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| What do people make of this signing, something that we needed, or just patching holes with patchy players who have been signed on too longer contract.
For me, it's a good signing and intent on going the right way
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| has this been confirmed i cant see anything if so its a good signing
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| The kind of centre I like.. but where does that leave our other centres. Maybe worth a shot in the second row... certainly wouldn't want him at half back.
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| That is another very long contract if correct,immediate destination more likely to be in the half back role ,next season loose forward
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| Centre is an area we need to strengthen- but I'd rather have wardle back....
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| When will he be available to play?
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| Better than average utility player. But 4 1/2 years someone needs to be shown the door
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| Only way we can compete for players with the big clubs is to offer longer than average contracts
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| Quote ="aliw2001"Only way we can compete for players with the big clubs is to offer longer than average contracts'"
You weren't competing with the big clubs' only rumoured to be, Wakefield have 5 centres better than him so why would we be interested, if the big clubs were competing for him one of them would have signed him.
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| not confirmed but looking likely
id like to see him at centre, has some size, speed and hard to stop near the try line
mamo
murphy
turner
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i like the look of that back line
brough and gaskell still first choice half backs but we know turner can play there too
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| Quote ="brearley84"not confirmed but looking likely
id like to see him at centre, has some size, speed and hard to stop near the try line
mamo
murphy
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i like the look of that back line
brough and gaskell still first choice half backs but we know turner can play there too'"
Think I would prefer:
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macintosh
turner
cudjoe
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| Now confirmed on club website, 3 1/2 year deal
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| Quote ="vastman"Well I certainly can't think of one I'd drop - however that may be because I've never heard of him. Think we are ok in the backs in all honesty.'"
never heard of him?
grand final winner for st helens in 2014 if that helps
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| Quote ="raceman"Think I would prefer:
mamo
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turner
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nah, mcintosh not ready yet, more a full back for me...been asked to play enough games already this season like mellor, no fault of theres mind with injuries, like stone says they need a break
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| 4 1/2 years!!! That's a long deal. You did the same with Gaskell on a six figure salary aswell.
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| Turner is a decent player but anyone thinking we have pulled off some sort of master stroke in the face of strong competition is just deluding themselves. We seem to be so desperate to get players we are ready to give them anything. We are loading the team up with average and less, Ferguson, Clough, Gaskell," Mellor potential under the right coach"
The problem is we are stuck with these players for a long time now so, even if we survive in S league we are going to be going forward with them for years, Is there going to be some transformation that takes place and changes us from what we are into a competing team.
Whoever makes these long team signings just keeps on doing the same thing, ( sometimes it costs a fortune to get rid of them when things go pear shaped ) We have a team who are in the comfort zone, with many players on long contracts no matter their form.
If he had been another Brough ( who we took a big gamble on ) due to his rep, I could understand it, Brough was a proven class player, who has proved himself to be a match winner on many occasions. Turner has been at at least 4 clubs ( nothing wrong with that ) but he has not risen to any great heights at any one of them, Indeed seems to have been a total failure in Oz.
I'm not knocking him before he has had a chance, because i think he is decent and certainly good enough for a team who play like we do. He may turn out to be a winner ( which would be nice ) but why not a 18 month contract and lets see if he is or not. No the system at Giants seems to be show people how desperate we are by giving big contracts and then praying.
True they may not come if we don't give them what they want, and that is easy to understand, We are a club with little prospects on or off the field, but isn't the saying on here always " if they don't want to pull the shirt on we don't want them ".
Until the whole attitude in and around the club changes we will always be getting the Average/ decent players at big money and contracts, many of who either just don't perform or just go backwards, leaving us stuck with them for a long time. It is IMO a very poor policy but one which we seem determined to stick with, I realize it can't be easy trying to recruit good players to a club with our style and reputation but the stuff we do doesn't sent out great messages.
But why do we never learn, We apparently moved Heaven and Earth to get Brierley and now he is gone, Why we ever wanted him in the first place is beyond me, We haven't played a style of football to suit him since i have been watching the Giants with the exception of the few years where we climbed out of the realms of mediocrity on the back of Browns work, So who signed him and why ? someone has been committing blunders for years and is still doing it.
I started the season thinking that S league survival was enough and it would be a season of rebuilding, I think we will survive via the playoff's but i hope we aren't just kitting ourselves up for the same stuggle for seasons to come .
I wish Turner well, He certainly won't lessen our team, He must have some ambition to have wanted to try his hand in Oz, doesn't sound like he got much chance, we shall see.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"Turner is a decent player but anyone thinking we have pulled off some sort of master stroke in the face of strong competition is just deluding themselves. We seem to be so desperate to get players we are ready to give them anything. We are loading the team up with average and less, Ferguson, Clough, Gaskell," Mellor potential under the right coach"
The problem is we are stuck with these players for a long time now so, even if we survive in S league we are going to be going forward with them for years, Is there going to be some transformation that takes place and changes us from what we are into a competing team.
Whoever makes these long team signings just keeps on doing the same thing, ( sometimes it costs a fortune to get rid of them when things go pear shaped ) We have a team who are in the comfort zone, with many players on long contracts no matter their form.
If he had been another Brough ( who we took a big gamble on ) due to his rep, I could understand it, Brough was a proven class player, who has proved himself to be a match winner on many occasions. Turner has been at at least 4 clubs ( nothing wrong with that ) but he has not risen to any great heights at any one of them, Indeed seems to have been a total failure in Oz.
I'm not knocking him before he has had a chance, because i think he is decent and certainly good enough for a team who play like we do. He may turn out to be a winner ( which would be nice ) but why not a 18 month contract and lets see if he is or not. No the system at Giants seems to be show people how desperate we are by giving big contracts and then praying.
True they may not come if we don't give them what they want, and that is easy to understand, We are a club with little prospects on or off the field, but isn't the saying on here always " if they don't want to pull the shirt on we don't want them ".
Until the whole attitude in and around the club changes we will always be getting the Average/ decent players at big money and contracts, many of who either just don't perform or just go backwards, leaving us stuck with them for a long time. It is IMO a very poor policy but one which we seem determined to stick with, I realize it can't be easy trying to recruit good players to a club with our style and reputation but the stuff we do doesn't sent out great messages.
But why do we never learn, We apparently moved Heaven and Earth to get Brierley and now he is gone, Why we ever wanted him in the first place is beyond me, We haven't played a style of football to suit him since i have been watching the Giants with the exception of the few years where we climbed out of the realms of mediocrity on the back of Browns work, So who signed him and why ? someone has been committing blunders for years and is still doing it.
I started the season thinking that S league survival was enough and it would be a season of rebuilding, I think we will survive via the playoff's but i hope we aren't just kitting ourselves up for the same stuggle for seasons to come .
I wish Turner well, He certainly won't lessen our team, He must have some ambition to have wanted to try his hand in Oz, doesn't sound like he got much chance, we shall see.'"
Disagree with you on Turners quality. When the Aussies signed him, they only sign quality not average players. If you watch NRL on TV you would see that the Canberra Raiders have top quality all through the team, so not getting in the starting line-up is no disgrace.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"Disagree with you on Turners quality. When the Aussies signed him, they only sign quality not average players. If you watch NRL on TV you would see that the Canberra Raiders have top quality all through the team, so not getting in the starting line-up is no disgrace.'"
No I know he never had a chance over there and i acknowledged that, Also i did say he is decent standard, Certainly up to Giants present standard, and that he obviously has ambitions by wanting to take a shot at the Aussies.
I am not for one moment suggesting he is a bad buy, He may prove to be a good one. I am questioning the policy of long term deals, most of who are just not of the standard to warrant them.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"Turner is a decent player but anyone thinking we have pulled off some sort of master stroke in the face of strong competition is just deluding themselves. We seem to be so desperate to get players we are ready to give them anything. We are loading the team up with average and less, Ferguson, Clough, Gaskell," Mellor potential under the right coach"
The problem is we are stuck with these players for a long time now so, even if we survive in S league we are going to be going forward with them for years, Is there going to be some transformation that takes place and changes us from what we are into a competing team.
Whoever makes these long team signings just keeps on doing the same thing, ( sometimes it costs a fortune to get rid of them when things go pear shaped ) We have a team who are in the comfort zone, with many players on long contracts no matter their form.
If he had been another Brough ( who we took a big gamble on ) due to his rep, I could understand it, Brough was a proven class player, who has proved himself to be a match winner on many occasions. Turner has been at at least 4 clubs ( nothing wrong with that ) but he has not risen to any great heights at any one of them, Indeed seems to have been a total failure in Oz.
I'm not knocking him before he has had a chance, because i think he is decent and certainly good enough for a team who play like we do. He may turn out to be a winner ( which would be nice ) but why not a 18 month contract and lets see if he is or not. No the system at Giants seems to be show people how desperate we are by giving big contracts and then praying.
True they may not come if we don't give them what they want, and that is easy to understand, We are a club with little prospects on or off the field, but isn't the saying on here always " if they don't want to pull the shirt on we don't want them ".
Until the whole attitude in and around the club changes we will always be getting the Average/ decent players at big money and contracts, many of who either just don't perform or just go backwards, leaving us stuck with them for a long time. It is IMO a very poor policy but one which we seem determined to stick with, I realize it can't be easy trying to recruit good players to a club with our style and reputation but the stuff we do doesn't sent out great messages.
But why do we never learn, We apparently moved Heaven and Earth to get Brierley and now he is gone, Why we ever wanted him in the first place is beyond me, We haven't played a style of football to suit him since i have been watching the Giants with the exception of the few years where we climbed out of the realms of mediocrity on the back of Browns work, So who signed him and why ? someone has been committing blunders for years and is still doing it.
I started the season thinking that S league survival was enough and it would be a season of rebuilding, I think we will survive via the playoff's but i hope we aren't just kitting ourselves up for the same stuggle for seasons to come .
I wish Turner well, He certainly won't lessen our team, He must have some ambition to have wanted to try his hand in Oz, doesn't sound like he got much chance, we shall see.'"
Ferguson, Clough, Gaskell, Smith and Ormsby are bang average players and we should be looking to offload some of them at season end.
Mellor is going to be an excellent 2nd rower. 22 came 2 weeks before season started and played centre which is a tough position at SL level... he's improving all the time. I think he will improve immensely next season training for the 1 position.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Ferguson, Clough, Gaskell, Smith and Ormsby are bang average players and we should be looking to offload some of them at season end.
Mellor is going to be an excellent 2nd rower. 22 came 2 weeks before season started and played centre which is a tough position at SL level... he's improving all the time. I think he will improve immensely next season training for the 1 position.'"
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| Quote ="Binosh"4 1/2 years!!! That's a long deal. You did the same with Gaskell on a six figure salary aswell.'"
3 and half years
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| greg eden and burgess didnt do much in their stints in the nrl but still come back to sl and proved a hit
a stint abroad for a rugby league player can make them a whole lot better, the coaching and playing/training with top players improves you
not sure yet on turners best position but right now i feel we need a centre so put him there
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