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| Gus has already said that London Broncos has got to be in SL or nothing.
This club couldn't function as a Championship club...it just looks that way on the pitch!
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| It just seems like a club being run down! there is not the heart or spirit in it currently, we have knock backs, we have had many previous moves, all which I blame the RFL for is they were willing to buy Odsal to Save Bradford, then back when we first left Fulham why did the not put in some investment, looked for grants which were around then and purchased land and built a RL Community Stadium?
We should have realised that the Rugby Football League could never take expansion serious, look what they did to Gateshead to ensure that Hull could survive? and then the same with Sheffield to do the same for Huddersfield with their licence? and how far have Huddersfield progressed? they have found success on the pitch bit off it attendance have dropped! to think this is the home of rugby league? Sheffield Eagles are now attracting attendance much better than many well established Northern Clubs and those in Cumbria.
If we are kicked out of Super League, then it is the end, it will be then interesting to see what happens to the Skolars and Hemel sadly I'm not that convinced it will work.
Rugby League can then go back to being a Northern sport with just an handful of clubs that break the 10,000 mark and the rest forever struggling, which major sponsors will they attract then? will it be the same attraction for TV? how long will they put up with Catalan, it will be moans about the travel. Next with lack of money it will force clubs to perhaps return to semi professional except a few?
What a sad state of affairs, I never rated Maurice Lindsay but I totally Respected his vision for the game, his enthusiasm which he was able to sell to Murdock, but after he and Rathbone once interviewed me for a post I knew he did not have what was needed to carry it off completely, its the same now with Wood, though many say he was not good as then a club secretary at Halifax.
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| I'm afraid your'e being too pie-in-the-sky here. The RFL have never owned a stadium in their history so why should they have started in the 1980s with Fulham?
I'm a big supporter of London RL having watched Fulham from the start during the 19 years I lived in the city. However, the RFL have tried hard to support the London club, although never actually putting cash in ( even though many die-hard Northern fans remain convinced they have 'poured millions' into London ). Catalans will work but is arguably not an 'expansion club' at all: that part of France has always been 'Treiziste'. The frequent ground moves for London have not helped at all. It's sad that at a time that the club is finally producing a good crop of youngsters it coincides with a feeling of total drift, with no clear future.Playing performances like Saturday's are even understandable given that none of the players can have any idea what the future holds.
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| The RFL bought Odsal - apparently to help the Bulls - and rented it back.
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| Quote ="Snoopy"GF is right. Its over. Time to get a black tie sorted for the burial ceremony.'"
Sad to say I have to agree, felt like coming away from a funeral on Saturday and after the Wigan game. In fact I've come away from funerals in a more cheerful frame of mind than I have from Broncos games lately. Funnily enough I bought a new dark suit recently, looks like I'll have a chance to wear it soon!
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"Sad to say I have to agree, felt like coming away from a funeral on Saturday and after the Wigan game. In fact I've come away from funerals in a more cheerful frame of mind than I have from Broncos games lately. Funnily enough I bought a new dark suit recently, looks like I'll have a chance to wear it soon!'"
Think you may have hit on an idea for the last home game. Men (and women) in black! Or at least mourning suits.
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| Quote ="kit80"The RFL bought Odsal - apparently to help the Bulls - and rented it back.'"
The poster was talking about funding a 'community stadium' in the 198os. Forgive the shorthand but the Odsal 'leaseback' was an entirely different matter concerning an existing RL stadium.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"I'm afraid your'e being too pie-in-the-sky here. The RFL have never owned a stadium in their history so why should they have started in the 1980s with Fulham?
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Not quite sure that is entirely correct. The Rugby League I believe once owned Taff Vale Park in Pontypridd in the early 1920's before selling it to a Greyhound Racing Association in 1927. Also in 1950 the Rugby League took over the lease of Brewery Field in Bridgend to ensure the club there continued and retained that lease till 1957. In addition Jenner Park in Barry was once owned by the Welsh Rugby League (1949?). So perhaps there is some historical precedence in non-heartland areas.
Just wish there was a clear strategy.
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| a clear strategy? - the Broncos? - surely sum mishtake!
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| Quote ="poplar panther"a clear strategy? - the Broncos? - surely sum mishtake!'"
The RFL but exactly the same comment applies!
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In answer to the op. i think not. I think Al-Jazeera will buy the Broncos. The following article shows their interest in rugby league.
www.theroar.com.au/2012/02/12/al ... by-league/
No brainer for me, a TV company who are investing in rugby league, buying a team in LONDON.
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In answer to the op. i think not. I think Al-Jazeera will buy the Broncos. The following article shows their interest in rugby league.
www.theroar.com.au/2012/02/12/al ... by-league/
No brainer for me, a TV company who are investing in rugby league, buying a team in LONDON.
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"
Just wish there was a clear strategy.'"
There has been.....the current CEO has butchered the club and a few northern clubs will plough in to pick the best meat off the bones, leaving the scraps for the Skolars and lower division clubs.
I am very angry, because I still say with a lot of hard work it could have been oh so different. The RFL are equally to blame for not letting IL keep his shareholding in the club in 2007/08.....the ARL had no issues with News Limited owning majority shareholdings in expansion clubs outside NSW.
Very very short sighted of them.....because IL would never have stood for any of the dross dished up by Blanchard or Gus and he would never have promoted Powell!
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| As a Londoner who has moved up north it really pains me to see what has become of the Broncos. I don't have the answers but two things which would make sense to me if it's not too late are (a) to reach out and try and get a groundshare arrangement with Saracens RFU (which might or might not be tricky given their Wigan links) and (b) revert to the red/blue/yellow kit of the late 90's. Obviously the kit only means so much but as much as London has a RL heritage to go "retro" on that was its best time and it could rekindle some of the memories of supporters from that time. The groundshare would make sense to me for several reasons - geographically it's in a populated part of London not all that far from both Hemel Hempstead and London Skolars, it's an all-weather pitch not otherwise being used for much of the summer and the Saracens ethos is less stuffy and old school rugby union than Harlequins or elsewhere in south west London - indeed it was modelled by Peter Deakin.
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| Saracens only have permission from the council to play so many games there, was the only way they could get it built. Groundsharing there is a non-starter.
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| As angry as I am with how the club is currently being run, forcing them to deal with Barnet Council is one punishment too far.
Besides if you think the atmosphere is flat at the Stoop, wait until you hear it at a half converted athletics stadium. As a disgruntled BFC fan, trust me, the Hive is a much better bet.
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| Ok, wasn't aware of the planning issue, and it's too late anyway, but if you could have your time again and go back 10-15 years I do think that there was scope for a London RL team to be developed in tandem with Saracens. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck, I would love London to survive and those of you who have maintained your support are heroes
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| Quote ="MarginMeter"Ok, wasn't aware of the planning issue, and it's too late anyway, but if you could have your time again and go back 10-15 years I do think that there was scope for a London RL team to be developed in tandem with Saracens. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck, I would love London to survive and those of you who have maintained your support are heroes'"
Thanks for the good wishes. I don't see any reason why we'd regret not joining up with Saracens when we had such a 'joyous' link up with Quins in the meantime! In truth I think staying away from Union is the one thing we've learned from all this. 10 to 15 years ago Saracens were in no position to even think about owning their own ground. They were exiled in Watford as very minor tenants of Watford FC. RU wasn't the dominant beast is has since become hence why so many clubs left the city borders. I would imagine that had we have linked up with them then we'd have been swiftly brushed aside once RU's rise too hold.
What it might have done though is steered Saracens away from Barnet (a borough they have no historical link with) and forced the vilest council on the planet to pay some attention to finding a home for the loyal 120+ year old Football Club. And so, for that perhaps, I have some regret.
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Quote ="willow6666"In answer to the op. i think not. I think Al-Jazeera will buy the Broncos. The following article shows their interest in rugby league.
www.theroar.com.au/2012/02/12/al ... by-league/
No brainer for me, a TV company who are investing in rugby league, buying a team in LONDON.'"
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www.theroar.com.au/2012/02/12/al ... by-league/
No brainer for me, a TV company who are investing in rugby league, buying a team in LONDON.'"
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| Quote ="gutterfax"There has been.....the current CEO has butchered the club and a few northern clubs will plough in to pick the best meat off the bones, leaving the scraps for the Skolars and lower division clubs.'"
Not on his own he hasn't. It's been a catalogue of poor decisions by CEOs and probably the Board as well as coaches. Though I would point out you state earlier in this thread 'Personally I don't blame any individuals'.
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| Quote ="aspouea"I don't see any reason why we'd regret not joining up with Saracens when we had such a 'joyous' link up with Quins in the meantime! In truth I think staying away from Union is the one thing we've learned from all this.'"
what game our current landlords play is neither here nor there....neither is the name of our club nor the colours in which they play...
I am not sure if the fact I keep repeating it makes people think it's not true, but here we go again:
Harlequins Rugby League/London Broncos.v2 have NEVER, EVER EVER....since the end of the 2005 season up until June 11th 2013, NEVER, EVER, attempted to engage the local population. Visits to schools is a great tactic, but nothing works like engaging local businesses, bars, corporates etc. As for the local population themselves, other than a few adverts placed in this, out last season at the stoop, in the local free sheets, nothing at all has been done to attract them. A random guess would say that there are 70,000 residents between whitton/St Margerets/Hounslow and Teddington Stations......about 8sq Miles...with plenty of busses, trains etc to get to the ground. We have a poster here who is involved in the local press set up......take it from him if not me, the efforts of the cub up until now, our last season at the stoop have been worse than pathetic.
Yet again the club are moving as a result....nay...as a 100% direct result of their total failure to understand the concept of community based marketing strategies.
The club can move to wembley ing stadium and it will make no difference until the total culture at the club changes....and alas, that involves saying farewell to Mr Hughes...with a massive thank you card and life membership to the club and maybe even one day a stadium named in his honour.
As for the rest of the back office.......maybe SELCO need a go getter like Gus
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Not on his own he hasn't. It's been a catalogue of poor decisions by CEOs and probably the Board as well as coaches. Though I would point out you state earlier in this thread 'Personally I don't blame any individuals'.'"
I blame every CEO since Brown, I blame Hughes and the other board (sic) member(s), I blame the RFL. I don't "individually" blame them but collectively.....
Gus's role in this has been the most dramatic on and off the pitch, but in reality, he was handed a poisoned chalice in the first instance and secondly, he was patently not qualified for the role he was given.
Paul Brown (glad to hear he's better now) and Ian Lenegan are the only two people I find blameless for the fiasco unfolding before our eyes. Collectively, everyone else including Mac, Towell and Rea are all in some way responsible.
London Broncos. 1996-2013 RIP!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"the efforts of the cub up until now, our last season at the stoop have been worse than pathetic.'"
Steady that's close to praise as far as Gus is concerned.
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Steady that's close to praise as far as Gus is concerned.'"
Gus is just the poor sod who's there at the moment....prior to him, Blanchard was another failed cricket admin who was in the process of being found out at HKR and Hogg never wanted the job in the first place.
There is a common denominator through all this....I wasn't the first to point it out, but around about 2007 there were a few murmurings as to the role being played by our benefactor in decisions he should really have left to others.
As I say, I'd be happy to one day watch a Superleague RL game being played in London at the Sir David Hughes Stadium........but that will not happen whilst he controls the club!
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Apparently Stevo was repeating the rumour that DH will be calling time at the end of this season. Now Stevo isn't exactly known for talking sense but (apparently) he is a good friend of DH.
The totalrl thread link
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The totalrl thread link
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Quote ="Hedgehog King"Apparently Stevo was repeating the rumour that DH will be calling time at the end of this season. Now Stevo isn't exactly known for talking sense but (apparently) he is a good friend of DH.
The totalrl thread link
www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... ry-afraid/'"
I'd be taking this very seriously.
Stevo announced Scott Hill, Powell's sacking and 2013 at the Stoop weeks before it was confirmed by the club.
Close to Hughes, there could be something in this.
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Quote ="Hedgehog King"Apparently Stevo was repeating the rumour that DH will be calling time at the end of this season. Now Stevo isn't exactly known for talking sense but (apparently) he is a good friend of DH.
The totalrl thread link
www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php ... ry-afraid/'"
I'd be taking this very seriously.
Stevo announced Scott Hill, Powell's sacking and 2013 at the Stoop weeks before it was confirmed by the club.
Close to Hughes, there could be something in this.
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