are not reviewing themselves. That leaves only a handful of people in the frame. Powell, Tawhai and Howell, perhaps Massara and Phil Jones also, the strength and conditioning guy Paul Watson, the two physiotherapists plus the back office staff. Then there are the players but obviously only about 5 players are out of contract so there is not much mileage there. So not many people to deal with really. This wouldn't take long.

I reckon Powell has been promised a new role in the set up, this will be something that sounds important maybe something like Sporting Director of Youth Development, keeping him on the payroll.

It wouldn't surprise me if the secretive nature of the people involved ensures that this bad news is hidden from supporters.

They are probably praying for a win and then will announce the news I think.

so no news until 2013 then



The club don't care what the supporters think.....under David Hughes they have never cared. He rules the club with an Iron fist and he is 100% entitled to, but the failure to address problems both on and ofgf the park mean that when he goes......and he will do eventually, there will be no interested parties to take his place.
Sub 2k gate v Widnes IMO....

I think David Hughes does care a hell of a lot which makes it all the more difficult to understand why he hasn't replaced Powell. Appointing Powell was always a huge risk and a major weakness in the master plan to build a competitive squad, rebrand and grow the crowds. It should have been obvious last season that a more experienced coach was needed and we should never have got into the position where this season was a write off. I really can't see what can be done other than sack the coach. The players may be underperforming but it is harder to replace them and and the end of the day it is the coach's job to get the most out of them. The Rob Powell experiment is killing the club and I really don't understand why David Hughes cannot see that.

Not sure anyone can understand or even defend why the review is taking so long! only answer still no one to take over but would it not be better putting someone like Gower in charge, unless he has said no, just temporary?

With Powell being appointed against the advice of the RFL and now this seeming non-review, David Hughes seems to be demonstrating the bloody-minded 'I know better than anyone else' attitude that so blighted the club when Roy 'if I don't get my own way I'm shutting it down' Close was owner. The move back to Crystal Palace which nearly finished us off was also against RFL advice!