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| Quote ="Fishsta"No, I sent him a selection of pictures of the moment of impact of a slightly late hit to Robinson's chest.
LOL!!!
Even more LOL!!
Unfortunately you picked on the wrong Wigan fan=#FF0000, I AM unbiased, and call for discipline from all quarters of Rugby League, including my own club. Unfortunately you are so predictable, transparent and biased you can't see it, and some of your fans even dare to stick up for Mason's exceptionally dirty play. How you can have the nerve to say we're biased is frankly staggering.
And why exactly would we "tanty" as you put it?
We lost by two points, despite many many decisions going against us. A team that should have been down to 12 men (Mason, obviously). Partly our fault, obviously, as we lowered our game to your level instead of forcing you to rise to meet us.
It was probably Wigan's worst performance of the year, and one of Huddersfield's best... yet still you won by only 2 points?
Personally I take heart from that, not "tanty". Mason got what he deserved (well, some of), and I suspect you will drop below us in the fairplay index, where you belong, especially with a coach who has announced he is an advocate of thuggism.
It is good to see the Wigan-trained contingent of your club are doing so well.'"
But quite clearly delusional if you think you are unbiased and then write the rest of your post.
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| Quote ="Kernel"And the lowest form of wit is..
Small club with a small club mentality won over a top class rugby team last weekend. I cry for the game when thugs and wind up merchants like Huddersfield can beat a top team like Wigan. No wonder B Hodgson is leaving to play for a real rugby team.'"
ah but.. ....
small club that has beaten a top class rugby team on their own ground in the last 3 years! not to mention the victories at our home ground in the last 10 years!
small club who have appeared in more cup finals than top class rugby team in the last 5 years!
small club who have finished the regular season higher than top class rugby team in 2 of the last 4 seasons
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| Quote ="Fishsta"And as I said, IF we were so "one-eyed", we would have said it wasn't late at all. We conceeded that it was late and got the penalty it deserved.
See your PM.'"
So you agreed with me and still arguing with me
Pretty pictures, seen em a million times, still ended up high, you missed a couple out in the sequence
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| Quote ="Fishsta"No, I sent him a selection of pictures of the moment of impact of a slightly late hit to Robinson's chest.
LOL!!!
Even more LOL!!
Unfortunately you picked on the wrong Wigan fan, I AM unbiased, and call for discipline from all quarters of Rugby League, including my own club. Unfortunately you are so predictable, transparent and biased you can't see it, and some of your fans even dare to stick up for Mason's exceptionally dirty play. How you can have the nerve to say we're biased is frankly staggering.
And why exactly would we "tanty" as you put it?
We lost by two points, despite many many decisions going against us. A team that should have been down to 12 men (Mason, obviously). Partly our fault, obviously, as we lowered our game to your level instead of forcing you to rise to meet us.
It was probably Wigan's worst performance of the year, and one of Huddersfield's best... yet still you won by only 2 points?
Personally I take heart from that, not "tanty". Mason got what he deserved (well, some of), and I suspect you will drop below us in the fairplay index, where you belong, especially with a coach who has announced he is an advocate of thuggism.
It is good to see the Wigan-trained contingent of your club are doing so well.'"
not wanting to pour fuel on this fire but i think you have just proved in that statement that you are biased and wear cherry and white goggles and are indeed still chewing on those sour grapes !!
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| Quote ="Gahan"So you agreed with me and still arguing with me'"
Actually, you agreed with me and still called me and every other Wigan fan "one-eyed". If we share the same point of view, then you are also one-eyed by definition, surely?
Quote Pretty pictures, seen em a million times, still ended up high, you missed a couple out in the sequence'"
Actually, no, I didn't. They are the moment before impact where you can see O'Loughlin's arms across his own chest, and the moment of impact where they hit Luke Robinson... in the chest.
Only the biased Huddersfield fans thought it was high. If you claim I've missed some out, prove it.
Quote ="Danril"LOL!
The prosecution rests having had the accused hang himself on their behalf!
Keep on digging! With every extra word you're only confirming everything, so you keep on going!'"
Ah, that old chestnut. You can't actually dispute any of my points, so instead go for the fallicious reasoning that anyone who argues with you is biased. What you fail to realise (or hope that everyone else forgets) is that the level of your bias is such that anyone who ISN'T biased is going to argue with what you say.
I suggest you take your calls of bias to the people who claimed Mason hadn't done anything wrong.
Quote ="GIANT DAZ"not wanting to pour fuel on this fire but i think you have just proved in that statement that you are biased and wear cherry and white goggles and are indeed still chewing on those sour grapes !!'"
Why? Wigan played badly, correct, Huddersfield played well, correct, Mason should have been sent off, correct, the Wigan-raised part of your team combined very well especially for Robinson's try, correct, and you only won by two points, correct... what is biased about those statements of fact?
Unless you want to argue that Wigan were fantastic, or Huddersfield were terrible, or Mason didn't do anything wrong, or the likes of Brown, Wild, Hodgson and Robinson are terrible players or that you won by 20?
No? Thought not somehow.
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| Quote We lost by two points, despite many many decisions going against us'"
like what?
the only dodgy decision i can remember was the one to hand you possesion back after you had already beein given advantage and blew it !!
Quote A team that should have been down to 12 men'"
We were, twice, your team failed to capitalise, no one else is to blame for that !!
Quote Partly our fault, obviously, as we lowered our game to your level instead of forcing you to rise to meet us. '"
hmm ok, again - your team's fault no one else, no one made you 'lower' yourselfs !
Quote It was probably Wigan's worst performance of the year, and one of Huddersfield's best'"
dont kid yourself mate, we've played lots better than that this season !
Quote yet still you won by only 2 points? '"
but your the mighty, all conquering Wigan - you shouldn't be losing by any margin , especcially against these 'little' teams !
Quote Personally I take heart from that'"
your massive club lost to a 'little' club after being 10-0 up with an extra man - i would be livid !
Quote and I suspect you will drop below us in the fairplay index, where you belong'"
now, this is where u start sounding bitter
Quote especially with a coach who has announced he is an advocate of thuggism'"
Now this is beginning to sound seriously like sour grapes !!
Quote It is good to see the Wigan-trained contingent of your club are doing so well'"
Yep, cos your massive club were that good they didn't need them so we took them .....and they've come back to haunt your club 3 years running !!.
Now, show us something thats suggests your not bitter or have any sour grapes towards our club beating yours ........Again !!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"like what?
the only dodgy decision i can remember was the one to hand you possesion back after you had already beein given advantage and blew it !!'"
How about not giving Mason the red card he deserved?
Quote We were, twice, your team failed to capitalise, no one else is to blame for that !!'"
Perhaps I should have been clearer for you... 12 men FOR THE REST OF THE MATCH.
Quote hmm ok, again - your team's fault no one else, no one made you 'lower' yourselfs !'"
Exactly what I said.. we lowered ourselves when we shouldn't have. Bad performance. If you're trying to somehow "show me up", you're failing miserably.
Quote dont kid yourself mate, we've played lots better than that this season !'"
And don't you kid yourself, so have we.
Quote but your the mighty, all conquering Wigan - you shouldn't be losing by any margin , especcially against these 'little' teams !'"
Aw, that's nice of you to say so. I hope you wouldn't be trying to suggest that I think in such a way, seeing as I've never even HINTED at such a one-sided attitude.
Quote your massive club lost to a 'little' club after being 10-0 up with an extra man - i would be livid !'"
That's you, though.
Quote now, this is where u start sounding bitter
Now this is beginning to sound seriously like sour grapes !!'"
What, because you should drop below us in the Fairplay table? You should, you conceeded 20 points on bans alone. We play a much cleaner game than you, not at all sour grapes. And as for Brown, it's a wonder your players have respect for him after he decided he was leaving, and then because he didn't get a decent job offer anywhere else decided to stay again... Now THAT'S sour grapes for someone.
Quote Yep, cos your massive club were that good they didn't need them so we took them .....and they've come back to haunt your club 3 years running !!.'"
And that's because they're damn fine players, some of whom I wish we hadn't let go. But at least they're getting some good experience in, maybe a couple of them will head back our way in the future.
Quote Now, show us something thats suggests your not bitter or have any sour grapes towards our club beating yours ........Again !!'"
Well, maybe the fact that I've given praise where it's due, and dished out criticism where it's deserved, rather than responding with insults and insisting a player guilty of extremely bad sportsmanship shouldn't receive any ban at all, unlike some of your fellow "fans".
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| Jeeze, is this guy for real, it's almost a week ago, you lost, we smashed you, move on
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Jeeze, is this guy for real, it's almost a week ago, you lost, we smashed you, move on
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Give a little consideration for him, it is not every year you get beat by a small team.
Well only 2010
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Jeeze, is this guy for real, it's almost a week ago, you lost, we smashed you, move on
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How long ago was the O'Loughlin tackle on Robinson?
And "smashed"? Really? Not the best choice of words. Stood on, maybe, but hardly "smashed".
Quote ="Durham Giant"Give a little consideration for him, it is not every year you get beat by a small team.
Well only 2010
oh and 2009
and 2008'"
I've never called you a small team, but hey ho. The League positions say it all, take pleasure in being one of the (few) teams that's managed to scrape a win past us. We eased 2 past you earlier in the year, but I suppose that's all forgotten... apart from the O'Loughlin incident, obviously.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"How long ago was the O'Loughlin tackle on Robinson?
And "smashed"? Really? Not the best choice of words. Stood on, maybe, but hardly "smashed".
I've never called you a small team, but hey ho. The League positions say it all, take pleasure in being one of the (few) teams that's managed to scrape a win past us. We eased 2 past you earlier in the year, but I suppose that's all forgotten... apart from the O'Loughlin incident, obviously.'"
just remember if you dont win the grand final your no better than any other team in super league
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| Quote ="Fishsta"How long ago was the O'Loughlin tackle on Robinson?
And "smashed"? Really? Not the best choice of words. Stood on, maybe, but hardly "smashed".
I've never called you a small team, but hey ho. The League positions say it all, take pleasure in being one of the (few) teams that's managed to scrape a win past us. We eased 2 past you earlier in the year, but I suppose that's all forgotten... apart from the O'Loughlin incident, obviously.'"
trying to wind us up fishsta ??
Naah!
You couldnt wind a clockwork racing car !
Now get back in yer cot -be a good lad and go to sleep!!(or you might meet us in t`playoffs!!)-then youll be on here all night!!!
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| I suggest you PM the full clip instead of two or three frames of a full motion picture. A picture paints a thousands words; a film consists of many hundred pictures which show what you don't want to see or else you'd show the film clip instead of isolated frames.
In your next life in which, hopefully and most likely, you will have more sense (goldfish anyone?) you'll suss what a div you're being so you wont bother to reply you'll realise you've piffed. In the meantime I'll wait for your non biased reply in which we can all carry on laughing at you and the Wigan fans who could be a4sed to listen to the hooter of defeat (as well as those who left a game on the precipice of victory or defeat) and can feel another level of shame of having eventually being not only soundly beaten but be represented by someone with a new low in terms of mental back'ardsness.
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| Quote ="Danril"I suggest you PM the full clip instead of two or three frames of a full motion picture. A picture paints a thousands words; a film consists of many hundred pictures which show what you don't want to see or else you'd show the film clip instead of isolated frames. '"
PM with a clip sent. It proves exactly what I said... it was to the chest, nothing more.
You know, normally, someone wanting to disprove something would find the evidence themselves. You went for the flimsy defence of my "evidence wasn't good enough", but unfortunately (for you) the clip I've sent you only strengthens my case.
Quote In your next life in which, hopefully and most likely, you will have more sense (goldfish anyone?) you'll suss what a div you're being so you wont bother to reply you'll realise you've piffed. '"
That's very good, hurl insults around like a big man instead of trying to win the argunment. How very grown up.
Quote In the meantime I'll wait for your non biased reply in which we can all carry on laughing at you and the Wigan fans who could be a4sed to listen to the hooter of defeat (as well as those who left a game on the precipice of victory or defeat) and can feel another level of shame of having eventually being not only soundly beaten but be represented by someone with a new low in terms of mental back'ardsness.'"
And... breathe.
Again, "soundly beaten"? That's what Castleford did to you, not what you did to Wigan. You SCRAPED a win, controversially.
You can hurl abuse, you can call me names, but you can't change facts.
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| i dont know about anyone else but i could get used to scraping wins against these mighty top class rugby teams. like. . . .
13/09/2009 Huddersfield 48 V 16 Wigan
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27/03/2009 Wigan 8 V 22 Huddersfield
or even
25/07/2008 Wigan 4 V 34 Huddersfield
or what about
15/04/2007 Huddersfield 41 V 16 Wigan
yeah i'd take that, thats not to mention the "close" games we've won either ,yep im sure we could all dream of the odd scraped victory over the mighty wigan
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| Quote ="Fishsta"PM with a clip sent. It proves exactly what I said... it was to the chest, nothing more.
You know, normally, someone wanting to disprove something would find the evidence themselves. You went for the flimsy defence of my "evidence wasn't good enough", but unfortunately (for you) the clip I've sent you only strengthens my case.
That's very good, hurl insults around like a big man instead of trying to win the argunment. How very grown up.
And... breathe.
Again, "soundly beaten"? That's what Castleford did to you, not what you did to Wigan. You SCRAPED a win, controversially.
You can hurl abuse, you can call me names, but you can't change facts.'"
Jeez pal, you need to think about your blood pressure. Let it go - move on.
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| wigan have bored everyone to death all season anyway so what there topping the table. so did saints for the past 3 years but did they win it NO they came unstuck and so will wigan its allready started and thats why there so defensive because they know there bottle is going again
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| Anyone else got a PM from the biased special lad?
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| Quote ="meast"i dont know about anyone else but i could get used to scraping wins against these mighty top class rugby teams. like. . . .
13/09/2009 Huddersfield 48 V 16 Wigan
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27/03/2009 Wigan 8 V 22 Huddersfield
or even
25/07/2008 Wigan 4 V 34 Huddersfield
or what about
15/04/2007 Huddersfield 41 V 16 Wigan
yeah i'd take that, thats not to mention the "close" games we've won either ,yep im sure we could all dream of the odd scraped victory over the mighty wigan
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Ah, the dangerous world of stats... So you closed the gap on us a little, 16 wins to Wigan, 8 to you in Super League... But none of that's relevant, this thread was about the Mason/Griffin incidents, someone said the O'Loughlin incident was as bad as Ablett's, and by implication from the bans handed out, as bad as Mason's trample. The obvious truth is that no, don't show so much ridiculous bias. I've proven that, and it's up to someone to prove me wrong now instead of hurling insults (like Danril and Jacko32).
Quote ="Wadski"Jeez pal, you need to think about your blood pressure. Let it go - move on.'"
Nothing wrong with my blood pressure. I moved on after the match, and if you read this thread again, the problem lies with the Huddersfield "fans" who still can't let the O'Loughlin incident go. Those are the people who need to move on.
Quote ="Danril"Anyone else got a PM from the biased special lad?
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Yes, I've had one off you. Check your sent items, see who else you've PM'ed.
Thanks for the insults, too. Getting a bit old now, how about growing up and posting something reasoned and intelligent instead?
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| No insults, just observations based on your posts.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't take advice on intelligent posting from you. Bit of a waste of time IMO you see, again based on what I've read from you and your supposed non-biased viewpoint!
Still here. Still posting, yet we need to move on? The survey said...
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| Quote ="Wadski"please justify this:
[url=http://imagefrog.net/show.php/109988_stompkins.JPG[/url'"
There is no justification. Someone should have brought that to the RFL's attention, unless they didn't think it was intentional. Do you have a video rather than a single selected frame because:
a) That's not good enough evidence according to Danril
b) I can't tell if there's any intent from a still image
If that was intentional then it deserved to be punished.
But in all seriousness, what did you expect me to say? Where's the evidence that O'Loughlin went high? Not got any? No, didn't think so.
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| Quote ="Danril"No insults, just observations based on your posts.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't take advice on intelligent posting from you. Bit of a waste of time IMO you see, again based on what I've read from you and your supposed non-biased viewpoint!'"
I base my posts on facts. You?
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Still here. Still posting, yet we need to move on? The survey said...
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It takes two (or more) to tango. You're still here too, or hadn't you noticed?
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| I'm here on the Huddersfield forum. I am a Huddersfield fan so that's not really surprising. You're here, a Wigan fan, parping about being unbiased and then posting total biased guff. When you manage to grasp that snippet and see that you currently are making yourself look like you're a couple of saucers short of a tea set you may then subsequently see that this also goes some way to explaining why I'm here laughing at you!
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| Quote ="Fishsta"There is no justification. Someone should have brought that to the RFL's attention, unless they didn't think it was intentional. Do you have a video rather than a single selected frame because:
a) That's not good enough evidence according to Danril
b) I can't tell if there's any intent from a still image
If that was intentional then it deserved to be punished.
But in all seriousness, what did you expect me to say? Where's the evidence that O'Loughlin went high? Not got any? No, didn't think so.'"
So you get the point about rolling stills of television footage out?
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