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| Fair score today.
Batley were much more organised at the last tackle. Some good training park moves were working for them with some good angle running, and switching the attack
Broncos made some basicc errors, macani getting taken into touch at a kick return was turning point of game for me. I still think macani gets caught out of position in defence to many times.
Penalty being questioned was for late shot on the kicker, difference between the similar one against London in first half was about 2 seconds! Difference was London players feet were still off ground when he got hit, Batley player kicking foot was back on the ground. All down to timing.
Good crowd and good atmosphere, if it's just that stand that's going to be in use with nothing in the shade its going to be a problem. Food on offer looked good, wonder how many folk knew where club shop was though.
There were more there than club thought, they ran out of paper tickets.
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| Quote ="BigTime"..The fan zone was decent but not heaving, one consequence was only 2 choices of food the £10 pizza or the £10 burger. As the latter appeared to have the kids frying up and burning things I went for the former. Not sure it’s really match day food especially with limited seating but it was fine. The failure to provide any napkins was in my opinion poor.
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They had napkins (and wooden forks) at the Burger stall ! The Burger guys originally ran a Vegan stall (last year) but included Burgers this season. I'm not a big Burger/Chips fan but it is good quality. £10 is too much for any food from a stall, but second time I've had it this season and I was happy with what I ate. They had three options today, Burger, Hot Dog or Meatless Burger.
Both the Burger/Vegan stall and Pizza van are at AFC Wimbledon matches. Personally I prefer MyPie, Jerk Chicken, Ding Dong (Chinese) and Doner Kebab (occasional football vendor) over both today's options.
I don't think the Broncos did themselves any favours with MyPie (first Bradford home maybe?) leaving them isolated with the Away Fans in the South Stand. £9 for pie, mash and peas raises eyebrows but at least is understood as pricing in London. Not surprised our visitors from up North with no knowledge of the quality of the food, are not going to pay London prices, especially if nobody local is buying and they don't overhear positive comments. In the same way I was going no where near the food at Arsenal (when AFC Wimbledon played there) with their excessive "London Premiership Prices" - possibly £24 for some combo meal.
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| Quote ="northernbloke" wonder how many folk knew where club shop was though.'"
Agreed. Nor the pub which offers a far better selection of beer than the concession stand.
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| Quote ="Smithers99"
London prices are pretty difficult to stomach but I think most will feel an oven fired 10inch pizza for a £10 feels a bit different and thus more accept table than a £10 burger and chips which I suspect most up North will feel is a bit strong especially when the chef keeps burning the buns. I think quite a few pizzas and hot dogs got sold so possibly those two concession stands will be back. On a personal level I prefer the £5 pie or hot dog from the stadium concession stand but if a better quality of food experience makes it a better game day experience then I’m happy enough.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Fair score today.
Batley were much more organised at the last tackle. Some good training park moves were working for them with some good angle running, and switching the attack
Broncos made some basicc errors, macani getting taken into touch at a kick return was turning point of game for me. I still think macani gets caught out of position in defence to many times.
Penalty being questioned was for late shot on the kicker, difference between the similar one against London in first half was about 2 seconds! Difference was London players feet were still off ground when he got hit, Batley player kicking foot was back on the ground. All down to timing.
Good crowd and good atmosphere, if it's just that stand that's going to be in use with nothing in the shade its going to be a problem. Food on offer looked good, wonder how many folk knew where club shop was though.
There were more there than club thought, they ran out of paper tickets.'"
Decent point on Macani it was poor when he got dragged into touch but I did think he was one of the few who challenged and broke the line and compared to how anonymous he was for the early part of last season he is a transformed player and an asset.
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| Yeah agree in attack generally he was a handful. Still think he gets caught out too much in defence, maybe it's a communication thing with the centre
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| Yep smithers you are right. The bar is so far tucked out of the way know its only for those in the know.
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| Quote ="Smithers99"Agreed. Nor the pub which offers a far better selection of beer than the concession stand.'"
The cask ale in the pub today was great.
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| Really enjoyed that.Better than expected.Having the crowd in the smaller east stand certainly improved the atmosphere.The fan zone thing could be really good in the warmer weather.It might be an unpopular opinion but I love it that the team play at Plough Lane.It’s a belting little stadium,in a great part of London.
Thought the game itself was really good.Had a sinking feeling when Batley went over early that it might be a long afternoon.Apart from a 15 minute spell in the second half when we were too predictable,we gave a good showing.Hopefully wins come sooner rather than later so fans keep coming back.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Fair score today.
Penalty being questioned was for late shot on the kicker, difference between the similar one against London in first half was about 2 seconds! Difference was London players feet were still off ground when he got hit, Batley player kicking foot was back on the ground. All down to timing.
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Possibly, but the ref wasn't looking at the first one.
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| Meadows made a big difference when he came on and showed what we are missing in our halves, Batley's last tackle play's were more imaginative and they were able to play off the platform set by their robust forwards. Quite simply they were better than us in most area's of the field, including some Oscar winning performances. Did my eyes deceive me or did one player appear to headbutt the ground in the tackle?. Of course he got the pen. as well. All adds up to a more experienced team taking home the points. We desperately need a half back.
I can't really comment on the first half as the flipping sun was in my eyes most of the time, WTH is it going to be like in the summer?
Still, won't have to worry the sun next week up in Whitehaven I guess, if I see us lose up there 1 more time I think I will just give up ! For me it's all ready a relegation 4 pointer
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| Whitehaven is certainly a game London need to target. The final position this season won't be decided by results against Batley, we know they are the better side.
I think there's enough in the first 17 to avoid too serious a relegation battle but am worried about what happens when injuries strike.
Meadows made a big difference yesterday, the halves is an area that could do with strengthening in an ideal world.
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| Gate officially declared as 1,849.
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| Quote ="Smithers99"Ten point loss 20-30 from leading 14-10 early second half. We were there with first timers (our knowledge remains closer to first timers than experts in many respects still) so harder to follow what was going on. Defensively we still look a bit suspect especially under the high ball. Macani provided the x factor again. Raiwalui was missing from the 17 and may have made the difference.. Leyland and Horsman are good 21/22 year olds, but the half back position needs some experienced craft to complement them.
Personally I thought there was only one winner and the scoreline was pretty accurate. Not criticising Broncos but feel we need a bit more quality. But the foundations are there, so some additional recruiting would make a big difference.'"
Fair points and it was pretty alarming to watch our drop off in the halves, particularly in the second half. I like Horsman and I think he's a good prospect, but we need a more dominant 7 if we are going to bring the best out of Leyland. We weren't able to hold down a consistent choice at 7 last season and it really told.
I know it's early doors, but we don't appear to have variation in our kicking game, outside of shovel the ball to Leyland on the last and see if he can put a bomb up. It was something we did constantly last season and it doesn't appear to have changed. Having some size in the halves wouldn't go amiss or us either.
I don't mean to dig one person out, but if Raiwalui is fit for Whitehaven we need to be going with him.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Possibly, but the ref wasn't looking at the first one.'"
Oh oh.
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| Disappointed about the final result but I didn't think the day was all bad.
Firstly I thought we were in for a pasting when Batley took the lead early on, so credit to the lads for digging in, coming back and taking the lead- although it was disappointing to have let it slip going in at half time.
Second half, despite leading early on we seemed to run out of ideas/ steam going forward.
One thing I noticed was that Batley finished most of their sets on our try line, we were kicking from halfway a lot of the time on our last tackle. Which wasn't always a bad thing as their fella on the left didn't seem too happy under the high ball. But we were having to work a lot harder to clear our lines and not making too much meaningful forward progress.
While Batley are a good side I felt that if we had a bit more about us ( and cut out silly mistakes ) we could , stress COULD , have got a result. Someone else made the point about the difference Meadows made when he came on - he did, perhaps he used to read this forum, and had a point to prove to some?
That said I feel a lot more confident about this season on the pitch - after last season's opener it was pretty clear that a number of players ( not just the ex- Skolars) weren't going to be good enough if they couldn't seriously up their game. Staying injury free ? Grant seemed to have a bad injury first half - was pointing to his chest when the physio came on, and she instantly signalled for him to be replaced. Rib injury?
Off pitch - good crowd, good to see one of our local clubs ( Brixton) involved - hopefully they and other clubs in London and the Southeast will be present at our other home games. Medway Dragons to be invited for the game at Ebbsfleet would be a good fit , no?
If I hadn't been to a gig at Pizza Express on Friday I would have tried the pizza option yesterday.. Hot dog and chips was ok, if the cook was burning the burger buns then it could only add to the flavour - brioche buns are the product of Satan's bakery!
Fanzone could be a winner in warmer times, somewhere to hang out pre match, would be good to have a merch stall out there - I've no idea where the club shop is!
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| I was not able to go, but all in all, looks much more positive than the start of last season
Yes we lost, but we was competitive, and sounds like off-field great improvement
Now the acid test, can they back this up (off field I mean), and keep over 1500 for next gate
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| Quote ="RfE"Someone else made the point about the difference Meadows made when he came on - he did, perhaps he used to read this forum, and had a point to prove to some?
Fanzone could be a winner in warmer times, somewhere to hang out pre match, would be good to have a merch stall out there - I've no idea where the club shop is!'"
The fact that Meadows made a difference gives an indication of where our side is.
The shop was just opposite the pub (which was nice and lively pre match) but didn't see any customers in it when I went past.
Missed opportunity with a decent crowd to have the new shirts available and on sale.
Even Buck and Dusty were wearng plain shirts and not sure why they weren't pitch side entertaining and geeing on the crowd.
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| Did'nt see the match, have not seen the highlights, but I feel we had a very light pre season in terms of competitive games into the campaign this year. One friendly against lower opposition is not good enough to gel a side together.
As we have a quiet preseason schedule, from a ex Rugby Union player, you need at least 2-3 good games to get back into the swing of things. We are missing game toughness which you cannot replicate on the training pitch.
From what I have read, we have potential in our young half backs but need a bit of experience coming in, we have good foundations, but we have clocked off at the start but had enough in ourselves to dig in and get ourselves back, and the fan feedback is positive, apart from an expensive pizza (which would annoy me aswell).
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| Coffee from the Broncos club sponsor Stubborn Rhino was quality and deserving of the premium tag.
An attendance of 1,849 feels correct to me and is pretty much what I estimated with "My guess is a crowd approaching the 2,000 mark".
Biggest off field improvement is it felt like you were at a big event yesterday which is (one of the) keys to retaining and building a fan base. There were quite a lot of small kids yesterday; the bouncy assault course keeping many entertained. Quite possible that many of those families got in at low cost rate this week. That won't make sense indefinitely, but when you get a child who wants to go because of the off field entertainment, starts to get a small engagement with the on the pitch performance and parents who enjoy a Sunday afternoon with a beer in hand watching a sporting event, then those families will regard it is worth paying for.
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| Quote ="Smithers99"Coffee from the Broncos club sponsor Stubborn Rhino was quality and deserving of the premium tag.
An attendance of 1,849 feels correct to me and is pretty much what I estimated with "My guess is a crowd approaching the 2,000 mark".
Biggest off field improvement is it felt like you were at a big event yesterday which is (one of the) keys to retaining and building a fan base. There were quite a lot of small kids yesterday; the bouncy assault course keeping many entertained. Quite possible that many of those families got in at low cost rate this week. That won't make sense indefinitely, but when you get a child who wants to go because of the off field entertainment, starts to get a small engagement with the on the pitch performance and parents who enjoy a Sunday afternoon with a beer in hand watching a sporting event, then those families will regard it is worth paying for.'"
Yep they need to back this up next couple of home games, and provide a similar experience (with the caaveat that the team actually wins)
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| Quote ="Smithers99"Coffee from the Broncos club sponsor Stubborn Rhino was quality and deserving of the premium tag.
Interesting. I ‘m ashamed to say and making a mockery of myRL fans ‘Handle’ my intention to offer support to this establishment did not get passed first contact with the £4 for a latte sign. I’ll reflect on it.....with the aid of my broker!
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| Quote ="Lefevbre"Meadows made a big difference when he came on and showed what we are missing in our halves, Batley's last tackle play's were more imaginative and they were able to play off the platform set by their robust forwards. Quite simply they were better than us in most area's of the field, including some Oscar winning performances. Did my eyes deceive me or did one player appear to headbutt the ground in the tackle?. Of course he got the pen. as well.
Cant disagree and yes I thought he manufactured a header to win a pen.
I can't really comment on the first half as the flipping sun was in my eyes most of the time, WTH is it going to be like in the summer?
Yup it was annoying. LB Twitter has photos up and behind the player, Leyland junior, all the crowd are shading their eyes. It is what it is.
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| Re the sun in people's eyes in the East stand, reminds me of similar times at The Stoop .
Now if the club was smart ( yeah I know!) they could stock up the club shop or a merch stall with Broncos caps on bright sunny days like yesterday.
As I say, if the club was smart.........
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