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| It is a sad move it if this like Sir Alex retirement turns out to be the truth, but it not only reflects our club and it's decline but the game itself.
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| Quote ="jaybs"It is a sad move it if this like Sir Alex retirement turns out to be the truth, but it not only reflects our club and it's decline but the game itself.'"
Well Fergies departure is confirmed.
Just a matter of seeing where we are off to.
Id be up for this venue bearing in mind our crowds,but its hardly SL is it.
But as Poplar Panther says perhaps its the club preparing us for a stint
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| Quote ="pronto":eblddu2oWell Fergies departure is confirmed.
Just a matter of seeing where we are off to.
Id be up for this venue bearing in mind our crowds,but its hardly SL is it.
But as Poplar Panther says perhaps its the club preparing us for a stint
at a lower level.'"
Think you're right about this being a lower level venue. As such, it looks fine. I doubt we'd have any difficulty in persuading the RFL to let us use it as a one year only SL venue.
Far too inaccessible for me but handy for folks arriving from northern latitudes down the M1.
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| Looks a nice ground for a Championship or SL2 side, with potential to be upgraded and as such could be a good move, and a decent looking bar for those who break out in a cold sweat at the thought of having to watch us sober (which I'd imagine is just about everyone at the moment!). Might get a one season exemption on the ground capacity, unless we're dropping down into the Championship next year - which wouldn't suprise me as we patently can't cope at this level the way we're going at the moment.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"[Relevance of Ferguson's retirement to our situation completely escapes me.
Think you're right about this being a lower level venue. As such, it looks fine. I doubt we'd have any difficulty in persuading the RFL to let us use it as a one year only SL venue.
Far too inaccessible for me but handy for folks arriving from northern latitudes down the M1.'"
Would not surprise me if we got a special dispensation to play at a smaller venue for the last year.
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| Making Daivd Hughes pay for 10,000 empty seats every week is a strange reward from the RFL for the man keeping SuperLeague in the south going. Barnet, Orient or New River all have better transport links than Twickenham and could do the job at less cost. By definition they are not better stadiums than the Stoop, but need a bit of reality here.
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| another thing I forgot to add in my list of positives is that the Hive is a top class training facility. It'd knock spots off anything the Broncos have at Roehampton I'm sure
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| Our team trains?
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| Quote ="daftdad"Our team trains?'"
teed that one up for you didnt I?
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| Anyone got anything more solid than just a rumour about this? Seem to recall we had speculation about Leyton Orient recently that in the end amounted to nothing.
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| Bit different to what I heard, we are interested in Underhill!!!!
Apparently there is some stuff on Wikipedia (pinch of salt comes to mind) but have not read it personally.
One thing is certain, underhill is a e hole!!!
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"Bit different to what I heard, we are interested in Underhill!!!!
Apparently there is some stuff on Wikipedia (pinch of salt comes to mind) but have not read it personally.
One thing is certain, underhill is a poop hole!!!'"
Underhill!!
Jeez if some on here think the Hive will be a step down they'll be in for a hell of a shock at Underhill!
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| As a lifelong Arsenal fan, I have been to Underhill on numerous occasions and I can confirm the rumours that it is a complete sh*te hole!
Not seen the Hive but it has to be an improvement on Underhill
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| cant see how it could possibly be Underhill. If it isnt fit for a League 2 (now Conf) team with a similar fanbase as the Broncos then it isnt fit for SL. They're leaving because a)it's a dump and b)the council have blocked them doing anything with the place. Plus even in the unlikely event that the Broncos would want to move into an expensive dump that they cant modernise they'd also be moving slapbang into the middle of Saracens' new stomping ground. Hmmm, wonder who'd market themselves better in the area.
Underhill - no way, no how.
The Hive - a lot more likely. And with much more going for it short,medium and longterm. (plus it's nearer to my house etc etc)
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"Anyone got anything more solid than just a rumour about this? Seem to recall we had speculation about Leyton Orient recently that in the end amounted to nothing.'"
I thought we were going to the Olympic Stadium.
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| Not necessarily apathy and acceptance. I'll admit to apathy but frankly unlikely to follow the club to most of the mooted grounds.
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| And there was me thinking we were going to have a ground share at Odsal. Just to keep it all neat and tidy in that M62 corridor
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| Quote ="Torbreck"And there was me thinking we were going to have a ground share at Odsal. Just to keep it all neat and tidy in that M62 corridor
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Excellent idea. That way, all those muppets who constantly moan about the Broncos having been given financial assistance by the RFL would actually be correct.
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| Dropping down a level to regroup, preferably under a new owner who understands running a business and who to employ as a decent marketing manager (there, I've admitted it - I agree with Gutterfax ) might be a good idea.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Dropping down a level to regroup, preferably under a new owner who understands running a business and who to employ as a decent marketing manager (there, I've admitted it - I agree with Gutterfax
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While I hope we don't end up dropping a level I agree that if (yeah I know big 'if') this is done with a proper plan this could be used as an opportunity to regroup and rebuild. It might even lead to a better future in the long run rather than the current seasonal 'mare of bouncing around at the bottom of the SL.
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"While I hope we don't end up dropping a level I agree that if (yeah I know big 'if') this is done with a proper plan this could be used as an opportunity to regroup and rebuild. It might even lead to a better future in the long run rather than the current seasonal 'mare of bouncing around at the bottom of the SL.'"
I think we would be as well folding rather than dropping down, the new Super League One & Two from 2015 needs another Dr like Salford have to succeed, which we have never seemed to have many investors interested in, the new set up if adopted will lead to more teams going up and down, up and down!
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| All for moving to a smaller ground, if its a very long term deal, 25+ years. We are equal partners etc.
But why move to an area where there is a successful RU club? Saracens have set up shop in Barnet / Mill Hill area. Have crowds just under 10,000 have a bigger marketing dept, coumminty coaching dept and are much more successful.
We need to become a community club somewhere away from a big RU club. Set down roots and stay.
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"While I hope we don't end up dropping a level I agree that if (yeah I know big 'if') this is done with a proper plan this could be used as an opportunity to regroup and rebuild. It might even lead to a better future in the long run rather than the current seasonal 'mare of bouncing around at the bottom of the SL.'"
If we "drop down a level" we will stay there. There will be no support for our return as we are regarded as a project that will never work. With DH retiring who do you expect to finance our return to SL in the future. Im sure DH has had enough already and will not be interested in financing us further in a 2nd tier let alone go down the same road in the future. If i was him i would be saying 'enoughs enough'. I cant do this on my own and no other investors are around so.....
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| Quote ="Snoopy"If we "drop down a level" we will stay there. There will be no support for our return as we are regarded as a project that will never work. With DH retiring who do you expect to finance our return to SL in the future. Im sure DH has had enough already and will not be interested in financing us further in a 2nd tier let alone go down the same road in the future. If i was him i would be saying 'enoughs enough'. I cant do this on my own and no other investors are around so.....'"
Well part of my proper plan would have meant investment, marketing etc... course if we don't have this then its all over I suppose. We can't really carry on as we are can we? As for who the investers could be - who knows? Where did the Salford Dr appear from? Do the owners of SELCO want to buy a rugby club? Or Barry Hearn? Or Tony Kleanthous? I'd hoped that Ian Lenagen would have stuck around, I thought he might have been our best chance but we all know how that ended up!
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