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| Oh and back on topic, one rumour i've heard is that where looking at Miles Greenwood from Hailfax...dunno how much there is in that !!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"[uLeroy puts his body on the line every week [/u- just like every other Rugby League player..the point i'm making is we have a good squad , a good hard working squad so why the need to pull 1 or 2 individuals out of a succesful group ?'"
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| thought this was supposed to be about comings and goings? apart from griffin possibly going does anyone actually know of any new signings rather than arguing over leroys best position or lack of
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| Quote ="Ceebeejames"that is where we can agree to differ.'"
Never played then?
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| Quote ="Ceebeejames"Pulling him to bits? - Bullsh*t. Check out recent match videos at fb..how often does he let the ball bounce? When does he ever tackle around the legs and when does he run the ball back fast and hard at fb? That in the play offs he showed great speed when put into space [uon the wing[/u is not in question.
With options available at fb and centre I would only consider leroy on the wing (but Hodg and Jerry should not be dropped atm). However I think Nathan B wil put him at centre for the French game.'"
I have already stated that Leroy should not play fullback. But I also feel that his skills are wasted on the wing, as for his tackling technique-have you ever considered this is a tactic and has been instructed his job is to slow down the play of the ball of players with speed and agility, he holds the player up whilst a second comes in thus allowing our forwards to get into position before the tackle is completed it's a tactic all teams are using following on from the refs clamping down on wrestling. the last time a giants fb ran the ball back fast and hard was a long time ago- even Paul Reilly looked nonchalant at times.
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| Quote ="jools"Griffin is a dependable player, he is still contracted to us and him earning an England cap means that if anybody wants him they will have to pay decent money.
As for the idea we kept sculthorpe- brilliant, seeing as he didn't play a single game the following year at Bradford we made exactly the right decision. With a squad our size we need to keep players like Raleigh in case of imjury he can do a decent job but is cheap!'"
whos to say that would of happened to sculthorpe if we got him?
the club wanted to keep him, bradford offered big money so he went. left us short of a prop and in my opinion we are still short of a prop. thats why we see the likes of horne, faiumu and raleigh having to play out of position
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| Is it arrogance/attitude or nerves with Leroy? He seems apprehensive sometimes.
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| Quote ="Ceebeejames"He can play in several positions and is a softc*ck in all of them. On the wing his frailties are least damaging.
He is a disasterous fb - refuses to catch high balls , letting them bounce. When he returns the ball we watch him jog hesitantly. he is disinclined (i am being polite here) to tackle.'"
yes we were ahead v batley when cudjoe scored but it was hardly comfortable..cudjoe put the game to bed with a magic try.
wouldnt think we was talking about an england international here would you
have you not got another thread to start about wakefield by the way?
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| Some ridiculous comments, Leroy had an average start to the season but played well against Saints and Cas. He is probably the most naturally talented of our backs. I think he is a talented defender too! Griffin is our best prop for me. Has had a great season.
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| Just on the Griffin rumour it may have some legs . I was told last season that we were trying to sell him to Hull Fc so that we could get Willie Mason.
Between Mason and Sculthorpe ( with his injury problems) it looks like we avoided making two bad signings.
Would like to Keep Griffin but in Nathan we trust. At the begining of this season i am sure that there was a suggestion that we were possibly in for a top Aussie prop
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| Leroy has the skill,footwork and the hands,let the other outside backs do the donkey work on defence,of which they are very solid.NB had it right last year swapping Leroy between centre on attack and wing on defence.Then he changed it,but how many breaks/tries did Leroy set up for Jermaine in the early weeks before he switched him to the other side of the field.
Leroy is class for mine,but if he wants to be a truly great centre he will probably have to get more committed to the defence.
Don't like him as a fb now,and in all honesty don't think he wants to be there any more.
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| Sam Thaiday anyone??
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| with simpson here, i think our quota is full
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| I know but if someone on our quota goes home would you have Thaiday?
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| Sam Thaiday would be chased by everyone I would think. Strangely enough I know a lad up here who spent some time in Brisbane and knows him personally and still keeps in contact with him now. Maybe I should go have a word with him!
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| Quote ="Fifi"I know but if someone on our quota goes home would you have Thaiday?'"
quality player. Of course I would!!
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| Yes............
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| Good - that's sorted then..
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| 26 yr old queensland and australian rep player coming to england just as the salary cap raises to 7.5m, i very much doubt it
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| Like to see Paul Gallen at our place. Runs hard, tackles hard and can play 80mins
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| ....we can but dream....
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| Quote ="Gahan"Never played then?'"
never watched leroy recently then?
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| Quote ="jools"I have already stated that Leroy should not play fullback. But I also feel that his skills are wasted on the wing, as for his tackling technique-have you ever considered this is a tactic and has been instructed his job is to slow down the play of the ball of players with speed and agility, he holds the player up whilst a second comes in thus allowing our forwards to get into position before the tackle is completed it's a tactic all teams are using following on from the refs clamping down on wrestling.
[Yeah i have considered it thanks. has been instructed to ponce about when players are going past him and attemting to score...somehow i doubt it. Has been instructed to keep letting the ball bounce off bombs?
the last time a giants fb ran the ball back fast and hard was a long time ago- even Paul Reilly looked nonchalant at times.
[At times being the operative word. And BH frequently ran the ball back at speed
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| Quote ="Ceebeejames"never watched leroy recently then?'"
As many times as you this season at a guess but i got respect for every single player in any league that puts a shirt on and crosses the whitewash.
Anyway back on topic now please, comings and goings please.
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| Quote ="Gahan"As many times as you this season at a guess but i got respect for every single player in any league that puts a shirt on and crosses the whitewash.
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What has respect got to do with whether a player has some significant weaknesses?
If you were at wakey you will have seen his tag rugby attempt to stop Luke george scoring. i do not want to 'derail' this thread so if anyone wants to explain why leroy's defensive effort on the george try was good defence maybe they will pm me _ i just cannot see it.
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