A lot on here wont accept it but for a long time Thewlis has been the main problem at the club, even now once again the lack of leadership from the top is staggering, just a message of hope/ defiance/ anything would at least give the dwindling remaining fans something, its the least they deserve.

On the playing front, of the many disastrous decisions probably the worst was moving a good young winger to full back bringing Grix back to mentor him and then signing a very expensive winger to replace the young winger ! Grix is currently putting in error strewn performances in the championship but surely and i never thought i would say this bringing him back in at 1 and playing Gaskell at 6 would be the logical thing? Or has as been stated in other posts on here the towel gone in and this is Kens exit strategy ?

Grix error strewn? Darnell has made most errors in super league this year

Can't argue with that, Iv'e been saying for a long time that the Giants have loser written all over them,

Ask the fax fans who were at Swinton yesterday

However the Grix debate is long over but we are insuch a desperate state I would take him with Gaskell at 6

How we got to that point is mismanagement of the highest order

ah going against coached orders.... said it a while back the players dont listen to him

he cant motivate the players, they cant even motivate themselves!

Bit left field but we've tried a plethora of half back to partner gaskell, what about trying kruise, he can't do any worse(cas use mcshane) aob to do 80 mins, if we can't get grix back, then darnell back to full back, either Mellor or Roberts to partner jake. Jerry and one of the twins on the wing.

Bit left field but we've tried a plethora of half back to partner gaskell, what about trying kruise, he can't do any worse(cas use mcshane) aob to do 80 mins, if we can't get grix back, then darnell back to full back, either Mellor or Roberts to partner jake. Jerry and one of the twins on the wing.

dont think it matters who we play or where anymore

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we could really do with rankin back right now

Over the last few month Trinity have pretty much been mirroring you lot in terms of performances. We had all the same gripes as you. Yet on Sunday that all changed, permanently with any luck.

Chester didn’t alter his team selection and I doubt he altered his game plan, it’s not his style. Yet we looked a different team against HKR.

My point is that it’s not all down to your Coach, players need to motivate themselves to a large degree. Wolford is probably doing everything right, it’s your players mentality that’s probably wrong. For reasons unknown the balance is wrong, yes the coach has a part to play but so do the players, more so imho.

They need to realise they will be out of a job if they don’t rally soon. For obvious and selfish reasons I hope they don’t but I fear there is still time. What I do know is that it’s all down to the players now.

mamo too?

not forgetting about 600k of cap sat in the stands

Which in some cases is down to poor recruitment, which is linked back to Woolford? Was Uate ever really going to be a smart investment when looking at the rest of your squad?

So have we, it's an excuse for not winning trophies or being top five, it's not an excuse for losing games you should be winning or at least competing in.

I agree mate, both sides have the same number on the field, and although you may not expect to win games with a team half-full of kids there is no excuse for a performance like our last two, and in any event by and large it's not the youngsters who have been the big disappointment. The problems go a lot deeper than the attitude of the players.

anderson, stone, woolford and thewlis all messed up the cap ... id say prob anderson most just before he left with brierley, symonds and others... stone brought in mamo and wakeman, woolford uate, frawley , matagi

rumours are that woolford is on his way back to oz for 2020 coaching as assistant at sydney

maybe opens the door for nathan brown or chris thorman to return?

Best just sort that with Simon- cause it’s news to him- and CT is going to KR next year.

yep club has come out and quashed the rumour!

no smoke without fire, strange it got out

if we were relegated he would have got the sack

Wife and kids been back in aus so maybe put 2 and 2 together and got 5

yeh cant say his stock has exactly risen whilst over here to make him hot property in oz!

not much any coach can do with this squad to be fair

He could make his mind up on a half back pairing!

And the rest of the spine too!

same for rick stone too

Not "What does Woolford do?" but "What is Woolford doing? Has stated if we go down he is going back to Oz. Good only IF we go down.