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| There’s are only 4 bits of comment I want to read at the minute as it is clear we are in a huge mess.
The current players are unlikely to get us out of this as
A/ they are not good enough (too many to name)
B/ they are injured / injury prone ( Jerry / Leroy)
C/ too old or have the wrong attitude. (Brough)
D/ they are not interested and see relegation as a way of getting a gig at another club( any with ambition)
.SO THE ONLY NEWS THAT INTERESTS ME ATM IS
1/ NEW COACH who / when do they get here.
2/ which players are leaving
3/ which players are joining us with the new coach. a Prop with a heart and half back with a brain and back with pace and ball handling would be priorities.
4/ Ken selling up
5/ Thewlis retiring to take up fishing .
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| Well all will be revealed in full on the coaching front in the RL press tomorrow.
9pm we will know more.
The examiner might mention it in passing about Thursday....
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| newsnow.co.uk
Follow page Rugby League. Huddersfield Giants.
Simon Woodford appointed coach 2 & half year contract.
So much for secrecy!
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| And the only thing worth noting on Wikipedia about his coaching is the fact he smashed a coaching booth and was suspended. Doesn’t fill me with hope.
Still I suppose he’s got nothing to lose. But I’m not sure he’s what we need.
Problem is we won’t know until it’s too late. We don’t have the luxury of time.
He’s got a massive mess to unpick, and no track record of doing so successfully.
He has no experience of the game in the UKand I bet also has very little knowledge of us as a team or our players. Poor bloke.
I just hope he doesn’t have us trying to play that boring Aussie style of play and realises that just will not work.
I feel we’ve hit a new low this year -he needs a massive spade to dig us out of a very big hole. We will have to see whether he can do it.
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| Put a jersey on him. He'd still be your best player.
Better yet, sign a few of his sons. They are very talented kids.
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| Quote ="roopy"Put a jersey on him. He'd still be your best player.
Better yet, sign a few of his sons. They are very talented kids.'"
He’s gping to be massively disappointed with our players when he finally sees them. He won’t have found much footage of them since we’ve barely been on tv the last two years.
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| Every game is filmed so if he so wished he could watch every game they have played this year
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| Quote ="djhudds"Every game is filmed so if he so wished he could watch every game they have played this year'"
Well i'm inclined to think jools is right because if he had seen our games he surely wouldn't have applied for the job, unless he see's it as a stepping stone to bigger things down the track, which to be fair is pretty much the same as most Aussie's.
On the other hand he may be full of confidence in his abilities as a coach and really believe he can do a job for us, If he's prone to smashing things up a bit , it at least shows he has some passion about him, which is definitely something we have been short on in recent years.
We need someone to take our players out of the comfort zone and instil some sort of urgency in them, I just hope he is the man to do that and i hope he has been given a free reign to do it and play the players he wants rather than the so called big names.
What we don't need is another two years of what we have just had, Rick stone was far from the worst coach we have had and credit to him he did keep us up in Super league aided and abetted by others ( mainly Brierley ) and he was desperately unlucky with the injury situation, At the end of the day he didn't take us forward ( whatever the reasons ) and he paid the price as coaches do.
This new guy to me has an even bigger job on his hands and to be honest no one can knock him until he has had a chance, He may not have been the coach we would have wanted or hoped for but he can't do any worse than most of what we have had, who knows he may just be another Tony Smith.
End of the day he deserves a fair chance from the fans and more importantly he needs to be left alone by the board to do as he sees fit, otherwise it will have just been a wasted exersize and more of the same old, same old.
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| Pretty sure he would have talked to Rick Stone.
He has been coaching Rick's son for 18 months and Rick has gone to the last few games and lives in the same town, so I imagine they have talked.
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| The new coach is a downgrade on your last one. A poor mans Rick Stone if you like.
Doubtless you'll be calling for his head before long as well.
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| Quote ="roopy"Put a jersey on him. He'd still be your best player.
Better yet, sign a few of his sons. They are very talented kids.'"
former hooker, like nathan brown .... might bring leeming and obrien on even more!
yeh he has two sons but they are staying in oz for now as like you say they have rugby careers
he has been told he has money to spend end of the season when players come out of contract here so i expect a few aussies coming in
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| Quote ="roopy"Pretty sure he would have talked to Rick Stone.
He has been coaching Rick's son for 18 months and Rick has gone to the last few games and lives in the same town, so I imagine they have talked.'"
says he has spoken to brown mostly and watched some games back with him etc
we certainly have something going on with newcastle knights!!! shame its not brisbane or north queensland instead
we used to have a good link up with west tigers... skandalis, hodgson, lolesi, whatuira spring to mind..
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| Quote ="jools"And the only thing worth noting on Wikipedia about his coaching is the fact he smashed a coaching booth and was suspended. Doesn’t fill me with hope.
Still I suppose he’s got nothing to lose. But I’m not sure he’s what we need.
Problem is we won’t know until it’s too late. We don’t have the luxury of time.
He’s got a massive mess to unpick, and no track record of doing so successfully.
He has no experience of the game in the UKand I bet also has very little knowledge of us as a team or our players. Poor bloke.
I just hope he doesn’t have us trying to play that boring Aussie style of play and realises that just will not work.
I feel we’ve hit a new low this year -he needs a massive spade to dig us out of a very big hole. We will have to see whether he can do it.'"
Saints fans knew nothing about Holbrook and he had never been in the UK either, but he has been a revelation for us, so don't be too negative yet!!
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| Quote ="JonB95"Saints fans knew nothing about Holbrook and he had never been in the UK either, but he has been a revelation for us, so don't be too negative yet!!'"
JonB95, some people thrive on negativity at our club. Good to hear he's got a bit of spike about him, a change from smashing cupboards to player's is just what we need at the moment. Bring him on.
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| I’m inclined to think that putting a fist through the odd window might not be such a bad thing at the Giants tight now.
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| Quote ="Steve May"I’m inclined to think that putting a fist through the odd window might not be such a bad thing at the Giants tight now.'"
I think putting the fist through one or two players might work better !
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| Got to wish the bloke all the best but he will struggle with squad quality and needs to bring players in Toronto will be a real danger in the middle 8s
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| Massive decision for the club this. Get it wrong and the probability is that we wont be in Super League next season. We all need to get behind the new coach and the players and hopefully get out of this mess.
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| Massive decision for the club this. Get it wrong and the probability is that we wont be in Super League next season. We all need to get behind the new coach and the players and hopefully get out of this mess.
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| Quote ="Costin"Massive decision for the club this. Get it wrong and the probability is that we wont be in Super League next season. We all need to get behind the new coach and the players and hopefully get out of this mess.'"
There will be more than Toronto who are capable of giving us a pounding in our present state. But i can't believe this guy is coming over here not knowing that, He has surely done his homework on S league, he wont just have looked at our games , He must think he can do the job or why bother coming.
I hope he's as hard as his rep seems to indicate, We might get to see who wants to play for us and who's here just for a wage, Any one playing League at Pro level deserves to be well paid but they also need to know it's not just a free ride, which is the impression you get from some of our players at times.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"There will be more than Toronto who are capable of giving us a pounding in our present state. But i can't believe this guy is coming over here not knowing that, He has surely done his homework on S league, he wont just have looked at our games , He must think he can do the job or why bother coming.
I hope he's as hard as his rep seems to indicate, We might get to see who wants to play for us and who's here just for a wage, Any one playing League at Pro level deserves to be well paid but they also need to know it's not just a free ride, which is the impression you get from some of our players at times.'" Spot on Jo this in my opinion has been a part of an underlying problem for the past few years.I certainly hope he has the b++s to sort some of the players out.It will not be easy but I wish him all the best.
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| yep we need to be getting behind him and the team right now, starting this friday with a winnable game against widnes who we have a decent record against , surely the players will want to give thorman a win in his last game in charge and also want to impress the new coach
then its onto the cup a fresh competition to get our teeth into! interesting few two weeks coming up could change our season with two wins
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"says he has spoken to brown mostly and watched some games back with him etc
we certainly have something going on with newcastle knights!!! shame its not brisbane or north queensland instead
we used to have a good link up with west tigers... skandalis, hodgson, lolesi, whatuira spring to mind..'" Woolford hasn't been in Newcastle long enough to have real links with local players.
Most of the "second tier" players he has recruited to fill out reserve grade have come from the Canberra area, where he has a lot of links.
If he goes on a recruiting spree from australia i'd expect most will come from Canberra. Canberra had a very strong under 20s side a few years ago - Zac Woolford was one of the standouts, and basically the leader on and off the field. You could do worse than picking up a few of those guys.
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| We could certainly use an on-field leader.
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