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| A typical Silverwood performance. Slaughtered us in the 1st half and them in the 2nd.
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| Big call missed tonight. You had the ball a few yards out and got a quick ptb and should have scored. This was snuffed out by a Rhinos player knocking the ball down before the ball gets to the winger. What the official doesnt spot his the person who does this is purposely offside stopping a certain try which should have been a penalty and a yellow card.
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| Before the naysayers who will inevitably turn up do I'd like to add one little fact- Only 4 players on that giants squad were playing in their regular position from last year- thats not I including smith who hobbled off injured after 10 minutes- I think under those circumstances we did well and held our own- the rhinos fans I spoke to after the game admitted they should have lost that game- but that's the difference isn't it.,..
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| It was a typical bottom of the table game something you Shudy fans ain't been used too for a while. The conditions didn't help but a game like this one wouldn't normally be shown on Sky and boy did they do their best to spam it up.
Injuries or not it was a game to be forgotten and I enjoyed your part in it.
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| Is Keinhorst related to ET?? Must have had a triple jointed finger to exert downward pressure on the last gifted try!
Better performance last this week - was expecting worse after last week's disaster/no-show!!
Still half full!
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| Quote ="scosha"Is Keinhorst related to ET?? Must have had a triple jointed finger to exert downward pressure on the last gifted try!
Better performance last this week - was expecting worse after last week's disaster/no-show!!
Still half full!'"
You do realise that it is a matter of scientific certainty that if anything is on top of any object then it is exerting downward pressure? A gnat's c**k-hair on top of the ball would be exerting downward pressure. I know of no clause in the RFL's rule book which states that the pressure needs to be of a certain magnitude to award a try.
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| massive effort and commitment lastnight from the lads, expected a hammering and even more when i saw smith go off after 5mins but they worked their socks off and almost got the reward!
great to see brough back and his determination was there for everyone to see.
if we could have been abit smarter in the 2nd half we could have won but massive improvement on last week and if we continue like that then the wins will come with a few bodies to come back from injury too.
looked a more well balanced side with connor at full back and murphy back on the wing too
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| Quote ="Code13"As much evidence as the Connor no try that cost us against Wigan'"
yes my mate was saying same thing, if only they looked at the same angle as they did lastnight...
and they the ryan hall try for england in australia should have been a try if that was lastnight too!!
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| bentham video ref our discipline still a major issue . Refs wont a fast ptb our Muppet keep ing about they will get done every time
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| You guys cant blame the ref, he was by no means on your side, just the standard inconsistant performance that every SL ref seems to be putting in
Giving penalties seemingly at random at the PTB
Hardaker penalised for appealling for a penalty (you think they are gonna do that every time?!?)
Loads of obviously wrong knock on calls for both sides
going back anywhere between 8 and 14 meters and then penalizing for offside at random
Im actually getting sick of it, its got to the point where refs are even ruining neutral games for me, one of the reasons the NRL is better to watch us its much better refereed
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| giants caned 8 to 1 on pens in the second half
but our completion rate was 50%....
silverwood gave no try for keinhorst one then bentham overturned it yet it was inconclusive ?!
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| I recall Bentham being the VR in 2014 at Headingley when he disallowed a last minute Briscoe winner vs Hudds because of a nothing "shoulder barge" on Brough when both going for the ball.
You got the benefit that night, we got it last night.
Cue someone saying the 2014 one was a clear as day foul.
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| Quote ="son of headingley"You do realise that it is a matter of scientific certainty that if anything is on top of any object then it is exerting downward pressure? A gnat's c**k-hair on top of the ball would be exerting downward pressure. I know of no clause in the RFL's rule book which states that the pressure needs to be of a certain magnitude to award a try.'"
Incorrect. We're talking about DOWNWARD MOTION. Assuming you went to school, checkout Newton's Third Law - it's all about equal and opposite forces.
A mass (eg hand/finger/Gnats c**ck-hair etc) will exert downward pressure if on top of another body (eg ball) but if the upward pressure is exceeded or equalled, then DOWNWARD MOTION will not occur. That is a scientific certainty!
Since Keinhorst's finger didn't appear to be on top of the ball, then how can he exert downward pressure resulting in downward motion??
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| Keinhorst hit the side of the ball
Knock on
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| Quote ="Code13"Keinhorst hit the side of the ball
Knock on'"
Do you think if you keep telling yourself that that it'll eventually become true?
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| Does irt matter we LOST end of.
Pathetic going on about refs.
Giants fans have been doing it for 20 years.
Be two scores better than the opposition and the ref becomes irrelevant.
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| Quote ="scosha"Incorrect. We're talking about DOWNWARD MOTION. Assuming you went to school, checkout Newton's Third Law - it's all about equal and opposite forces.
A mass (eg hand/finger/Gnats c**ck-hair etc) will exert downward pressure if on top of another body (eg ball) but if the upward pressure is exceeded or equalled, then DOWNWARD MOTION will not occur. That is a scientific certainty!
Since Keinhorst's finger didn't appear to be on top of the ball, then how can he exert downward pressure resulting in downward motion??'"
Keinhorst's arm/fingers were coming from above the ball downwards onto the ball. This would then create a force upon the ball. Keinhorst did not scoop his fingers under the ball to lift the ball up.
As for your upward pressure argument, there can only be upward pressure if the ball is bouncing up - there is no evidence of this. However, the only thing that would in that case necessitate a NO TRY decision would be if there was separation of the fingers from the ball whilst the ball was in the air, thus proving a knock-on . There is also no evidence of this occurring.
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| Son of Headingley - The bottom line is that Keinhorst's try was debatable. It's a rugby site - i'll be happy to discuss physics and engineering all day long on a separate thread if you want - it's my job after all. At the end of the day, the ref (or video ref's) decision is final and we've got to respect it whether we like it or not. We should have nailed the final outcome a long time before (Foster dropped ball etc) and not conceded reckless penalties leading to the Rhinos taking the honours - opportunists and 80 minute competitors as they are!
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| Also how come here was no penalty for Connor when he was slapped in the face and left on the deck?
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| The only thing that makes the result even better is you lot whinging and crying foul!
Love it.
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| no point going on about decisions that went against us, we sometimes get those given, sometimes not, i think we got a bit lucky the other year when they had a try ruled out at the end when it could have been given.
it just makes us look like bad losers.
to quote PA, "it is what it is"
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| It is what it is !!! Andersons favourite quote.
I think we should be looking at his lack of style and boring manner. Since he became Coach all the players he signed have been moved on. Recruitment policy is questionable and Thewlis controls that side. He should have been chased after the way he cost the Club money over the Mason court case.
A change is needed to freshen the Club up and give us a better style of Rugby.
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| Stick your application in then.
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| yeah sack the coach and the CEO , after all our depleted team have lost 4 games to 3 of the games strongest teams and the current league leaders
obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but strange how people don't think the coach needs to go when we win games.
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| I'm not buying this 'questionable recruitment policy' and 'all the players brought in have moved on'......
Ta'ai
Huby
Smith
Murphy
Ellis
Wood
Not all Hollywood signings, but were either solid buys or have improved since joining, and I don't see any of them beating a path to the exit door.
And the last two signings of Rapira and Hinchcliffe are top, top signings. Hinchcliffe has referenced Anderson as one of the reasons why he came to us.
Back on topic, I can accept that result, as long as it's associated with that performance. Gutting yes, but there was effort, commitment, and based on the conditions and players out of position some attempt to play where possible.
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