Going through the programme and looking through the results trying to see if there was any pattern to our season and the following became quite apparent

Dorn, who had scored 9 tries in 15 games, got injured after/during the Celtic match on June 6.

Purdham got injured the following week and his last game before missing a chunk of the season was in the win away to HKR on June 12.

We were 10 and 5 at that point.

We all know what happened after that. Anyone else think the rut could have been the loss of our 6 and 13 for six and seven weeks respectively and were they rushed back too soon?

Give that man a prize, bingo! Brian has been doing it all season to make up for a paper thin squad. The players then get ed off, factions appear and hey presto we are crap! If anybody can come up with a better theory I would like to hear it. We won't hear anything from the club I suspect.

Why should we hear anything-Its not our business

Nope, but without us, there is no business.

And if the club came out with that as an excuse what would our fans on here then say?

....I would rather we finished 10th/11th after blooding some youngsters rather than risking crocking some of our best players.....

Without customers Tesco would be nothing, but they dont hang there dirty washing out. If you want to know the internal politics of the club buy IL shares, if not keep guessing.

I entirly agree but that is sadly what BM prefers to do. Orr has clearly been playing when injured according to posters on here and has been ineffective in loads of games. Gigot would have been more effective, especially with his kicking game. Reserve observers may say he is not yet SL standard but when he is injured - neither is Orr by a long wayicon_exclaim.gif

Stupid analogy, on that basis QRL are a Ma & Pa Convenience store compared to Leeds/St Helens being Tesco's. While nobody has the right to understand the internal metrics, workings and stratagies of QRL, supporters will make their own minds up about the "product" on offer on the shelf.

If supporters percieve, much like high street punters percieve, that the business they choose to honour with their custom, is no longer stocking the products they want to buy, they will shop elsewhere, likewise, if supporters percieve that a lack of quality product is on offer from the club in way of players and coaching staff for next season, they may also choose to go elsewhere, not to buy their RL, but simply to use their money in other ways.

Tesco's are not going out of business.........................close to 30 Ma & Pa Convenience stores/CTN's close or change hands every week in the UK.

Believe me, if I had the cash I would buy the bluddy lot.

As for dirty laundry, I am not suggesting chapter and verse, but an admission that something was wrong and is being addressed rather than the usual b0ll0x spouted at after match press conferences would go some way to explaining what steps are being taken to ensure that the 2010 season doesn't start like the 2009 is ending.

All we want is an explanation. That's all, an apology would be even better.

It may not require an apology- if the downturn in form is due to injuries why apologise.

Bizarre and very contradictory response

Momentum was lost due to injuries.....but getting spanked by a load of teams from the lower half and mid table points to something other than injuries.....we were pretty much full strength on Sunday and yet we got dotted by a Cas team who themselves were tonked a few weeks earlier by Leeds.....why?
I don't want an appology, just an assurance that whatever caused this division in the squad has been sorted out.

What division is that?

Players arguing with each other on the pitch, snide posts on facebook...no smoke without fire.

Which players have been arguing on the pitch? I've never noticed that.

Nor me, they are to busy making mistakes to waste time arguing.

Purdham and Gafa to name but 2.

When would 2 centres come close enough to argue?

When?

Never seen our esteemed captain talking to anybody, never mind actually arguing.

I think people are reading way too much into that Facebook thing too.

Haven't seen or do not want to see the FB thing....just pointed out that Gafa and Purdham were having words under the sticks at the Cas game after one of their second half tries. Finger pointing and raised voices followed by back turning.
Irrelevant anyway. If anyone out there thinks everything is hunky dory at QRL then they need their heads looking at. June 12th - 4th place - 20 points. September 10th, 11th place - 22 points.......do the math as our illiterate American cousins would say.

Nobody is saying nothing is wrong(the matches lost in the last 10 games highlights that). You have made a statement to the effect it is solely due to divisions within the team-back it up

Thats what I'm thinking too.

Point of order...I didn't say it was soley down to divisions in the squad, I said it was part of the problem. Nice try



What I believe and what is fact may not be the same, but let's face it, if you think everything is rosey in TW2 you must be from another planet. Remember, I am the useless idiot who got knocked back for a job at quins RL and therefore have a hidden agenda when it comes to marketing issues........even though a few things I have suggested over the years have all proved worthwhile.....but hey, keep on knocking me, I am teflon!

Purdham and 1F had words....that is a fact. Players or those connected with the have been using social networking sites to discuss other players (apparently) and as a team, we look like 17 individuals, not a tight knit unit.
I hope I am wrong, but I believe that there is something not right with the squad, because no matter how badly (or not) the team are being coached, to roll over and apply the KY in the manner of last Sunday points to nobody giving a toss.

To ask for proof is just being pedantic...it's highly unlikely that if I poke Gafa on facebook he will spill the beans, or that BMac will admit to their being anything wrong, but the fact we have 5 or more threads regarding the current situation points to a fair amount of fans thinking along the same lines.
Didn't someone post on thses boards that Purdham had said their was an issue but it had been talked through? If so, it wasn't talked through enough in my humble opinion!