Personally thought brough made the wrong decision. You guys had some momentum equalising after being 24-34 down with less than a quarter of the game left, and would've backed you to score either a try or a drop goal. All in all it was a cracking game for the nuetral.

What! You do realise he was faced with a 5 on 2 overlap? What would you want him to do that would stop them scoring?

You are wasting your time. Leroy has taken over the scapegoat mantle since grix hasn't been playing.
I Note that the poster has claimed he missed two "straightforward" tackles in the build up to the try and "numerous" other tackles when the stats show the grand total of tackles missed by him in the game is... 2

There was only one part of the field we needed to be in and converted or not... We would of been back down at our end or worse lost out in a short kick off. There was time plenty of time left for saints to level with us or score a try if we had got the kick over the sticks.

If we had got the kick and defended to win the game I'd of said it was the wrong call at the time.
Just my opinion.
We played very well... No loss to be moaning about that's for sure.

i thought we were fine in midfield and down their end, it was the half ar$ed attempts for 3 of their tries that bothered me.
as for Cudjoe, in attack he is fine and caused saints problems in attack, but his defence is worrying me, however he has shown he is a good defender and i'm sure he'll get that back

But at the same time every player in claret & gold does not defecate Mars bars! I though Cudjoe was pretty poor yesterday. He was hesitant and his positional play was puzzling on occasions.

We could have had this game won by half time, 4 or 5 big chances that we failed to convert, just cant do that at this level, will continue to win nowt till we start taking the chances.

some very slack tackling from us too, unlike us with the best defence.

in the end we could and should have won, ellis needed to convert the try and then brough also had a chance from the half way line.

was that really a knock on from robinson at the death which led to the drop goal?? sure it went back!

very disappointed with this game.

I was disappointed in ellis' miss of the conversion, it was fairly easy really. But more than that the opportunities we bombed. The brough penalty was strange too, I remember thinking at the time, nearly 10mins left, chance of a moving up field, drop goal or even go for the score (may even get another penalty) we scored pretty much every time we got up there in the second half. Was this a lack of confidence with our drop goals? It was a depleted saints there for the taking. It will be interesting to see what someone like hinchcliffe will bring to these situations next year.

Kick at goal was the wrong choice for me too, but hey ho

Another turning point imo was brought hacking on after his chip over, drop on the ball, quick ptb while saints are offside and were in - kicking on meant he was never going to get the ball back and we turn over with a tap 20

The knock on was from Huby. It was a knock on. But I've seen them not given.

Your wasting your time!!

Some people need to need to take their blinkers off and actually watch the game instead of hiding behind their stats.

Watch the game back and tell me that Leroy couldn't have stopped the second try twice over.

And then watch the rest and tell me that there weren't other tackles that he should have made. And by the way, I class trying to grab a shirt and faffing about whilst someone has to come in and make the tackle effective as poor defence.

It's also a shame that having an opinion about a player makes him a scapegoat.

Some might say that Jools has been making Connor a scapegoat by her recent opinions. And actually, I agree with her, however, Leroy hasn't offered anything more than Connor over the past few weeks.

Should we drop Leroy then? Perhaps we should drop brough for his poor decision making. Mmmmm well let's see what Anderson thinks shall we....

Sadly Leroy is a shadow of the player he was 2 years ago, certainly his tackling anyway,

Two bad decisions from Brough last night and some very poor options from a few other players. By and large I was pleased with the way the forwards muscled up, A couple of bad lapses in tackling but we should have been away and clear.

I did like the way we kept fighting back to level the scores rather than giving in, End of the day we beat ourselves in the first 15minutes.

Shame Ellis missed the conversion but it happens, He did have a decent game though.
Just have to beat Catalan away now to buck the trend, If we create chance like last night we have every chance, provided we take them

Based on recent performances, i think there is an argument to drop Leroy.

And personally, I thought the decision to go for goal was correct at the time. With hindsight maybe not.

Using your argument - if he'd have got it, you'd be singing his praises!

It isn't about individuals, it's a team game and as a team we were pretty good yesterday, attack looked threatening - Let's remember we've scored 34 points away at the current champions and the 2nd best defence in the league - defence was down to missing tackles/wrong choices, yes they are individual errors but i don't like this singling one player out because he was poorer than another, so what ? next week Leroy could be brilliant and Murphy poor !! rather than trying to find a player to pin blame on look at the team game and see where we can improve as a team !!

I was disappointed last night as 4 or 5 times we came back at them and when we had them on the rack we lacked composure or game management to turn the game into 2 point, the top teams do this !.

Exactly my point!!!!! But it only applies to some.

i was meaning the knock on before that when robinson lost the ball.

Broughs pen kick had the legs its just wasnt straight enough!

also brough when he kicked the ball ahead when he could have regathered it



anyway we should have won the game in the first quarter that is what im annoyed about not taken the chances, should never have come down to all this

happened a few times this season, catalan at magic we also blew it

This is a bit of a knee jerk reaction to forum posts IMO. Cudjoe is a good player but it doesn't and shouldn't make the forum exempt from criticising his poor play. He is potentially as good a centre as Watkins in my eyes but on current form he is behind him. I am not saying he should be dropped or he should automatically retain his position - just saying that last night he wasn't great.

It was a poor decision for a number of reasons most of all that we did not back our selves to belief we could score a back to back try. The worst case scenario as long as we held onto the ball for the full set would be an attempt at a drop goal and I wonder if the fact we are so ill disciplined (though we were much better last night in the main) and the way Wigan beat Leeds influenced the thinking and we thought one was not enough. I rarely think the "take the two" attitude a lot of our fans have works and in close games that has cost us a few times but as I previously hinted at do we have the confidence and belief to back ourselves until we have that I fear we will be adding more and more to a catalogue of could do betters and if only.

Watching the game I thought the decision to kick for goal was the wrong one as kicking to touch would have meant you keeping the ball and thus keeping Saints down at their own end. And who knows that you wouldn't have scored a 1 pointer. As Ellis had been doing all the kicking I also thought it was strange that Brough decided that he would take the shot at goal.

Apologies.

TBF most refs have a very strange interpretation of the knock on rule that changes from one week to the next. Half the time they haven't a clue what happened and just give the decision based on a whim.

Anderson spot on with these comments

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Found this from a posting I made in 2009 -

"I still think we can finish 3rd, but to do that we've got to stop the errors and start putting a bigger percentage of the chances away. It might seem obvious but that's what separates the winners from the also rans."

Not much change there then!

Nothing at all, that could have been wrote yesterday !!

Too right Daz it could have been written yesterday, the worry is will it still be written tomorrow or the next day, next month,next season