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| Arguably committed = undeniably late.
Black is white.
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| When I saw the tackle I thought 'u dirty pie eating..... he's off here ha ha ha....'
The ref bottled it, It was late & reckless. At least on report!
The RFL should be getting in touch with O'Loughlin not Nathan Brown.
Good on Nathan Brown for sending in tag team of Mason & Fal'ogo,
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| I think some Wigan fans underestimate Mason too. His punch was borne of frustration and he shouldn't have done it but he was provoked with a bit of needle and fell for it. Ask Jamie Peacock if he thinks Mason is a walkover. Just because McIlorum walks around Wigan town centre like a dog with two dicks doesn't make him a hard man. When it comes to biff Mase is up there, he wont be intimidated by anyone.
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| Someone remind me when the next Hudds/Wigan game is. Got to be nailed on for the cameras.
See it now.
'For people in attendance and the thousands watching around the country, the time has come. Ladies and Gentlemen Lllleeeeeettttttttssssss get ready to rumble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| What's all this about sin binning?
If it was judged to be foul play then he can't be sin binned. The rules changed years ago when Greg McCallum was in charge of the referees.
O'Loughlin was late and hit the chest with his left arm but his right arm caught Robinson in the face in the collision.
As for Brown, he should know better.
If he wants to think and say that, keep it in the dressing rooms.
He could well have put the marker down for Mason and Fa'logo to become targets. They may well be hard but they won't be able to take it each and every game for 80 minutes.
Anyone remember Mark Carroll? Aussie hardman who also opened his mouth and said he was going to sort out the northern softies.
Not fair on his players, Brown saying that!
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| Ted dont worry about Mase Fal,ogo those boys can look after them selfs, and the difference between Caroll and these two is Caroll spouted how tough he was and those two havent.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Someone remind me when the next Hudds/Wigan game is. Got to be nailed on for the cameras.
See it now.
'For people in attendance and the thousands watching around the country, the time has come. Ladies and Gentlemen Lllleeeeeettttttttssssss get ready to rumble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
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In a few weeks at Huddersfield...
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"No he won't, it was a late arguably commited tackle on a player that had just passed the ball and was not high. To the letter of the law it is a pen and nothing more. If Robinson had kicked the ball it would have been a sin binning. Thaler dealt with it correctly at the time.
Oh and Nathan Brown is a Mard pr**k'"
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| Brown's comments mean that everyone from here on in will be going for Mason and Fa'alogo?
Surely if you're suggesting that you should really start the post with "Once upon a time..."
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| Quote ="Danril"Arguably committed = undeniably late.
Black is white.'"
In your opinion it was late, in my opinion it wasnt, guess we'll just have to agree to disagree but either way it wont be a ban. I will be gobsmacked and incensed if he is up before the beak but even if he is it will only be a caution and that would be due to soft a**e Brown whinging to the world press that you are not allowed to put big hits on small blokes.
I would assume he will be dropping Mason this week as surely he doesnt like the fact that he gave Mcilorum (small in stature - big in reputation) a smack for nothing?
How would it go if a small bloke put a big shot on a big bloke like leuleuai on Maurie or Briscoe on Bailey, would he dislike that??
I agree though its a big risk putting fa'alogo and Mason on such a pedestal, there will be many an enforcer just looking for an opportunity to get one up on them, they may be able to "handle themselves" but I'm sure there are a few that can handle themselves better.
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| You have no concept of time if you do not think the hit was late.
McIlorum a smack for nothing? Your sight isn't up to much either then!
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| A touch of the Jose Mourhino from Mr Brown I think.
He started by complementing the ref "I thought the referee had a great game" and then came up with his analogy.
The clear message was take another cheap late high/accidently high (let's face it Lockers tackling technique at the best of times is woeful and he frequently comes up with high shots) and you will get a slap.
That tells Wigan that in two weeks if they try it again there will be a bit of Biff and will probably discourage them from doing it. It's also going to get more fire in the Giants side for the rematch.
In relation to hard men I don't think that Mason and Fa'alongo have much to worry about from Wigan. Feka would be knackered trying to catch someone to hit them (17 minutes game time on my watch - shocking) and Stuart Glass Jaw Fielden hardly meets that criteria. For me Wigan's hardest player is Thomas Leuluai and he's hardly Tim Street.
Nice to see a bit of socceresque showmanship from Brown and let's hope it works.
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| It's all been blown out of proportion anyway this IMO. I remember the piece when he was in charge of St George and they played Melbourne, the press blow it up into some big tanty-esque type rant where in reality it wasn't and he was actually making a fair point.
The players of both sides wont be reading much into it I don't think, it just gives people something to post drivel about on messageboards!
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| Quote ="Danril"It's all been blown out of proportion anyway this IMO. I remember the piece when he was in charge of St George and they played Melbourne, the press blow it up into some big tanty-esque type rant where in reality it wasn't and he was actually making a fair point.
The players of both sides wont be reading much into it I don't think, it just gives people something to post drivel about on messageboards!'"
Unfortunately it makes no difference at all how good a point he was making, he just cannot get away with saying it! It was the hit that was blown out of proportion.
the hit was not late, watch it again at full speed. I did at the ground and my vision is 20/20!
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| Quote ="wigsey"A touch of the Jose Mourhino from Mr Brown I think.
He started by complementing the ref "I thought the referee had a great game" and then came up with his analogy.
The clear message was take another cheap late high/accidently high (let's face it Lockers tackling technique at the best of times is woeful and he frequently comes up with high shots) and you will get a slap.
That tells Wigan that in two weeks if they try it again there will be a bit of Biff and will probably discourage them from doing it. It's also going to get more fire in the Giants side for the rematch.
In relation to hard men I don't think that Mason and Fa'alongo have much to worry about from Wigan. Feka would be knackered trying to catch someone to hit them (17 minutes game time on my watch - shocking) and Stuart Glass Jaw Fielden hardly meets that criteria. For me Wigan's hardest player is Thomas Leuluai and he's hardly Tim Street.
Nice to see a bit of socceresque showmanship from Brown and let's hope it works.'"
Ha Ha, what a tool!! Talk about my dads bigger than your dad!! I can't believe you are analysing wigans players as to wether they could handle Mason or Fa'alongo!! You obviously haven't seen Feka in a bad mood and Stuart "glass jaw" Fielden as you refer to him got a smack that would have dropped any RL player. I would have loved Mcilorum to lose the plot instead of laughing at Mason, me thinks Mason would have had a shock!
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| The hit is late.
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| Quote ="Danril"The hit is late.'"
In your opinion
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| If the hit wasn't late then brown has said nothing wrong. If we go in like lockers did on Robinson the pieeaters and the rl should have nothing to complain about. If it's fair I look forward to mason and fa'olgo not pulling out when committed to the tackle. If it's good enough for Wigan then it's good enough for the giants!!!!!!
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| You can debate if the hit was high but how can anyone possibly say that it was not late.
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| The hit wasn't high. It was late.
I'll be honest, being a "little" player myself, I took a fair few hits like this in Amateur RL, and I'd have been perfectly happy taking that particular hit.
The thing to do is respond to it by telling the player "Hit me again!" or blowing him a kiss, winding him up for the potential of more penalties or the mistake, and then you can laugh at them. This whole getting "Bigger Brother" to come and stick up for the "little 'uns" is nothing more than an insult to the likes of Robinson, Rob Burrow, etc.
They're RL players, for chuff's sake, not namby-pamby footballers (actors) or wrestlers (actors).
Back to O'Louglin, probably a warning due to the lateness, more action probably to be taken against Brown.
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| A little late, not high, not dangerous. Penalty, no sin bin, no red card, no report - ref got it correct.
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| Quote ="ShelleyGiant"And not late in your "unbiased opinion"
It looked late at the match and looked later than a No 22 bus when I've just watched it on the TV, O'laughlin is a dirty, niggling p*llock at the best of times, why not just accept it instead of trying to justify it. Water under the bridge now, see you in a fortnight.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"A little late, not high, not dangerous. Penalty, no sin bin, no red card, no report - ref got it correct.'"
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| You'd be happy to take a late hit like that?
This is beyond ridiculous!
The lateness of it makes it dangerous IMO. Robinson didn't know it was coming and there is potential for injury because of that. Whiplash type injuries etc.
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