got to agree with you on that ceejames, many times some of the wakey fans start it, the poster you are talking about shows that, as do a lot of threads about wakey on their forum that some of their fans use to pull down cas mostly but other teams as well.

as for calling giants vultures and saying they should be ashamed being a cas fan i know what its like to be picked clean by teams including wakey looking for cheap bargains but do i blame the teams, no i don't its business, wakey fans say it is different because they weren't relegated like we were but shopping for bargains is the same no matter what the situation is, congrats to hudds by the way on your captures and i hope they do well for you except for if they play against us then i hope they play rubbish

(only joking guys), i'd much rather win or lose against a hudds team playing well than win or lose against one playing absolute rubbish. as ceejames has already stated some wakey fans were quick to come on our forums when they got opp gloating, also hull, catalans and quins are just doing what all teams do and building their squad, no wakey fan could honestly say hand on heart that had this happened to another team then their team would not go there looking for a bargain if they needed players, because anyone who does say wtwc wouldn't would be lying.

anyway for a bit of banter we look forward to beating you saturday

but we still havnt merged or been relegated from sl.

We've been there...for far too many years to remember.

When you're having crowds of 400 THEN you'll have gone [ihalf[/i the circle that we've been through. I sincerely hope you don't have to endure that.

Having just read some of the disgusting garbage on the Wakey board about us vulturing their juniors, it makes me want the worst for Wakey. I really can't be bothered any more with them.

There's some great blokes I've met on here that are Wakey fans who I feel sorry for, but although there's Wakey tosspots trying to have a go at our club for helping them out by taking a player off their hands I'd still like to see Wakey carry on in SL, new stadium or not.

You're right. You've cheated, you've lied repeatedly, you've totally disregarded your suppliers, supporters and investors, you've created a great big hole for yourself and promptly dropped in it and blamed everybody else.

I think these are much, much worse.

You're not wrong. That thread's a disgrace. There are the torn off limbs of teddy bears all over the place. I suppose we'll still be a set of sh*thouses if we loan them a few players for the rest of the season too.

It's a complete joke. Vitriolic bile and it shows just how little some of their fans know. Throwing insults about mergers about and not seeing the hypocrisy of that. Crying how we have a sugar daddy and drawing up a shopping list for Mr Glover at the same time. It's a Huddersfield lad that's saving them too, I suppose when they lose a couple and that filters through they'll turn on him too.

Best academy a few years ago? Ha ha! Nope. The best academies tend to loan out their best lads to Championship or even SL sides. Sides like Wigan, Leeds, Saints; THEY have the best academies. The only reason Wakey lifted the pot that year was due to them not loaning out all their best kids, which gave them a pot but hindered the development of their kids.

They see what they want to see. They blame who they want to blame. Anyone but themselves. Then next week they'll be knocking on Ken's door, cap in hand, begging to loan a few players. Or maybe we'll be magnanamous and go and offer them a few on loan. After all, it will help their development and Wakey couldn't do any worse. Our kids did after all beat their first team in their own back yard a few weeks ago, not that we have a decent youth set up according to them.

Hear hear.

There are some Wakefield supporters who are the essence of all that is good about Rugby League. They way these people have worked to raise money for good causes, worked to assist and grow WTW as a club into the community is to be commended.

Then you have the d!ckheads who are jealous of what Ken Davy and Huddersfield Giants have achieved. I raise this specifically because there is bile being spat over Hull KR, Catalans, Quins and Hull FC who have also signed Wakefield players - that's just reserved for us. Hopefully our 'unpaid helpers' will come along and issue a few bans to rid us of these scumbags before the RFL do it permanently!.

I agree with you one hundred percent. I could never undertstand the views of some of our posters who seemed so vehemently anti wakefield.. I was not on the messageboards when we were having our bad times so did not understand where all the hostility came from. yet after the last couple of days i can now understand it.

I have always tried to manage what were the worst excesses and the number of PMs i have had from our posters since starting to be a mod accusing me of being "pro wakefield" or "cosying up to my wakefield friends" was riduculous. even when raising money for the Adam Watene fund people had a go.

But after reading all the crap over the last couple of days on their site having a go at the Giants, Ken Davy or whoever was too much. If this is a only a % of what crap Giants had to put up with from some of the anti huddersfield brigade i can now understand why some of our posters hate Wakey with a vengeance.

I will not go down that route because i have met some great Wakey fans ( spent ages talking to two of them at Cardiff last week) but it has now got to the stage where i agree with ivor


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Having just read some of the disgusting garbage on the Wakey board about us vulturing their juniors, it makes me want the worst for Wakey. I really can't be bothered any more with them. '"

When someone as reasonable and as knowledgable as Ivor feels like that how can you disagree.

As far as i am concerned now they are on their own sod them . I wonder whether it was worth the hassle i have had in the past.


Good luck to the decent Wakey fans they deserve better than they have got . as for the rest ( i will refrain from saying what i realy want to.)

I wonder if Ken has put an offer in for the Wildcat Dolls or their groundsman - both very good at what they do.

Would that come under the scope of Talent Builder

millard has gone to catalans and not one mention of the word "vulture" lol...i know we got plenty of stick a few years back from a few wakey fans over the merger and non relegation, and a few of our fans have had great delight in recent times in getting their own back by telling the wakey fans what they think about their plight.i never ventured down that road..but

even i am now getting to feel like ivor and durham and enough is enough

It's amazing how one moronic wakey poster says Ken Davy is after wakey's youth players and they all pile in.

Our youth players beat their first team (a team the wakey youngsters are not good enough to get into) why would we want their kids?!

Meanwhile we know their head coach would rather be at Catalans and their much praised head of community has gone to......Featherstone as CEO.

So why all the bile for Huddersfield and not Hull, Catalans, Featherstone + {add names here when further signings occur}? We must get under their skins more than others..oh dear.

Not happy with wakey posting crap on their board they are quite happy to rope everyone else into the anti huddersfield brigade . look at this gem of the HKR board =#FF0000Their buyer could pull out due to the playing staff being raped from a HKR fan after wakey accused KD of beiung after their youngsters. The fact that HKR were looking at Aaron Murphy is conveniently forgotte. Bunch of f***** hypocrites. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=482784

Not happy with wakey posting crap on their board they are quite happy to rope everyone else into the anti huddersfield brigade . look at this gem of the HKR board =#FF0000Their buyer could pull out due to the playing staff being raped from a HKR fan after wakey accused KD of beiung after their youngsters. The fact that HKR were looking at Aaron Murphy is conveniently forgotte. Bunch of f***** hypocrites. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=482784

His post was both pointless and unwarranted a bit like your's really, If you felt insulted and annoyed by it, then why not tell him so instead of rolling out your usual well worn criticism about our club, it was a personal insult by a fan against your club not by anybody from Wakefield so why the need to spew your hate filled bile which has got you into no end of trouble on rlfans and not to mention on this particular board as well in the past, posters from Wakey what come on here insulting your fans and the club deserve all they get, but I can tell you this much nobody from WTW has ever uttered a wrong word against your club or its fans, so why not save the obvious bitterness you nurture for the people what deserve it and not somebody what cannot answer your smart mouth comments back, as Iv'e said already its about Fergy not Wakefields off the field problems, but then its not your style is it.

You failed to explain your bizarre comment about me not going to cardiff.



if you do not like the facts I post about wakey...run along. I am sure you will find plenty of wakey knuckle draggers who will applaud your sanctimonious posts.

What have I written about wakey's finances, treatment of other clubs re payments, treatment of players in the past, poor payment of creditors,facilities and over reliance on overseas players that is not true? I write factual stuff and wakey nodding dogs object.

Every agent who has a player at Wakey right now will be ringing round trying to get their player a deal elsewhere. They are serving the interests of their player and also getting themselves a slice of any action. Are they vultures too? If a club is contacted by an agent offering a player and the club subsequently goes on to make an offer for that player, which is accepted, is that so wrong?

dickie, you're talking about a fictional world there. Did the Huddersfield fans deserve grief about the merger? No, and neither did the club. If anyone deserved it then it was the RFL but that didn't matter 12 years ago and still doesn't matter now apparently. Have you actually read your board? Have you read some of the utter tripe being aimed at us? Have you missed the last 12 years where plenty of your lot have sat in the ivory tower spouting tosh in our direction?

I wish decent Wakey fans like WildThing, Slugger McBatt et al well, I honestly do but I woudl be a liar if I said I was shedding a tear for your club at the moment. With fans like the ones I mentioned Trinity will go on, survive and may one day flourish again and if/when that happens I will be glad for those fans. I've been through the mill with my lot, having watched them since the mid 80's, so I know what it's like to follow a side through bad times. Some of your fans though, they don't deserve a side to watch. They're an embarrassment to the sport they harp on about being so great and one big family and all that tosh.

Good player!

Cannot for the life of me see where you get any hassle, your as guilty as the next shuds fan when it comes to dishing it out, on a personal note you did well for AW for which a lot of Wakey fans are greatful but as for being on our own, well at least we won't have to keep looking over our shoulder then will we after some of your smug comments about Wakey in the past,

Fwiw all Wakey fans are decent, its just that some of them are not prepared to be insulted by the likes of some of the angels what live on here, and you know who the prime suspects are, but as you said on here sometime ago its their board so you have to make allowances for them, they are all as bad as one another matey, be careful when you dismount that horse of yours a fall from that height would be rather painful I imagine.

Find me one smug comment. Go on 6000 posts just find one. Read the important announcement thread at the top of this page wahat do you think that was about..

Go on find one f 00ing post

I was about to back you up then DG, Dickie Mint is talking out of his backside.

Especially when he says all wakey fans are decent. That thread you linked to shows otherwise.

No it is not wrong, we have done the very same thing ourselves slightly different circumstances but Danny Brough is a prime example, we did not care about Cas's feelings when we took him from Cas and at least we got something for him when he left us, its one thing loaning players out, that is to the mutual benefit of both clubs and the player, but other than that its a cut throat business and most Wakey fans will recognise that perhaps, if Hudds had not got him somebody else would no doubt.




Without trying to evaluate something I'm not qualified to do, the only explanation I can give is that when somebody hurls an insult you tend to hurl one back at them and from then on it just deteriates from there and gets more childlike as it goes on, neither set of fans deserve what they get really or most of them don't, but its human nature I suppose to retaliate not that it makes it allright. My pet hate about your club is that they always end up with our better players which is very frustrating indeed and perhaps thats what lies with some of the abuse your fans tend to recieve from some Wakey fans.





There is the odd one or two of your fans that get up my nose as well, but that is only an opinion as I'm sure that away from on here they are decent people as are one or two Wakey fans that come on here are that I know. Our problem is that we and adversity seem to go hand in hand and perhaps we have a few fans that are feeling sorry for themselves as it always seems to happen to us but thats life as a Wakey fan, we will still carry on regardless while ever we can and I doubt the insults will cease either such is human nature.

Is that your response to the above post, or is it a discretionary pass