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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Who are all these doubters? The main issue here is some posters think around 33 errors - the worst in SL - needs significant attention while others think it far less important.
Perhaps we should give up on Eden then and sign a proven FB like Wellens on a long term deal
I hope eden's development track is better than Leroy's. ATM I would select Murph over Cudjoe.'"
Life would be VERY boring if we all agreed - Murph is not anywhere near the class of Leroy BTW nor does he have the potential of Eden
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| Quote ="devoniangiant"Life would be VERY boring if we all agreed - Murph is not anywhere near the class of Leroy BTW nor does he have the potential of Eden
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When both play top end then leroy offers more than murph in attack. Murph is a far better defender. Unfortunately leroy's 'class' is so rarely on show and murph is a consistently good player.
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| Quote ="keefie"One thing that Crapsinger (abbr.) fails to grasp is, at the moment NB regards GE as a 'work in progress' and as such, errors are to be expected.
In a perfect world young lads would reach maturity possessing all the skills possible to achieve perfection in their chosen sport. Unfortunately we don't enjoy perfection in anything we do, so I would suggest that some sort of balance be observed when offering opinion on a young talent who can only be abversely affected by some of the posts on this board.
Gregg, Murph, Leroy,Gerry, Bob, Joe and Bruno are our future and I am delighted by the prospect
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What you fail to grasp is.....rugby league. Players make errors but making by far the most in SL when your involvement is far lower than other ball players is dreadful. Hiding behind the notion of 'project player' 'work in progress' does not cut it.
Your point about lack of balance is well made. The numpties who act like the three wise monkeys when it comes to GEs performance errors do need to get a grip. As for a player being adversley influenced by comments on here....how lame!
I guess i agree with Wayne Bennett when he uses the american sport quote of "defence wins titles, offence sells tickets". I want us to win a title now rather than get excited about a few neat attacking plays and jam tomorrow. Part of title winning defence is not making errors in your own 20 / 30 M....this appears to be an 'unpalatable truth' for some Giants fans.
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| I want I want. How long have you been supporting giants?
And if all you want is titles why have you been supporting giants?
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| Sorry just realised I've made a massive faux pas - incorrect use of the word supporting.
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| What's the big deal here? Both sides of the perceived "argument" are correct. Eden is clearly a talented and exciting player. Also, he clearly makes too many errors. There's nothing wrong with stating either of those points.
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| Quote ="jools"I want I want. How long have you been supporting giants?
And if all you want is titles why have you been supporting giants?'"
Where have I said all I want is titles? Show me. Or are you resorting to making up my posts? oh dear. Tilting at windmills
I don't think supporting the Giants and wanting titles should be mutually exclusive. maybe you do. I do think winning titles and making lots of errors in your 20/30M (especially when the opposition dont even have possession) are probably mutually exclusive.
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"What's the big deal here? Both sides of the perceived "argument" are correct. Eden is clearly a talented and exciting player. Also, he clearly makes too many errors. There's nothing wrong with stating either of those points.'"
All the posts I have seen suggestiing that Eden needs to make significant cuts in his errors have not questioned GEs ability. Quite the contrary. I was sooo critical that I suggested that if GE cuts his errors he will soon be an England player (harsh I know )
There are some posters who are not only happy to plod along with all these 'learning' errors. they resort to saying posters like me want GE dropped, that we know nothing about the game and even question whether we are genuine supporters (pathetic i know). All because as Giants supporters some posters think that around 3 errors a game, mainly in our 20/30M and mainly when the opposition do not have possession is not consistent with winning titles.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"All the posts I have seen suggestiing that Eden needs to make significant cuts in his errors have not questioned GEs ability. Quite the contrary. I was sooo critical that I suggested that if GE cuts his errors he will soon be an England player (harsh I know
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There are some posters who are not only happy to plod along with all these 'learning' errors. they resort to saying posters like me want GE dropped, that we know nothing about the game and even question whether we are genuine supporters (pathetic i know). All because as Giants supporters some posters think that around 3 errors a game, mainly in our 20/30M and mainly when the opposition do not have possession is not consistent with winning titles.'" Did you see Billy Slater in the State Of Origin game this week? The best full back in the world. Made some reet howlers.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Did you see Billy Slater in the State Of Origin game this week? The best full back in the world. Made some reet howlers.'"
i see what you're getting at If we sign the entire Queensland squad and GE becomes the best full back in the world then we could win something...agreed.
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