19 yr old hooker from Bradford.
Cover for OB and Kruise

Not good enough for super league at moment, couldn’t get in Bradford team in league 1

was rumoured before by djhudds...

doesnt set the pulse racing!

wait and see i guess

paid a fee for him so must see something

Pity the giants couldn’t get a picture of him ina giants shirt before sending the publicity photos out !

Certainly one of the stand out hookers in the 19s comp. But you have to feel he cant have impressed much at Cas or he would have got a contract there.

He wasn’t a stand out in 19’s in fact as go as far as to say jack Flynn is better

Well you just can't beat a large chunk of optimism can you? At least let the players get through the door before writing them off.

Sorry we should just accept all players who sign as world beaters shouldn’t we, Walne, Roche all setting super league alight, sorry for wanting us to be better than what we already are

No we shouldn't just sign everyone willy nilly but we also shouldn't knock the lads that the management team see potential in either. This lad may not be a world class player at the moment but in time he might, with the right support, make the Giants 1st team and crowd pleaser. Not that any of that admiration will trickle down to this forum with only half a dozen room mongers in residence.

come on its the giants... they dont do marketing well.

lets hope they get the uate one right!

Our coach has been one of the best hookers in his time- has come over here and changed us around- but others think he’s made a mistake signing a booker.
You couldn’t make it uo.

Never said it was a mistake with the re signing of Farrell, signing Holmes and BUTTERWORTH just not sure on how it will help us compete for top 5 next year, questioning if it was a signing we needed doesn’t mean having a gonat him it’s an opinion and seen him play many times and don’t think he’s ready for super league so wonder what long term plan for him is

Jack Flynn is a fantastic young prospect. I’m looking forward to see him develop. But he’s behind where Butterworth was at his age. That’s not to say he won’t eventually be better with Woolford and Robbo coaching him.
Re Butterworth Clearly the professional coaches must see more in him than you do.

At same age as jack reiss was playing academy rugby for bulls, he’s one year older than him so I’m intrigued as to why you think at this stage last year reiss was so far ahead? He didn’t play a single first team game for bulls so that’s why i wonder why it’s perceived he’s gonna be ready for super league, he can’t play Academy and we won’t have a reserves

I seem to remember several of your fans being underwhelmed when you signed Adam Obrien which shows what you know really

O’Brien was playing regularly for you Butterworth has not

And you weren't impressed by his signing at the time. What's the point?

Me personally was happy enough with o’brien Has he had been playing regularly in the league below and had some experience, Butterworth had not and if he’s third hooker where’s he going to play? How’s he going to develop without playing? Send him on loan to Batley Like you did? He couldn’t get a game in league one so had to move to championship, don’t get why he didn’t play for you

The point is some of our fans just like a good moan-and complain about most things the club do, or don’t do. .

We needed a starting hooker with experience, we were already too young without a 17 yo starting hooker. Flanagan has more impact off bench for us. He's a good player who I expect will be loaned out by you guys for the season

Butterworth needs to be playing. He's got potential for sure but it won't be realised unless he gets a season long loan at a club that will play him every week. Do you lot dual reg with anyone?

Reiss has played first team for the Bulls last year. One game he played scrum half against Halifax and definitely stood out in that game. He played a few others at hooker and did well. He also had a good month on loan at Batley, which was a strange one with them obviously being a division higher. He should have played more this season as he needs to be playing. Kear obviously wasn't prepared to play him for his own reasons. I wish him well at Huddersfield and playing under Woolford should really help him

Edit just seen Bullseyes comment above and agree he needs a full season in a first team environment as it will bring him on no end for me.

i was happy when we signed o'brien... caught my eye before as seen him play, not seen butterworth.

first choice hooker is o'brien

second leeming

looks like cover will be butterworth for above both...thats if they dont go with clough!

It’s one of them we can’t afford to keep him on the contract level he deserves when he’s not a first team choice for us.

Loan him to a champ club for a season and you’ll have a ready made superleague player. He’s going to be good imo.

Are you getting rid of a hooker as Woolfords son is also signing for you?