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| Vitriol? Lol. Ok should I say we were brilliant- blew them away. Great rugby.....
but none of that is true.... I say it like I see it. I don't pretend we are great when we aren't.
We played a lot better against Cas but didn't get the points.
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| We played poorly and won, I'll take that every time over playing well and losing thanks
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| then you and mr E are at the least going to go away happy
Questioning why Jools is still supporting the team ? -its whats she and some others do
But quite honestly I also would rather see some evidence that we`r trying to move to a "good pereformance"that brings "a good two points" NO?
Frankly -as at many "away"games (and home) -its an insult to the supporters to turn on performanceslike that
and somewill see it as it israther than taking the bird table crumbs
To a neutral and even cats/Hudds supporters -it was dire and performances generally are
There was a glimmer of effort and enthusiasm against Leeds and Cas but then we get this as a setback once more
A bad match /two poor teams butin the last 10 mins our performance was slightly less worse than theirs Thats it Full stop !
Dropped balls / wrong options / poor passing / no passing / kick when should be running it
If some want to play ostriches -then be my guest But at the moment performances like that wont achieve what we require
The forthcoming games against those just above as winnable 4 pointers but hey in all honesty do you eternal optimists really think that the samples we`re producing will get us there ?
My good night A lot are living with HOPE and theresnot much on the horizon
I arent party to the inside dealingsat the club but whilst accepting that injuries have wrecked the continuity of a team with no depth to cover them I then look at who have gone -whatever the reasons
In my view weve released /lost / whatever ? players who were on show at Magic who could make a squad to perform better than we are doing and that IS worrying (in my opinion I stress)
So where do we go from here I hope someone knows and does something about it before it IS unrecoverable
And dont worry bout Jools and me and others we WILL still be down there at Dewsbury /Bradford etc but telling it AS IT IS!
Asfor refs - thats chapter 2
I even have a Hudds supporter who tells me to shut up at every game for "blaming the ref"cause we are losing
As Ive told him I arent - Im just saying how bad they are and also giving poor performances
Evidence is on camera but ignored
This weekend in 6 games the number of 8 yds that should be 10 and foward passes that go "unnoticed "-or ignored got beyond counting
Thats another thing that (IMO) wants addressing and fast
If not the weekends wont be MAGIC anymore
Poor show all round except for the winners Thank goodness we were but please somebody get a grip of our situation because it aint good.
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| Spot on crackers!
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| what a dire game that was to watch!!
but we got the two points in the end which is what matters, was an important win too as it keeps out super 8's hopes alive.
certainly looked lacklustre and disjointed did the attack but that can be understandable with a new half back pairing again and ridyard only been at the club a week.
enjoyed the day out but winning certainly helps!
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| Quote ="yorkieboy52"Good job Thaler was on the ball today, not only with reversing the refs bad calls on the two no tries, but also with the call for a Catalan goal line drop out, and then over ruling a head and feed scrum when the ball clearly came off a Cats player and hit Sam Rapira'"
yes campbell did his best to get catalans the win
now if that game wasnt on tv those 'tries' he would have awarded
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| Quote ="Code13"We played poorly and won, I'll take that every time over playing well and losing thanks'"
murphy man of the match at centre.... you say hes never a centre..the guy is solid as a rock wherever you play him!
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| Quote ="catalanglais"I anticipated those responces.Any team without that many players has no chance-note the Wakefield -Wigan result last year.Young French players are of a very low standard as last friday at hull proved.However,thanks for the tip. I have put a lot of money on Huddersfield'"
glad you got your payout!
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| Quote ="brearley84"murphy man of the match at centre.... you say hes never a centre..the guy is solid as a rock wherever you play him!'"
Yep, he played a blinder and yes he is 100% dependable
But he is not a centre, his defence was excellent (against a poor attack let's be honest) but his own attack wasn't great either
As I say, Murphy is almost 100% dependable but he won't ever win us a game & if Ridyard performs well on Brough return there's no place in the side for Murphy
Gaskel into the 4 spot he should be in and Darnell on the wing
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| Quote ="Code13"Yep, he played a blinder and yes he is 100% dependable
But he is not a centre, his defence was excellent (against a poor attack let's be honest) but his own attack wasn't great either
As I say, Murphy is almost 100% dependable but he won't ever win us a game & if Ridyard performs well on Brough return there's no place in the side for Murphy
Gaskel into the 4 spot he should be in and Darnell on the wing'"
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| Quote ="jools"Can honestly say today was the worst magic ever- and I've been to them all- poor atmosphere all day. It's not magic anymore...'"
Well you didn`t go for the weekend did you. We had an enjoyable weekend passing the time talking to various club supporters, as well as taking in 4 full games over the weekend. I will be sorry to see the Weekend move personaly. If it moved back to Manchester I would only go on the day Huddersfield were playing as I woudn`t bother stopping in Manchester for a weekend.
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| Quote ="jools"Vitriol? Lol. Ok should I say we were brilliant- blew them away. Great rugby.....
but none of that is true.... I say it like I see it. I don't pretend we are great when we aren't.
We played a lot better against Cas but didn't get the points.'"
Can`t believe what some supporters are saying, example :- boring / poor game. I have a totally different view. It was one of the closest games apart from Wigan v Warrington. It was a very good defensive display from both sides, and when the scores are so close the team can`t take the expansive option for fear of mistakes. People should be able to appreciate good defence as well as length of the field try`s.
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| The length of field tries isn't the issue- the lack of good linespeed was. Our game was played at a pedestrian pace compared to all the other games that weekend. We looked sluggish- and we'd just had a week off! Yes partly that was down to the way the ruck was policed (badly) but we weren't fighting to get up,or moving up quickly in defence. Against a side willing to ptb quickly we would have been crucified.
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| So you failed to notice the times we visibly upped our tempo in attack, forcing quick PTB and getting good profit from it?
It was a poor game yes, but that's down to both teams failing to complete sets and a very poor referee slowing both sides to lay on and lurk offside all game
Be critical by all means but get the criticism right
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"Well you didn`t go for the weekend did you. We had an enjoyable weekend passing the time talking to various club supporters, as well as taking in 4 full games over the weekend. I will be sorry to see the Weekend move personaly. If it moved back to Manchester I would only go on the day Huddersfield were playing as I woudn`t bother stopping in Manchester for a weekend.'"
Yes we did go for the weekend- we always have. We saw all 6 games.
From a family perspective Newcastle is poor. shockingly poor fanzone and poor entertainment at the stadium between games in the opinion of my kids. Etihad made it more of a party atmosphere with lots going on.
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| Quote ="Code13"So you failed to notice the times we visibly upped our tempo in attack, forcing quick PTB and getting good profit from it?
It was a poor game yes, but that's down to both teams failing to complete sets and a very poor referee slowing both sides to lay on and lurk offside all game
Be critical by all means but get the criticism right'"
You can't just up the tempo for 10 minutes. It needs to be played at pace throughout the 80 minutes. Look at the speed the saints/hull game was played at, or the cas/Leeds,, or even the Leigh Salford game!
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| hey ho we got the 2 points on offer
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| Quote ="jools"Yes we did go for the weekend- we always have. We saw all 6 games.
From a family perspective Newcastle is poor. shockingly poor fanzone and poor entertainment at the stadium between games in the opinion of my kids. Etihad made it more of a party atmosphere with lots going on.'"
I will agree with you regarding poor entertainment, but that is down to the RFL not Newcastle. Big rubberised figures doing races, also the big plastic see-through globes with supporters from different teams competing. It`s knockout type games would keep the kids interested. They could still have young kids playing rugby at one end of the field up to the 22 metre line, leaving plenty of space for fun games.
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| Then I take it that (Me and Jools excepted?) we are all happy with how things panned out !
It was exciting riveting fayre and of astandard that will see see us comfortably achieve a comfortable season end result
We showed that we can upthe ante for 10-15mins and establish a platform to see games out at any point in the match as suits
Its a majority decision that I`ll accept as the status quo in September now I can relax and sleep more easily
Thanks gang !! Why was I ever concerned!
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| Quote ="Code13"Yep, he played a blinder and yes he is 100% dependable
But he is not a centre, his defence was excellent (against a poor attack let's be honest) but his own attack wasn't great either
As I say, Murphy is almost 100% dependable but he won't ever win us a game & if Ridyard performs well on Brough return there's no place in the side for Murphy
Gaskel into the 4 spot he should be in and Darnell on the wing'"
SO once again when we`re crying out for some stability and continuity in the team youre advocating the old musical chairs syndrome that (IMO) hasnt served us too well -yet we are moving once again towards "crunch"time
I was under the impression that Ridyard was temp replacement half for Brough? Y/N?In which case if he gets a couple of games with Broughy before his month long period expires -what does it serve us to mess about with Murph and a (hopefully) longer term pairing at h/b
Weve had little or no "understanding " in the side and when weve introduced promising youngsters into the permutations we then mess with the combinations yet again so that its constantly being disrupted
Know some of this has been because of Dannys perceived on field petulance but lets not continue this now that weve got a chance to settle the team coming towards the middle eights which Im afraid seems the inevitable position were in We arent party to behind the scenes decisions but we ought by now to have an idea of our best combination and be aiming towards it -not faffing around continually
Cant see even our more established players getting any understanding by that logic never mind the youngsters we (have to?) introduce
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| Then keep Gaskell at 6 and Sam Wood at centre
Playing someone because they are solid and dependable won't win us points
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| Quote ="brearley84"murphy man of the match at centre.... you say hes never a centre..the guy is solid as a rock wherever you play him!'"
Murphy is a centre always was utterly wasted on the wing - anybody who knows RL can see that surely.
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| Quote ="vastman"Murphy is a centre always was utterly wasted on the wing - anybody who knows RL can see that surely.'"
I've always been a big fan of smurf ... always gives 100% ... rarely misses tackles or makes errors. Carries the ball well and can play anywhere in the outside backs. So to say he is 'utterly wasted' is a bit harsh.
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| scores a fair few tries as a winger too does murphy!
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| Quote ="vastman"Murphy is a centre always was utterly wasted on the wing - anybody who knows RL can see that surely.'"
You may have thought that but we have tacticians who know better. He plays a good game get's MOM and it's only because he was playing against a poor side. We also have a International who missed a tackle my Grandaughter could have made, that resulted in a try,Playing against the same poor side , but there will be a myriad of reasons for that.
The argument is that he is OK but will not win us games, that makes him in good company then, Apart from a couple on their day, we have a team full like him.
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