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| dont worry about it, we always get overlooked by fans and pundits alike, not a fashionable club
was brilliant going back when we topped the league and looking on at predictions made that season!
top 8 for me will be a big improvement and step back in the right direction
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| Pretty much
I'm confident the major issues of last season are addressed and we'll make top 6
Other clubs are suffering late off field issues, if Widnes lose Brown they could be in deep brown stuff, Leeds have recruited no one and might be losing segeyaro who apparently turned their season round, Leigh might be cock-a-hoop after their middle 8s but frankly we were bloody awful that game and still only just lost
We won't be back to top 4 by a long way but we won't be bottom 4 either imo
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| Quote ="brearley84"dont worry about it, we always get overlooked by fans and pundits alike, not a fashionable club
was brilliant going back when we topped the league and looking on at predictions made that season!
top 8 for me will be a big improvement and step back in the right direction'"
Your second sentence it's why Paul Anderson should be regarded as one of the best coaches Fartown have ever had.
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| Quote ="Sheepridge Giant"Your second sentence it's why Paul Anderson should be regarded as one of the best coaches Fartown have ever had.'"
sure anderson will go down in history for helping us top the lls
that year we had a great team ethic and worked hard for each other just killing teams with good defence, line speed and pinning teams in their half with broughs kicks
also though i think other teams were rebuilding and i think our chance of winning the grand final those couple of years were our best chance and now gone, real shame, maybe if we had brett hodgson we could have gone all the way.
rebuilding now and could take a while!
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| Quote ="brearley84"sure anderson will go down in history for helping us top the lls
that year we had a great team ethic and worked hard for each other just killing teams with good defence, line speed and pinning teams in their half with broughs kicks
also though i think other teams were rebuilding and i think our chance of winning the grand final those couple of years were our best chance and now gone, real shame, maybe if we had brett hodgson we could have gone all the way.
rebuilding now and could take a while!'"
We aren't rebuilding in the same sense as saints rebuilt when martyn joynt and newlove weren't in the saints side, or as Leeds are with peacock and sinfield gone and burrow Maguire and JJB long in the tooth. our squad wasnt built properly to rebuild....
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| Quote ="jools"We aren't rebuilding in the same sense as saints rebuilt when martyn joynt and newlove weren't in the saints side, or as Leeds are with peacock and sinfield gone and burrow Maguire and JJB long in the tooth. our squad wasnt built properly to rebuild....'"
with the likes of long time servants crabtree, grix amongst others that have left at the end of this season and us finishing bottom and not with a new coach with new ideas id say we are rebuilding as a club and like said previous we have had our best chance to win the grand final in those recent years when we had a settled squad and a happy camp
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| Quote ="brearley84"with the likes of long time servants crabtree, grix amongst others that have left at the end of this season and us finishing bottom and not with a new coach with new ideas id say we are rebuilding as a club and like said previous we have had our best chance to win the grand final in those recent years when we had a settled squad and a happy camp'"
Rebuilding- Giants speak for going backwards......
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| Oh good grief
New coach with new ideas, not just a rehash of a previous coach who also got sacked...
One of the brightest young Half backs in the comp signed to play alongside THE best half back in the comp
The best winger & centre in the comp
Seasoned players in the pack alongside young turks hungry for the game
A new fullback along the way who is genuinely exciting and maybe a new prop who is has a superb set of stats behind him and has the potential to be as good as any in the league
Have we lost some players? Sure
But let's be brutally honest, they weren't good enough to get us to old Trafford in the last 5 years, in fact how many playoff games did we win? How many cup games?
Maybe some of that old guard needed sweeping out
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| Quote ="Code13"Oh good grief
New coach with new ideas, not just a rehash of a previous coach who also got sacked...
One of the brightest young Half backs in the comp signed to play alongside THE best half back in the comp
The best winger & centre in the comp
Seasoned players in the pack alongside young turks hungry for the game
A new fullback along the way who is genuinely exciting and maybe a new prop who is has a superb set of stats behind him and has the potential to be as good as any in the league
Have we lost some players? Sure
But let's be brutally honest, they weren't good enough to get us to old Trafford in the last 5 years, in fact how many playoff games did we win? How many cup games?
Maybe some of that old guard needed sweeping out'"
it did need sweeping on indeed.
young turks?! ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| You never heard that phrase?
Group of young players with swagger and confidence
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| Quote ="Code13"Oh good grief
New coach with new ideas, not just a rehash of a previous coach who also got sacked...
One of the brightest young Half backs in the comp signed to play alongside THE best half back in the comp
The best winger & centre in the comp
Seasoned players in the pack alongside young turks hungry for the game
A new fullback along the way who is genuinely exciting and maybe a new prop who is has a superb set of stats behind him and has the potential to be as good as any in the league
Have we lost some players? Sure
But let's be brutally honest, they weren't good enough to get us to old Trafford in the last 5 years, in fact how many playoff games did we win? How many cup games?
Maybe some of that old guard needed sweeping out'" Ah! common sense at last.
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| Quote ="Code13"Oh good grief
New coach with new ideas, not just a rehash of a previous coach who also got sacked...
One of the brightest young Half backs in the comp signed to play alongside THE best half back in the comp
The best winger & centre in the comp
Seasoned players in the pack alongside young turks hungry for the game
A new fullback along the way who is genuinely exciting and maybe a new prop who is has a superb set of stats behind him and has the potential to be as good as any in the league
Have we lost some players? Sure
But let's be brutally honest, they weren't good enough to get us to old Trafford in the last 5 years, in fact how many playoff games did we win? How many cup games?
Maybe some of that old guard needed sweeping out'"
With all those Best's you would think the rest of the league would give in. ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| It's not wrong though
We do have the best wing centre pairing and the best stand off
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| Thats only 3 bests, McGillivray, Cudjoe and Brough, I dont think many of the rest of the league would argue with that ..
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| Just looked at last season SL table at the end of the regular season and some noteworthy points
If we'd won our two games v Wakey we'd have finished 8th
We scored more and conceded less than every team below 6th apart from Salford
The results of last season show undeniable we lost because of discipline and conditioning
8th is well within our grasp, as is top 6
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| we couldnt hold onto leads (maybe fitness a problem that hopefully is rectified now) and also win close games
a season to forget! ended well mind ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Code13
If we'd won our two games v Wakey we'd have finished '"
IF KR had a different thickness of paint on their uprights we could have been relegated.
IF we had won all our games we would have been treble winners.
What a great game who else wants a go.
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| Quote ="Code13"Just looked at last season SL table at the end of the regular season and some noteworthy points
If we'd won our two games v Wakey we'd have finished 8th
We scored more and conceded less than every team below 6th apart from Salford
The results of last season show undeniable we lost because of discipline and conditioning
8th is well within our grasp, as is top 6'"
I'm with you Code.
We had tough year last year starting with Robbo / Ferres and onto injuries.
Confidence dipped never to return.
Despite that we were still competitive in most games.
New conditioner, full pre-season for Derek, Tom Symonds, Ryan Brierley and the Bradford 3 are the positives. Always a fan of Dale Ferguson so I've no doubts there. Paul Clough always solid when I saw him at Saints. Lee Gaskell I can't really comment on as I've not seen him play that much.
If we can get Wakeman and Mamo over the line we should be good to go.
As always it's all about moving forward more than the oppo.
Time will tell but my glass is half full ATM.
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| I will have a go Jools, the point being made is we were very close in many games and not completely outclassed therefore, with better coaching and conditioning we have every reason to be optimistic about the new season.
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| Quote ="jumper"I will have a go Jools, the point being made is we were very close in many games and not completely outclassed therefore, with better coaching and conditioning we have every reason to be optimistic about the new season.'"
Well as i have stated elsewhere optimism for me will be top 8, I will be satisfied with that for this season. I don't know any better than anyone else what the Bradford lads will do, But you have to be realistic, they were in the championship for a reason.
I don't dispute all the reasons stated for us having a poor season, but i think jools has a point as well, every other club could come up with their own list. We shall be better this season though.
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| I picked the two Wakey games because the only time in the last decade we didn't finish top 8 was the last time we dropped points to them
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| Quote ="Code13"I picked the two Wakey games because the only time in the last decade we didn't finish top 8 was the last time we dropped points to them'"
Wakey have recruited well this season, a good mix of experience and youth in their side. The return of John Kear also.
You may be sniffy about them code but the fact remains They WERE better than us last season, certainly were smarter than us last year making sure they stayed out of the bottom Four by giving it all early on. who's to say we take any points of them again in 5 years? There's no right we have to do that- and we didn't deserve to last season!
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| I'm not arguing with any of that
What I'm trying to say is we are better than last season by a long way, and our form in the last decade shows that
I'm trying to dispel some of the doom and gloom on this forum
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| I think Wakefield will be stronger this year than they were last season they now have the fastest back line in the whole of super league with a lot more strength in depth than they ever have before. Williams could be a huge player for them next season. Like Jools said they have a good mix of youth and experience now.
Although a lot of the players have questionable defence - Ben Jones-Bishop and Mason Caton-Brown to name a couple, John Kear prides himself on defence and if he can sort that out they could well do much better than last season.
Our issue is we are probably going to have the smallest squad this year in Superleague so it really is time for the kids to step up.
Kruise Leeming, Nathan Mason and Ollie Roberts are young but they will probably play most games if fit this season as they did last season.
Sam Wood, Tyler Dickinson, Liam Johnson and Darnell McIntosh will probably get 5-10 games each this season depending on injury - Im really looking forward to seeing McIntosh especially.
Matty English and Izaac Farrell will probably be promoted to the first team squad as two of our best prospects - but don't expect to see them this year or next year to be honest but the first team regular training will benefit them massively for the future.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"Well as i have stated elsewhere optimism for me will be top 8, I will be satisfied with that for this season. I don't know any better than anyone else what the Bradford lads will do, But you have to be realistic, they were in the championship for a reason.
I don't dispute all the reasons stated for us having a poor season, but i think jools has a point as well, every other club could come up with their own list. We shall be better this season though.'"
they were in the championship because bulls got relegated from super league and through loyalty decided to try help get them back up
id have hoped if we got relegated last season that some of our players would have stayed too, like alot of hull kr players are doing.
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