Having read what has been published in the press and posted on here over the past few days, I can't help but think there are too many people stuck on unimportant things.

The whole point of this thread was to discuss if Quins was going to fail as an organisation. A lot of what I see is mud throwing between people in regards to weather or nor the RFL has give hand outs, what will happen with sky. I think these issues will fall hand in hand, if a SL club goes to the wall, with all the safe guards in place to help this not happen, then our sport has become tainted.

I live and work in London, I am one of the 1,000,000 fans the RFL told Quins marketing that live in London. Do I attend games? No, before the boo's start I'll explain this. As a huge RL fan I feel duty bound to spread the gospel far and wide, to this extent I have been involved in a number of different grass-roots projects all over the capital. This is what stopped me attending games. Quins pick a 3pm Saturday afternoon kick-off. Fine for RL fans/amateur players in west London/north Surrey, but rubbish for anyone in any other part of London who, to be fair the best chance of a fan base, are involved with amateur RL. I can not see the logic in this, why would a club push away there best chance of a fan base?

This is why 2, maybe 3, years ago when the club gave out free season tickets to every player and coach in the amateur game down here failed and no body turned up. As they were to busy getting involved with playing the sport.

On top of this, living in the city centr,e the Stoop isn't the best place to get too. 90 mins to travel 18 miles, if the public transport is running a full service. I can be in Manchester in that time if I got a train from Euston. As most people commute during the week, they don't want the same on a weekend.

Another big issue the Quins have is that everyone thinks a rugby union club, well because it is. That's not my point, there is very few people are aware that there are two different clubs share a name and, to some extent, sharing a ground. Is this because the marketing team are hoping to piggy back of the RU clubs name? Well the games up 4 year and only backwards steps. There is nothing wrong sharing the same name, but there must be a big push to spread the word into the city.

Having a conversion with a London base weekly free publication, I asked him why there was so little coverage of RL, his answer "the man in the street doesn't care, they want to read about footballers, golfers, ect". Maybe so, but in a city of 6,000,000ish, I don't know the true number, sorry it's not in my job description to count how many people live in London, the RFL clam there is around 1,000,000 fans, so that is, if my maths are working, 1 in 6 people like RL. So would an interview with say LMS, if he wasn't leaving, go down so bad? Local boy makes good kind of angle.

The quins media team should be hounding every sports editor in the city, on a slow news day you might get something substantial in. The local TV press as well, the only time the club was mentioned was when purdo's brother die. I don't think it took much journalism to like to two together, however there was no mention of a club statement. Again, it raises a profile, might not be the kindest way of doing it, but it still will give people the incite the club is here.

What a lot have people have missed is that if the club goes to the wall there will be thousands of kids without heroes to look up too. The amateur game in London will not go away, it is too strong and has too many people roped into it. However little Jonny is not going to, and no disrespect meant by this, look up to Paul Thorman at Skolars as a hero. He won't see him on Sky every week, so he looks like another amateur player.

I would like to know what people think on these points, as if anyone will hold back, and please can this thread come back to the real issue of saving little Jonny's dreams of playing our wonderful sport at the top leave, in his home town.

Happy to be of service.

That's at least the 3rd time that you've said you won't be posting again on here. I expect to see a post from you again on here shortly, perhaps under a different name.

Born with it. Leads to a desire for accuracy.




This is hardly worth arguing about and there's no way to measure it. Some of the RU fans stayed for some of the time, some for none of it and some for all of it.

On the whole, I've seen a figure of 3500 used.


Yeah.



Not that I'm arguing with them.

Another immeasurable. {Rhetorical questions follow ... How far apart were the people? And why were you in there during the RL match? What's your source for the bar capacities? You have the Kings bar holding about 30% more than the stand above it. I suppose that's possible but none of them would be able to bend their elbows.


We AGREE



Perhaps we'd better park it there?

..thirsty




no we don't!

Well as it's not the end, may as well end here