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| Quote ="Trinity_13"This has to be a wind up.............you wouldn't take Johnstone for Murphy or brendan Ormsby???............or bjb for that matter.........Fifita for Rick wakeman or Clough???...........Ashurst for Ferguson????...........I'm pretty sure the majority of your fans would take wood back.........a few would even fancy grix and Huby back.........I think you seriously overrate a lot of your players............Jools reckoned last year was a mere blip.............I can't see it..............id take iftiwhatshisface and tai from your squad............maybe Mcgilvary could come as cover for our wingers...........the rest you can keep............including Danny boy who's now 2 years past sl level............'"
Calm down dear, i was asking the previous poster who they'd take ....
And yes i'd take Johnstone, plus i haven't seen enough of Wakey's side to judge on the others, certainly there's no-one that jumps out at me as better than what we've already got which i would exchange.
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| Quote ="Bigboff"Thought Powell took over mid-end of 2013?
2014 his first full year in charge he went to Wembley and was one match away from LLS?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm almost sure he got a five year deal in his first full year in charge'"
Could have been then, i thought he'd been there 5 years already, either way they struggled in his 1st season and some of his 2nd then i'm pretty sure as i remember reading how he was a ''championship coach' and wouldn't do anything.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Could have been then, i thought he'd been there 5 years already, either way they struggled in his 1st season and some of his 2nd then i'm pretty sure as i remember reading how he was a ''championship coach' and wouldn't do anything.'"
Just thought I'd jump in here - Powell joined us halfway through 2013. 2014 was the year we got to CC Final and nearly snatched LLS. He had half a season to whip us into shape and avoid relegation and then kicked on from there.
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| Quote ="BD"Just thought I'd jump in here - Powell joined us halfway through 2013. 2014 was the year we got to CC Final and nearly snatched LLS. He had half a season to whip us into shape and avoid relegation and then kicked on from there.'"
I stand corrected then thanks for that, out of interest were Cas fans always happy with him even after 8 months and all his signings ?
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"I stand corrected then thanks for that, out of interest were Cas fans always happy with him even after 8 months and all his signings ?'"
I can't answer for all Cas fans, but seeing how the team were playing in towards the back end of 2013 after he'd took over most of us knew he was what we needed. His record with us speaks for itself. We were 'down and out' when he took over. He started putting his stamp on things immediately, took us to Wembley in his first full year, one win away from the LLS (If we'd have won away in Catalans we'd have took the shield). Our finishes in his 3 full years have been 4th in 2014, 5th in 2015, 5th in 2016. I can say that we were probably a lot happier with him after 8 months than most of your fans seem with Stone.
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| Cheers for that, maybe the expectations with your fans weren't as high as ours are.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Cheers for that, maybe the expectations with your fans weren't as high as ours are.'"
I think the difference is we went from rock bottom, pastings every week, to challenging for trophies within a short space of time - so as long as we seemed to give any sort of effort, Cas fans were happy with that because we had watched so much dross for so long (with 2 relegations tucked in there) - the success we had in 2014 was just unprecedented for us. With you it seems to be sort of the other way around - you guys are where we were a few years ago, not really sure what you were gonna get week in week out. It breeds apathy in fans.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Cheers for that, maybe the expectations with your fans weren't as high as ours are.'"
All most of us wanted to see was the players playing with pride in the jersey, working for each other and putting the effort in. Don't forget, we'd been watching a Millward team, so anything was better than that dross! Powell achieved all of those things within weeks. No, the results didn't come straight away, but the effort and work rate within the team did. So, a question for you Daz; Has Stone managed to achieve even that in the time he's been there? If he has, then theres the start, if not then he may not be the right person for you
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| Quote ="caslad75"All most of us wanted to see was the players playing with pride in the jersey, working for each other and putting the effort in. Don't forget, we'd been watching a Millward team, so anything was better than that dross! Powell achieved all of those things within weeks.'"
I would quite possible say that the effort improved after Millward had left and before Powell came in, Danny Orr was fantastic for 3 weeks (I think that's how long it was), this really helped Powell when he did finally take over.
That being said, I think Huddersfield are going through a transition period, for me personally I think the best thing would e to let Brough go, bring in a new half back a start to build a team around them. I must say though, Rick Stone doesn't really fill me with enthusiasm unlike several other coaches in Super League.
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| Quote ="tigersteve"I would quite possible say that the effort improved after Millward had left and before Powell came in, Danny Orr was fantastic for 3 weeks (I think that's how long it was), this really helped Powell when he did finally take over.
That being said, I think Huddersfield are going through a transition period, for me personally I think the best thing would e to let Brough go, bring in a new half back a start to build a team around them. I must say though, Rick Stone doesn't really fill me with enthusiasm unlike several other coaches in Super League.'"
You are bang on with that about the effort when Orr took charge temporarily mate. I forgot to mention that. So now, I think, between 3 of us Daz you virtually have the full answers to your question. Put it all together, compare it with what you have with Stone and then see if he has achieved anything in 8 months. I'm with tigersteve, Stone doesn't fill me with enthusiasm, and if I was a Huddersfield fan I'd have wanted to see more improvements by now on the field. I can't comment on 'off the field' though, only fans of your own club could comment on that I think. The other thing to add though, is that Powell doesn't do it all on his own. Ours is a very good coaching team; Powell, Orr and Sheridan all play a massive part. Our club is a sum of its parts, not individuals.
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| Same thing happened with Stuart Raper aswell as Daryl Powell , we went from basement dwellers that couldn't win a coin toss to the form team in the comp overnight, that's the one bit of hope I would give to any team going down hill fast when you get an outstanding coach it's like flicking on a switch.
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| Irispective of what's happening at Huddersfield, Powell is doing a great job, anyone who can't see that is just plain blind, or more likely envious, Seems to me he's doing the same job for Cas that N Brown did for us, I don't think R Stone is that kind of coach but it doesn't mean he won't get us there eventually, just a matter of if anyone is still bothering to go watch. The real problem is that with the level of a lot of our players we need someone like either Powel or Brown .
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