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| Rant? - oh you mean when he used Bentham as a blocker for the full 80 metres - ah right got ya!
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| Quote ="SHIPLEYGIANT"The one that got away'"
You were second best all game and never once took the lead.
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| erm yes I know
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| It's a tactic been used for years, you run towards the ref and this gives you half a yard, then you have to exploit it, which Jerry did.
Best team won though, we just couldn't get our noses in front, never put them under pressure, mind you it was an improvement on last week, which isn't saying alot.
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| well... we let a team who on paper weren't as good as us, out enthuse us, tackle harder and get up from the line quicker than us.... it would have been a travesty if we had won !! they should have been 24-0 up at half time we were lucky to be in it but get back to 12-10 and let danny orr a veteran at best walk in unopposed under the posts.... three out of the four tries were defensive howlers three men hanging on the winger he scores.... same with the second and i've said enougn about danny orr, we are in decline.... took us till the 30th minute to get going...dropped ball, crap passing, three interceptions.... this was virtually the side that beat them 40-18 six weeks ago.... no rain no excuse ..its about time for answers or some serious changes as GRAND FINALISTS we are not !!!!!!! in fact barely top 8 on today !! time tyo ask some serious questions of the players and the coach as our support was fantastic... but let down AGAIN !!!!
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| Same old same old. season after season after season!!!!
Can't see many rushing to save up for season tickets next season, in fact can see a few going on holiday instead of saving up for one
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| To be fair we have improved season on season, we've come off the rails somewhat and god knows why, but lets be fair, we are 4th still. I'd hoped for a good cup run but it didn't happen
Now let's see if Nathan can fix things in the league.
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| Defence was pathetic in the first half. Sad to say summed up by Jermaine's missed tackles. Only robbo, Kyle wood Grix came out well. Attack was pitiful, crabbing across the pitch most of the time. Did we break a tackle?
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| Just to put a dampener on things wardle came out to the bus on crutches. Thought kirmond played well at centre!
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| Out enthused .................................again...........story of our season now i'm afraid !!
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| must admit i didnt think we were out enthused or that bad today, overall i thought it was a good game with 2 committed sides, 4 trys each summed it up, cas better by a whisker maybe, better goalkicking won the game.the way we celebrated after each try didnt look like a poor team spirit, when we lost at cas earlier in the year we were far worse than today to me when we were supposedly a better team, get a grip to me accept we lost a close game on goal kicks.
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| Quote ="goodie"must admit i didnt think we were out enthused or that bad today, overall i thought it was a good game with 2 committed sides, 4 trys each summed it up, cas better by a whisker maybe, better goalkicking won the game.the way we celebrated after each try didnt look like a poor team spirit, when we lost at cas earlier in the year we were far worse than today to me when we were supposedly a better team, get a grip to me accept we lost a close game on goal kicks.'"
If brough would have got those kicks it would have been a travesty! We certainly did not deserve the win today!
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| Quote ="jools"Just to put a dampener on things wardle came out to the bus on crutches. Thought kirmond played well at centre!
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| Well it's closer to his original position on the wing than prop forward!!!!
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| In the forwards Eorl & Griff ran with power.
Robbo & Wood did a lot of probing.
Grix tried ut should have passed more - perhaps he knew that if he did sod all would have happened.
Hodgy played his usual competent game.
Jerry didn't get the ball much - as usual these days.
Some players were downright awful - I'm not going to name them in public.
In one sense it was just like watching J Sharp's game plan - one man drive down the middle. Compare that to Saturday when both teams fluidly passed the ball along the line - even in defence.
Never mind watching a repeat of our game, the players should spend ALL their time watching repeats of Wire v Wigan - & I'm a devout Wigan-hater!!.
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| Missed Fooey out of the credits list.
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| To suggest players are not putting effort in is ridiculous. They tried as hard as they could yesterday. What they are lacking is confidence both in attack and defence. We are failing to build pressure due to taking wrong options and dropping too much ball. I feel that when they are behind this gets worse as they start to panic.
I also do not believe we are having the bounce of the ball. Twice they put in kicks that looked to be going dead but at the last minute span back into play helping them keep us under pressure.
Twice IMO we had 40/20's. Unfortunatly the ref and touch judges did not agree. These decision can change games and when you are not playing well you do not seem to get any of the 50/50 calls.
They do need to work on line speed and goal line defence. Also they are letting the opposition make too many yards after the initial collison as we are not stopping their players legs from driving forward.
In attack we will impriove if we are more patient and play our sets out. It showed the odd time we did get down to Castleford end how easy it was to score but too often through mistakes and the wrong option we failed to do that.
Using a player of Ferguson's size as a first hit up battering ram is totally unfair on him and he is bound to struggle he needs to be running wider out and the big men should be taking the drives.
I do believe though if we can grind out a win the confidence will return and we can get the season back on track.
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| I think we also lack a proper leader of men on the park.
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| With wardle having a bad hammy, maybe the Bruno experiment can come to a close for a while, get him back in the centres with Leroy, play wood at half back with Brough and drop the injured Ferguson. The team needs to change personel, if we keep doing the same things, we will always get the same results.
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| Quote ="the stella kid" Twice IMO we had 40/20's. Unfortunatly the ref and touch judges did not agree. These decision can change games and when you are not playing well you do not seem to get any of the 50/50 calls.
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I didn't see the first one clearly as it was the opposite side to where i was at the time but but the second one which the players challenged I was close to and the touch judge got it spot on, the ball did not reach the 20 line it was about a foot short.
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| Ferguson was playing the role that Andy Raleigh plays well...... but I agree with the comment about running Ferguson outwide but then we have Gilmour and Fa'alago to do that !! with LOD in the middle enforcing.... Oops two were injured and one is being converted to prop the other played in the centres...... So not only Bruno is out of position but we are taking the NZ winning world cup loose forward and making him a prop.... mmmmmmm ?????? the plot thickens...
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| Quote ="jools"I didn't see the first one clearly as it was the opposite side to where i was at the time but but the second one which the players challenged I was close to and the touch judge got it spot on, the ball did not reach the 20 line it was about a foot short.'"
they may have got the call right but it was close and when your luck is out you dont get the bounce of the ball. I also thought there was another decision were to me it appeared Jerry caught the ball cleanly behind the line but we were forced to drop out. I don't think Bentham was too bad yesterday on the whole.
I actually think Lawrence is doing ok in the second row and will get even better with more game time.
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| Quote ="Danril"I think we also lack a proper leader of men on the park.'"
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| Quote ="the stella kid"they may have got the call right but it was close and when your luck is out you dont get the bounce of the ball. I also thought there was another decision were to me it appeared Jerry caught the ball cleanly behind the line but we were forced to drop out. I don't think Bentham was too bad yesterday on the whole.
I actually think Lawrence is doing ok in the second row and will get even better with more game time.'"
i couldnt see where he took the ball but i thought jerry looked to have been tackled in the air - it was a long way from where i was stood though. I agree about lawrence - hes doing good and will improve his try was a fantastic effort as was leroys. If they all put in that little extra effort......
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