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| I must've missed all those trophies we won with BH in the team. Just like I must have imagined the two Warrington won without him. Good player but hardly pivotal to either sides success or lack of it.
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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"I must've missed all those trophies we won with BH in the team. Just like I must have imagined the two Warrington won without him. Good player but hardly pivotal to either sides success or lack of it.'"
"Pivotal" very good.
I think most Wire fans will have Brett in their best 17. We are a bit fortunate that Ratchford and Riley can give him a week off when TS sees fit and when missing earlier on this year O'Brien filled the goal kicking boots very nicely. If Ratchford nails the no1 jersey, he must be learning all the time from him.
Many believe that he was instrumental in the 'Myler try' at Wembley. Apart from his attacking prowess I'm sure you all appreciate his positional play when fielding kicks, he continues to make the game look easy.
His new deal with us is all about squad balance and we don't see it as a gamble at all
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico""Pivotal" very good.
I think most Wire fans will have Brett in their best 17. We are a bit fortunate that Ratchford and Riley can give him a week off when TS sees fit and when missing earlier on this year O'Brien filled the goal kicking boots very nicely. If Ratchford nails the no1 jersey, he must be learning all the time from him.
Many believe that he was instrumental in the 'Myler try' at Wembley. Apart from his attacking prowess I'm sure you all appreciate his positional play when fielding kicks, he continues to make the game look easy.
His new deal with us is all about squad balance and we don't see it as a gamble at all'"
Never mind Brett H your best signing by a country mile is Andy Gatcliffe. The way he keeps your squad under the cap puts the whole of SL to shame. No other CEO can touch him!
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Never mind Brett H your best signing by a country mile is Andy Gatcliffe. The way he keeps your squad under the cap puts the whole of SL to shame. No other CEO can touch him!'"
We are very lucky indeed to have Simon Moran. Its not just the players that he has invested in, but rather he has brought a very sound business-like approach to everything the club does. Having watched Wire from the late 60's and seen only sporadic success, it makes a pleasant change to see a professionally run club that is winning trophies ( and beating Wigan and Saints regularly !) Having said that, to imply that we are breaking the salary cap without providing the slightest justification does you no credit.
From what I understand, BH moved to Wire primarily because he wanted a 2yr deal. We took the chance, you didn't wish to. Both decisions are perfectly understandable, and lady luck could have made a mockery of both. Thats life. Move on.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"We are very lucky indeed to have Simon Moran. Its not just the players that he has invested in, but rather he has brought a very sound business-like approach to everything the club does. Having watched Wire from the late 60's and seen only sporadic success, it makes a pleasant change to see a professionally run club that is winning trophies ( and beating Wigan and Saints regularly !) [uHaving said that, to imply that we are breaking the salary cap without providing the slightest justification does you no credit.
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From what I understand, BH moved to Wire primarily because he wanted a 2yr deal. We took the chance, you didn't wish to. Both decisions are perfectly understandable, and lady luck could have made a mockery of both. Thats life. Move on.'"
don't be such a thin skinned prat. I compliment the guy and YOU , a Wolves fan, start on about breaking the cap. Why?
I know AG from the days when he worked in the Oldham area.
Your response to my post does you no credit.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"don't be such a thin skinned prat. I compliment the guy and YOU , a Wolves fan, start on about breaking the cap. Why?
I know AG from the days when he worked in the Oldham area.
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" thin skinned prat" Is that the normal language you use in a discussion ?
Warrington, like any other club will have to pay market rates for players. So how exactly are you suggesting 'Andy Gatcliffe keeps the squad under the cap' ?
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"" thin skinned prat" Is that the normal language you use in a discussion ?
Warrington, like any other club will have to pay market rates for players. So how exactly are you suggesting 'Andy Gatcliffe keeps the squad under the cap' ?'"
It is the language used with a t055er who says I am implying something I am not. Is it normal for you to make witless allegations?
I am suggesting AG does amazing things to get that squad under the cap...kudos.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"It is the language used with a t055er who says I am implying something I am not. Is it normal for you to make witless allegations?
I am suggesting AG does amazing things to get that squad under the cap...kudos.'"
Ignoring yet more abuse, which you seem to be unable to control in any of your posts.
What are these 'amazing things' he does to get under the cap ? Since you know him, presumably you have some idea about his expertise and what he can do ?
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Ignoring yet more abuse, which you seem to be unable to control in any of your posts.
What are these 'amazing things' he does to get under the cap ? Since you know him, presumably you have some idea about his expertise and what he can do ?'"
Don't worry mate, what he probably means is that we manage to get people to come to our matches, whilst actually paying full price for admission, which then means we can legitimately pay up to the maximum cap, unlike at Huddersfield, where they literally have to bribe folk to turn up, leaving old Ken to subsidise them massively with the money he made from the flatcap factory he created....
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Ignoring yet more abuse, which you seem to be unable to control in any of your posts.
What are these 'amazing things' he does to get under the cap ? Since you know him, presumably you have some idea about his expertise and what he can do ?'"
Oh dear. lil WO likes to insult by telling posters what they are implying yet bleats and bellyaches when it is reciprocated.
Don't know what AG does. I am simply praising him for getting such a large high value squad in under the cap. Don't you like having your CEO praised...how strange
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Don't worry mate, what he probably means is that we manage to get people to come to our matches, whilst actually paying full price for admission, which then means we can legitimately pay up to the maximum cap, unlike at Huddersfield, where they literally have to bribe folk to turn up, leaving old Ken to subsidise them massively with the money he made from the flatcap factory he created....
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Gosh, is that what passes for humour inside your head? never mind. I praise your CEO. I single him out as the best in SL and a couple of dim Wolves supporters get all prickly. Your infant school grasp of the salary cap confirms that you are hard of thinking.
Now Dita's Slot Meter, more of your wit....entertain me
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Oh dear. lil WO likes to insult by telling posters what they are implying yet bleats and bellyaches when it is reciprocated.
Don't know what AG does. I am simply praising him for getting such a large high value squad in under the cap. Don't you like having your CEO praised...how strange
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I thought you said you 'knew AG from the time he lived in the Oldham area" ?
And now you don't know what AG does. But despite the fact that you dont seem to know anything, you do seem to know 'he does amazing things to keep the squad under the cap"
You are not really very bright are you 'Cripesginger' The only possibility that you 'knew AG in Oldham', is if you emptied his bins.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Gosh, is that what passes for humour inside your head? never mind. I praise your CEO. I single him out as the best in SL and a couple of dim Wolves supporters get all prickly. Your infant school grasp of the salary cap confirms that you are hard of thinking.
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So why don't you tell us about the salary cap then 'Cripesginger'. What is the current size for tier 1 and 2 players, how huch do club trained juniors count or players that have been with the club for 10 yrs. Quickly now !, or do you even know where to look it up ?
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| I thought we all loved each other? Ladies ladies, calm down.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I thought we all loved each other? Ladies ladies, calm down.'"
I was just getting warmed up
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| cripesginger knows enough. And they have a point about the Warrington squad's ratio of star players in the squad too, regardless of your tier 1 and tier 2 chatter. There are plenty of big names in that squad, it's the strongest in the league IMHO.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"I thought you said you 'knew AG from the time he lived in the Oldham area" ?
And now you don't know what AG does. But despite the fact that you dont seem to know anything, you do seem to know 'he does amazing things to keep the squad under the cap"
You are not really very bright are you 'Cripesginger' The only possibility that you 'knew AG in Oldham', is if you emptied his bins.'"
Where did I say he lived in Oldham? ...do show me. hurry up now. Or maybe you think to work somewhere you must live there...oh dear.
I do wonder why you are so touchy about me praising AG. I think he is amazing and the best in Sl when it comes to the salary cap and all you do is whine. I had better not praise anyone else at the Wolves or you may have a seizure. and I do so worry about you.
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| thank god you two didnt critisise wire and AG about the players on their cap.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"So why don't you tell us about the salary cap then 'Cripesginger'. What is the current size for tier 1 and 2 players, how huch do club trained juniors count or players that have been with the club for 10 yrs. Quickly now !, or do you even know where to look it up ?'"
Hold on there old lag! We don't have to get into that just yet. Your fellow wolves fan 'dita's slot meter' failed to grasp the basics.
Why not pm 'him' and give him a salary cap lesson..then you can both bitch about Andy Gatcliffe and the horrible Giants fan who rates him so highly. HTH
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"thank god you two didnt critisise wire and AG about the players on their cap.'"
Funny isn't it. I am praising AG for getting so many international quality players in under the cap and they cut up rough.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I thought we all loved each other? Ladies ladies, calm down.'"
What are we to do HY? I praise your CEO and some of your fellow supporters get shirty about implied slurs.
And the thing about me and Martin Sadler emptying AG's bins was never proven!
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Funny isn't it. I am praising AG for getting so many international quality players in under the cap and they cut up rough.'"
Blimey you don't visit a site for a day or two and WW3 breaks out!
To be fair to Charlie Winslade, he perhaps reacted to your praise as if it was slightly less than genuine when offered.
It is often a slur, not usually so thinly veiled from our 'nearest and dearest' in particular, that we do well to have such a robust business model and operate a decent squad under the Cap.
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| anyone who suggests Brett Hodgson isn't an essential player for Warrington doesn't know what they are talking about. His goal kicking alone makes him an automatic selection...add to that his amazing passing and decision making..and he has to be up there as one of the best Aussies ever to play in the UK.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"anyone who suggests Brett Hodgson isn't an essential player for Warrington doesn't know what they are talking about. His goal kicking alone makes him an automatic selection...add to that his amazing passing and decision making..and he has to be up there as one of the best Aussies ever to play in the UK.'" Absolutely and we got him over here and then after two years let him slip through our fingers. Gutted, someone dropped a big one make no mistake, but those are the breaks. Hopefully we can produce another gem from either down under or better still from our own backyard soon enough.
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"cripesginger knows enough. And they have a point about the Warrington squad's ratio of star players in the squad too, regardless of your tier 1 and tier 2 chatter. There are plenty of big names in that squad, it's the strongest in the league IMHO.'"
Out of interest, because I'm often curious of people's perception of Wire.....Who do you consider can be classed as big names, or the big earners at the club?
I do get the impression that whoever Wire sign, they are immediately classed as a big name, and will be on big or, at least, a significant salary, thus the constant insinuation that goes around that Wire must be breaking the cap.
Of course, its all guesswork, but I'm certain that many outsiders are massively over-estimating what some of the Wire squad actually earn, but it would be interesting to hear some views from those not supporting Wire.
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