Totally agree - I think that in both games Brough showed some spark, but there was nothing around him to catch fire. Ferguson tried, but the rest seemed to be going through the motions.

Whilst I disagree with the concept of the Middle 8s, chiefly because those in them can start recruiting immediately in the knowledge that they are safe for the next year, They do have a positive.

KR were overloaded with ageing, past their best, journeymen. Being relegated negated their contracfted and ensured the opportunity to get rid of them. Adept recruitment of younger keener players and quality experienced ones has produced a team far, far better.

Yes, the Wakefield game was a culture shock to the younger ones who were mesmorised by the pace of Superleague, but last night showed that they are recovering from this. Get rid of your Broughs ASAP and build a younger fitter team under a decent coach.

Didn't we put a bigger score past you at your place on a Monday night 5 years ago?

Don’t think anyone on here is questioning broughs effort- but his one dimensional playmaking, poor passing and decision making is the issue

If everyone showed the same competitive edge that Brough shows every game we would have no problems.
He [uHATES[/u losing - the rest need to adopt the same attitude.

I disagree. The last thing we need is a whole team behaving like brough. 1 having a strop is bad enough let alone 17. I’m pretty sure they all hate losing. He handles his frustrations in the worst possible way- it negatively affects his own game and that of the team.

nothing wrong with the players effort , look at the likes of taai, ikahihifo , ferguson punching holes up the middle for us

all for that to be undone by our crap attacking structure which brough is key too

Just watched the highlights of Leeds v Saints on sky.
What a difference in the way they play compared to us. Runners everywhere, players backing up, gaps created against good defence.
Hope the giants watched it!

The stats for this game make very interesting reading, similar carries,metres, tackles made AND tackles missed (in fact KR missed a couple more than us) for both teams. We offloaded far more often and conceded fewer penalties. On those stats we should win the game- but the difference was they made loads more clean breaks which suggests we aren’t working for each other like the opposition did.
Hinchcliffe made 51 tackles- some are not pulling their weight.

Interesting stuff Jools.

The difference to me was the off the ball stuff. Rarely anyone but the ball carrier and the intended receiver moving, the rest stood still.

hull kr had a 100% completion rate in the first half.. not many teams do that nowadays

. Yet people still get on Hinchcliffe back if the rest of the team were as professional hard working and ran above their weight as he does then the club would be in a lot better position

Give over, Ferguson tries hard, Ikahihifo can be a handfull when he can be bothered but Taai! nah he's poor.

Truth is youre not punching holes, if you were you'd be winning.

Completion rates I don’t have- but if they really did have 100% completion for 40 minutes the final result is even worse- because both teams had the same number of errors in the whole game- so if KR made all their errors in the second half at just two points in it at half time we should have taken those points.

Agree. Just imagine if he hadn’t made all those tackles!

you dont watch us week in week out i do and see our forwards

we cant score thats the problem not our pack

indeed

Two points in it at half time?

Oh yes silly me- sorry was thinking it was closer at half time- though why I thought that I’m not sure- you can guarantee we always concede just before half time.