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| So, after another impressive display form the lad - as he had a bad game in the 1st team yet ?, is it time to consider him a permanent fixture in the team to help his progress rather than a bit part here and there as he has been upto now ? personally i think he should, we looked lots better with him at full back and smurph on the wing against Wigan and he's almost like having an extra half-back for us in attack.
He's 20 now i think and surely with the talent he's already shown he should be getting regular game time, especially as he's shown in the dozen or so games he has played that he's not afraid to take on the big boys and looks quite comfortable playing in Super League.
What's your thought on him?
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| as i said last night daz, he should be a regular in the 17 if not starting, at most clubs he would be a regular by now, but yet he's still a fringe player with us.
also as we said, because he can play various positions he is used as a utility player, for me though he should have the full back spot to lose now.
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| the positive from lastnight, needs a run at full back now
same team for leeds with maybe lawrence in for bailey.
wood could replace lunt/robbo too as they arent performing
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| As you said, never had a bad game. However he hasn't had more than 2 consecutive games in one position. He seems to get MOM then get dropped.
Anderson always seems to be looking for a way to play Broughton. Why? Is he on decent money, that needs justifying?
For me Connor should be 1st choice FB and Murph 1st choice winger.
Broughton has been given plenty of opportunities and not taken them I'm afraid.
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| to be fair to broughton, i don't think he's done much wrong, could maybe tighten up his defence, but we just haven't used him correctly IMO, give him the ball with space in front of him or a kick to chase down and he'll usually produce, he's not a battering ram like Jerry is so we need to use his assets better.
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| So he's good in open space???
So was dwayne chambers!
Gone are the days when all you need is speed to be a winger.
He's poor under the high ball and doesn't run it back with any conviction.
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| Connor needs to be in every week. He's shown he's got what it takes, we look a better side with him at FB and despite bullies like mcillorum trying to rattle him in games he's shown that he can stand up to them.
He still makes the odd error- but even old head hodgson and Mr claret and gold Reilly made mistakes!
He can't do any more to earn his place IMO- but we do have to be careful not to do a lomax on him. He's young and needs to be looked after.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"As you said, never had a bad game. However he hasn't had more than 2 consecutive games in one position. He seems to get MOM then get dropped.
Anderson always seems to be looking for a way to play Broughton. Why? Is he on decent money, that needs justifying?
For me Connor should be 1st choice FB and Murph 1st choice winger.
Broughton has been given plenty of opportunities and not taken them I'm afraid.'"
how is anderson looking for a way to play broughton? he was dropped lastnight?
they say a good winger has a good centre so maybe its wardle thats the problem for broughton , needs to be put in to space
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| Quote ="brearley84"how is anderson looking for a way to play broughton? he was dropped lastnight?
they say a good winger has a good centre so maybe its wardle thats the problem for broughton , needs to be put in to space'"
Warde had a good opportunity to put Broughton in the clear V Hull but decided to go it himself. The way he hits the ball and defends is more like a 2nd rower. If he adds the art of quick hands getting the ball to his winger he'll be a very good centre.
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| Quote ="brearley84"how is anderson looking for a way to play broughton? he was dropped lastnight?
Eventually.
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| Quote ="TBC"Warde had a good opportunity to put Broughton in the clear V Hull but decided to go it himself. The way he hits the ball and defends is more like a 2nd rower. If he adds the art of quick hands getting the ball to his winger he'll be a very good centre.'"
yes he does play like a 2nd rower, runs hard... lost the ball v wigan on first tackle which led to a try after we had soaked up pressure on our line
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"
well it was only one game into the season!
he was behind murphy on the wing many times last season too so i dont think anderson seems to be always looking to play him.
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| At full back Connor has the most potential out of him, grix and murphy!
Connor is making the odd mistake but these will only be ironed out by playing the game at the top level, he is a running full back who chimes into the line well.
Murphy has to be in the starting line up, he showed his quality against wigan, quality under the high ball, just reads the game so well and can cover 1 to 5 far too good to leave out.
So sorry grix and broughton but Connor and murphy offer to much to be replaced
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| He also got picked ahead of Murphy a fair few times when Murphy didn't put a foot wrong and was possibly our best player.
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| Quote ="FARTOWNFORLIFE"He also got picked ahead of Murphy a fair few times when Murphy didn't put a foot wrong and was possibly our best player.'"
was that when murphy had to go to full back or centre
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| Our back 3 would be Murphy, Connor and Jerry
Boughton is simply not being used to his best asset and Grix is not missed
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| just a thought. i was really disappointed with cudjoe and our right side defence as a whole against wigan . I'd be tempted to line up with
connor
jerry murphy wardle broughton as our back line.
On a separate note these last 2 games just shows the importance too our team that bruno brings. ok we no were not getting much in attack but 50+ tackles a game we miss
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| Quote ="nolano87"just a thought. i was really disappointed with cudjoe and our right side defence as a whole against wigan . I'd be tempted to line up with
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jerry murphy wardle broughton as our back line.
On a separate note these last 2 games just shows the importance too our team that bruno brings. ok we no were not getting much in attack but 50+ tackles a game we miss'"
like i have said previous is it wardle that is the problem for broughton?
yes maybe lawrence would have tackled bateman.
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| Quote ="brearley84"like i have said previous is it wardle that is the problem for broughton?
So, against Hull when Broughton let the ball go out of touch resulting in a Hull head and feed, that was wardles fault?
The fact that Broughton runs it back sideways and slow is wardles fault?
Broughton not being able to catch a high ball is Wardles fault?
Everybody saying that Broughton isn't being used correctly. As I said, gone are the days of wingers like offiah who got away with having only speed. You need so much more to play top flight RL.
Yes Wardle is a bit greedy these days and he does need to pass it more, however he is not to blame for Broughton not producing the goods.
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| The 3 main positives from weeks 1 and 2 have been Connor, Murphy and mullally.
Hope Paul Anderson is good to his word, and picks on form and not reputation.
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| Quote ="nolano87"just a thought. i was really disappointed with cudjoe and our right side defence as a whole against wigan . I'd be tempted to line up with
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jerry murphy wardle broughton as our back line.
On a separate note these last 2 games just shows the importance too our team that bruno brings. ok we no were not getting much in attack but 50+ tackles a game we miss'"
Yes Cudjoe is not putting his all into games, he didn`t last season, and has started the same this season. Probably let him play a couple of games at Oldham. I`d agree with your above backline.
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This is exactly why we must get Scott Grix back at fullback. Without Grix in the team there's no majority view on which single player is to blame for all the teams failings. Instead it's Ferres' fault or Leroy's fault or Koppy's fault or(<insert player name here's> fault.
So I start the campaign now to get Grix back at full back...alternatively, after only 2 games, there could just be less panic and less finger pointing and we could just wait a few more games so we can we get a realistic view of the team and the squad. Just a thought
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| when im at games it always seems to be cudjoe who gets the flack from alot of our fans when hes on the ball
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| Its not a case for of blaming people, but certain players are under performing.
And it's not just after 2 games, it's being going on for a while.
All good saying send cudjoe to Oldham, but who would come in for him without reshuffling the whole back line?
Let's replace a centre with a centre, winger with a winger etc.
If this means playing youngsters then so be it. Saints Wigan and wire have done it and they are all going ok.
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| We have had a problem for about a year and a half now getting good ball out to our right hand side. Madness as we have Leroy and Jerry there, but everything goes left through Brough and Ferres.
There was little point bringing in Jamie Ellis to take pressure off Danny Brough and then never giving him the ball. He has had very little given to him in two games so far, he has defended well but been given little opportunity in attack, which means Hughes, Leroy and Jerry get no quality ball.
Both hookers were poor against Hull, Robbo was much better against Wigan, but I can see Kyle wood getting a game soon if Lunt's form continues.
Main point though, sort out the balance of our play and allow the right side attack to thrive, that will stop the opposition focus on our left side and we will suddenly look the real deal.
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