i doubt the gate revenue will be higher with the cheap season tickets counting for a big % of the Giants supporters increase. Those who would have been paying ie the away fans are down. I would have thought though that there was big increase in other income due to merchandising, food and booze, the CC run and prize money and being 3rd in SL is a nic elittle earner.

I would imagine when they post profits next year we will find out whether the club is growing finacially.

So despite giving away your season tickets you manage to attract an average of 81 extra people - good effort

ATEOTD there were some big offers last season and they haven't been this season. You replace, for example, the Catalan game that was free admission and remove it from the crowd average and replace with this seasons Catalan attendance and this has a big impact on the average gate. Replace the Leeds and Bradford fixtures, both of which had big offers, and see what the crowd average is then.

You obviously cannot read the 4th post down or are not bright enough to understand it.

Assuming that in our previous crowds say away fans accounted for 15% of the crowd. A reduction of 25% in away fans would mean that we put on nearly 500 Giants fans on an 8000 crowd. That would give us a rise in Giants fans of 7.1 % over the season. the second best in SL

We are building up Giants fans and that has worked. Not relying on away fans who do not travel to the Galpharm anymore because it is no longer a guaranteed two points and that we had a LOT of games moved for SKY.

Getting to the CC Final certainly wont have done us any harm but may make it a bit harder to discern whether we really are growing financially. We'd have to look at more than this years and last years figures to really get a feel.

Attempted trolling - poor effort.

This year no freebie versus Catalans + more televised games + every other W Yorks club posting a fall. It is actually very positive.

But counter that with your most successful year for quite a few - the challenge cup run and a very good league position would suggest that you actually haven't managed to attract that many new suppporters (or glory hunters etc...)

I am merely wondering what will happen now that your season tickets are back to more market levels for next year.

No, you are merely a troll.

Our crowd levels are up, our performances are up. EOS.

And our gates are up when virtually all others are down. And we have had more sky games (this hits us harder than many clubs as we have to move the day and time of our games).

Sorry if understanding all the figures does not fit your trolling thesis, but there you go.

Your final comment illustrates your ignorance. First there is not a single 'market rate' for STs. An absurd comment. Second you seem to have no idea what our prices are in 2010..is a £60 or £95 ST what you mean by 'market rate'. Somehow I doubt it.

You have got to laugh. Now someone finds fault with us because our rising crowds are not rising quick enough. Yet clubs with falling gates are not visited by this guy

I'd be more worried that you cannot count

YES GET IT RIGHT STEVE 88 NOT 81

Everybody seems to forget that we have two extra teams in the league. It pushes the average attendance down further because the attendance against those teams (celtic and salford) are below our average!

So to have an increased figure on last year is great!

Spot on, now we need someone with magic calculator to work out what the average gates are excluding Celtic and Salford.

without the celtic and salford games our average would be 8,948!

there are a few factors which hasn't helped our crowds, mainly friday nights etc
hull kr 6,346
castleford 6,010

were both friday night games played in apalling conditions, a regular sunday afternoon game would have seen 7,500 minimum for both games

bradford 7,982 friday night in poor conditions, with no more than 1000 away fans, normally bradford would bring at least 2,000 supporters if that was on a sunday,so i reckon we could have potentially pulled in 9,000 for that
also we've had 6 homes games that weren't played on our normal game time of 3pm sundays,how many other clubs can say this?

but, the biggest thing for me is that we finished the regular season above 11 other teamsregardless of how many season tickets we "gave away"

Thought Bradford was a sunday eveing kick off for you?

yes it was,my mistake, thanks for correcting

Thanks Meast well that's a good increase from 7820 to 8948 coupled with the lower away following (c25%) compared to the previous season then we have seen a heathy improvement.

I also recall many opposition clubs fans commenting on the fact we have taken far greater numbers than previous seasons too.

We're massive

Of course we are!!! We're officially one of the big 3 clubs now.

IIRC our game with you at the Galpharm pulled in over 10k and that was a friday night game on sky?

We always take good support to the KFC

thats why i didnt include it, that was a good crowd for a friday night game,i was trying to highlight how friday night games usually have an adverse effect on our crowds

catalan crowds are most impressive this season, they have gone from 5/6 thousand in 06 to close to 10 k in 2009! shows expansionism works, i also think celtics crowds have been pretty good considering the shambles of a ground they have been in this year.

Considering the fact that we clawed our way back up from DIV 1 to SL and have improved our crowds year on year since, also a bleak financial year for a lot of people, it is a great achievement however much the tickets were for the past season.
In fact if Ken Davy could get a 12000 crowd at every home game I am sure he would bring the tickets down to £5 a match.

And how many speccies do you think Saints would have if they had been down in the basement losing more matches than they won. Be thankful you have been near the top of the tree for countless number of years and won many trophies.
If Huddersfield had the same success as Saints over the years, we would be getting far more than Saints are getting.

You shouldnt read into this years stats, as this year the recession as hit most teams, next year with your improving side and the trip to wembley you will see bigger crowds next year thats when you will see how well your doing, the futures bright

Like at the wire with the smith revolutionicon_smile.gif

Last years average attendance is totally skewed by the 15k odd who turned up on Free tickets for the Leeds game.

take that out along with poor shows from away teams and this seasons improvement is impressive