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| I've chosen my all Time London Broncos/Harlequins RLFC squad since I began following Rugby League in 1997.
I'm sure many of you will disagree, but here goes:
1. Mark McLinden
2. Jon Wells
3. Tyrone Smith
4. Paul Sykes
5. Lee Greenwood
6. Scott Hill
7. Dennis Moran
8. Karl Temata
9. Chad Randall
10.Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
11.Robert Purdham
12.Lee Hopkins
13.Jimmy Dymock(c)
14.Mark Tookey
15.Solomon Haumono
16.Steele Retchless
17.Glen Air
Agree/Disagree????
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| Wells/Greenwood?
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| We've had much better wingers than Wells and Greenwood, did Dymock always play at 13?
To have Retchless on the bench is boarderline sin.
I'd be tempted to put Danny Williams(iirc?) The prop that we got while he still had to serve his ban before he could play for us, iirc. He probably wasn't as good as some other props we've had, but he added alot of grunt in our forward pack, so i'd be tempted to put him in instead of Karl or Louie.
I'll think about mine and maybe post one later on.
Wouldbe tempted to put Tommy in for Moran aswell, but it would be close for me imo.
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| PMSL, only just noticed Karl Temata
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| I'd sooner have Hetherington than Randall too.
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| Scott Cram MUST be in the pack — surely?
I'll write mine later.
But yeah, McLinden is in it.
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| I would have Tony Mestrov in the 17, certainly ahead of Louie. I remember Glen Air having a purple patch at when played at hooker due to injuries but apart from that was pretty average. Purdham is the only one of current sqaud who should get close.
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| Rusty Bawden got to be ahead of Tookey as well.
Other candidates: NBQ (for one season at least), Shaun Edwards, Martin Offiah, Greg Fleming, Peter Gill, Terry Matterson, Jason Hetherington, Thomas Leuluai, Matt Toshack, Paul Sykes
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| Quote ="PTB"Scott Cram MUST be in the pack — surely?
I'll write mine later.
But yeah, McLinden is in it.'"
Agree with Cram. I always like Justin Dooley too.
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| I don't think Leuluai did anything in a Broncos/Quins shirt that has been near the rugby he has been playing at Wigan. Most of the time he was miles away and played badly, far from the level that Moran played at (for us anyway, funny how things worked out).
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Rusty Bawden got to be ahead of Tookey as well.'"
....AT THE BAR Like Rusty....his offloads sometimes fooled his own team as well as the opposition, but he always made yards.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I don't think Leuluai did anything in a Broncos/Quins shirt that has been near the rugby he has been playing at Wigan. Most of the time he was miles away and played badly, far from the level that Moran played at (for us anyway, funny how things worked out).'"
Agree wtih Dennis ahead of Tommy, his try record for us was outstanding.
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| lets go right back ....you'd have dalgreen,gourley.m'barki,cambriani,eckersley,crossley and the master that was reg bowden....what an excellent bunch!!
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| FB Barnett
W Warton
C Fleming
C Sykes
W Bradley-Qalilawa
SO Dymock
SH Moran
LF Purdham
SR Gill
SR Retchless
P McCarthy-Scarsbrook
H Hetherington
P Young
Bench:
Millard
Randall
McLinden
Bawden
18th Man - Haumono
I nearly put Tyrone Smith in at wing, partly because I don't remember any really good ones since '97, and I was desparate to include Wayne Evans but couldn't put him in over McLinden. Never considered Carroll.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Agree with Cram. I always like Justin Dooley too.'"
The Salford fans I spoke to liked Dooley too. They said he had good aggression.
I'd put in Greg Barwick for his kicking.
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| Quote ="tim"We've had much better wingers than Wells and Greenwood.'"
So who are they, as you didn't name any? I've only been watching regularly since 2002, yet I can't name anyone significantly better than those two. NBQ had one good season (as did Greenwood) and I'd probably pick him ahead of Greenwood on that form, but looked pretty hopeless after that for me. We rarely seem to have wingers who rack up double figures in tries and at least Wells is defensively sound.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"So who are they, as you didn't name any? I've only been watching regularly since 2002, yet I can't name anyone significantly better than those two. NBQ had one good season (as did Greenwood) and I'd probably pick him ahead of Greenwood on that form, but looked pretty hopeless after that for me. We rarely seem to have wingers who rack up double figures in tries and at least Wells is defensively sound.'"
Steve Hall?
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| Nigel Roy.
I also thought Brett Warton and Andrew King were ok.
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| Quote ="Brian W"Nigel Roy.
I also thought Brett Warton and Andrew King were ok.'"
I was looking at the SLStats website and Roy tended to occupy a wingers slot in the squad, but I remember him operating more as a ?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I was looking at the SLStats website and Roy tended to occupy a wingers slot in the squad, but I remember him operating more as a Centre?'"
I always saw Roy as a centre, although he was certainly a decent player and would be a contender for my best XIII since 2002.
Brett Wharton was before my time - I don't recall ever seeing him play, or if I did he must have left soon after I got hooked.
Andrew King was good. I think we had him for just one season when we had a relatively weak side (2004?), so yes I'd probably pick him at left wing if I was going to pick a "2002-2010" team without shoehorning people into unfamiliar positions:
Mark McLinden
Jon Wells
Paul Sykes
Nigel Roy
Andrew King
Scott Hill
Dennis Moran
Solomon Haumono
Chad Randall
Danny Williams
Steele Retchless
Lee Hopkins
Jimmy Dymock
Rusty Bawden
Mark Tookey
Feleti Mateo
Tommy Leuluai
I caught the end of Richie Barnett and Jason Hetherington's spells with us but they always seemed to be injured and rarely playing.
I've probably overlooked one or two obvious candidates being somewhat hung over on a Sunday morning, and my choice wouldn't be very compliant with current quota regulations!
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| BRONCOS
1) Mark McLinden
2) Nigel Roy
3) Robert Purdham
4) Paul Sykes
5) Martin Offiah
6) Dennis Moran
7) Shaun Edwards
8.) Russell Bawden
9) Jason Hetherington
10) Tony Mestrov
11) Steele Retchless
12) Peter Gill
13) Jimmy Dymock
Subs: Richie Barnett, Karle Hammond, Lee Hopkins, Solomon Haumono
QUINS
1) Mark McLinden
2) Chris Melling
3) Robert Purdham
4) David Howell
5) Will Sharp
6) Luke Dorn
7) Danny Orr
8.) Karl Temata
9) Chad Randall
10) Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
11) Lee Hopkins
12) Jason Golden
13) Henry Paul
Subs: Danny Williams, Solomon Haumono, Scott Hill, Gareth Haggerty
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| Moran was a 7 not a 6. Dorn would have a shot at a Broncos team but not a Quins team. Otherwise can't disagree with a lot of that.
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| Quote ="markrammond"BRONCOS
1) Mark McLinden
2) Nigel Roy
3) Robert Purdham
4) Paul Sykes
5) Martin Offiah
6) Dennis Moran
7) Shaun Edwards
8.) Russell Bawden
9) Jason Hetherington
10) Tony Mestrov
11) Steele Retchless
12) Peter Gill
13) Jimmy Dymock
Subs: Richie Barnett, Karle Hammond, Lee Hopkins, Solomon Haumono
QUINS
1) Mark McLinden
2) Chris Melling
3) Robert Purdham
4) David Howell
5) Will Sharp
6) Luke Dorn
7) Danny Orr
8.) Karl Temata
9) Chad Randall
10) Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
11) Lee Hopkins
12) Jason Golden
13) Henry Paul
Subs: Danny Williams, Solomon Haumono, Scott Hill, Gareth Haggerty'"
I reckon that's a pretty fair line up on both sides, but I reckon the Broncos would win - good way to get round the Edwards/Moran debate, by the way.
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| Edwards wasn't in the same league as Moran when playing for the Broncos. Moran took stick from time to time, but looking back, he is probably one of the best players that played for London Broncos.
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